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its obvious that the majority of people here have very little money

and have never really gambled

no harm in that at all of course, a $10 bet to some people maybe a lot of money

but i think theres a severe lack of understanding how money works.


you try to attack how I play roulette, yet no-one bothers to show how they rate horses or any other financial product in the world- that Im also willing to discuss.

then you say im wrong ? lol

you guys can stick to your $10 bets and Ill call it a day.

Horses and finances are not random.

Roulette is random.

You cannot evaluate or rate something that is random.

Simple as that.
 

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Heat, how was you big Atlantic City trip? Didn't go? Couldn't get a room? Went for the day (driving from Ohio)?:bunnies: Didn't have any money?
 

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Heat, how was you big Atlantic City trip? Didn't go? Couldn't get a room? Went for the day (driving from Ohio)?:bunnies: Didn't have any money?

If you must know, I don't use credit cards (want to avoid debt and the trouble involved.) And to rent a car using a debit card you can't leave the state. I did not want to drive my car that far and put the miles on it. I just drove up to Detroit instead. I took their money instead of AC's money, that is all.
 

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I am surprised you aren't black listed everywhere heatohio. You must wear those groucho glasses
 

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Funny how you ignored this math, please dont make me repeat myself. You EV using your system and your math you are getting back 3.81 for every 4 you bet:

If you place a 5, 6, 8, and 9 you have 18 ways of rolling ONE of those numbers. There are 6 ways to roll a 7. So your odds of getting ONE of those numbers before you get a 7 are 3-1 in your favor.

Heres where your moron train jumps the tracks.

So for every 4 rolls, you will get one of your numbers 3 times and the 7 will come once.

The one time the seven comes you will lose 4 bets (call them units) so you are -4 units.

The three times you get ONE of your numbers you will be paid an average of 1.27-1 for a total of 3.81 units.

So, using your system, and using YOUR MATH, for every 4 rolls of the dice you will win 3.81 units and you will lose 4 units. That makes you down .19 units for every 4 rolls of the dice.

THERES YOUR MATH. Now tell me how in the hell you can argue that?<!-- / message -->


You don't lose 4 units, you lose a slight amount over 3 units. Which I do acknowledge is the house "edge", basically $2 when betting $44 inside. The thing is that when you don't leave your money on for all the rolls you are eliminating a lot of the chances at hitting that 7. It does come out on the first or second roll, but not near as much as you may think. The house may have the, ever so slight, edge when it comes down to the basic math. But in reality it is very difficult to hit 7 after 7 your first couple of rolls. It just does not happen. Once in three years has it really happened. At the Stratosphere someone 7nd out three times in a row. I got up and left that with money still in hand, money that I used to make up for that and then some.
 

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You don't lose 4 units, you lose a slight amount over 3 units. Which I do acknowledge is the house "edge", basically $2 when betting $44 inside. The thing is that when you don't leave your money on for all the rolls you are eliminating a lot of the chances at hitting that 7. It does come out on the first or second roll, but not near as much as you may think. The house may have the, ever so slight, edge when it comes down to the basic math. But in reality it is very difficult to hit 7 after 7 your first couple of rolls. It just does not happen. Once in three years has it really happened. At the Stratosphere someone 7nd out three times in a row. I got up and left that with money still in hand, money that I used to make up for that and then some.
Whether it's the first roll, second roll, third roll, fourth roll, or 200th roll, the odds of rolling a 7 are exactly the same every time. Your idea that it happens less likely on the first or second roll is silly. It's all in your head and there's no truth to it.
 

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I am surprised you aren't black listed everywhere heatohio. You must wear those groucho glasses

I'm surprised that your ass has not been knocked the fuck out many times. You either stay a good boy when you are in front of people or you have zero teeth from your smart ass mouth. Or maybe you grew up in a little pansy ass town that everyone is as big as a pus*y as you are. Bottom line is that you would never man up face to face with someone. You bitches can make fun of me all you want. I'm not a talker, I act upon my thoughts. Men don't say what they can't back up, you had better be man enough to back up these words.
 

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Whether it's the first roll, second roll, third roll, fourth roll, or 200th roll, the odds of rolling a 7 are exactly the same every time. Your idea that it happens less likely on the first or second roll is silly. It's all in your head and there's no truth to it.

I never said that it is less likely, it just does not happen. You have a 3-1 chance at hitting one of your numbers and you most likely do. The more and more you leave your money on and wait for the 7 to come the more you leave yourself open to lose.
 

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He can't understand decimals, vanzack.

Heatohio, just look at it this way.

You put 22 dollars on those four numbers. 3 times out of 4 you win 7 dollars. One time out of 4 you lose 22 dollars. Every 4 rolls, you lose a dollar. So, every roll in which there is an outcome decided, you can expect to lose 25 cents. Have fun trying to dispute that.
I've proven here you can't win. Every 4 rolls, you lose 1 dollar. Every roll you can expect to lose 25 cents. That is exactly the way that you play, and there is no disputing the facts.
 

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I'm surprised that your ass has not been knocked the fuck out many times. You either stay a good boy when you are in front of people or you have zero teeth from your smart ass mouth. Or maybe you grew up in a little pansy ass town that everyone is as big as a pus*y as you are. Bottom line is that you would never man up face to face with someone. You bitches can make fun of me all you want. I'm not a talker, I act upon my thoughts. Men don't say what they can't back up, you had better be man enough to back up these words.


back up what words? You are the one trying to challenge anyone and everyone. You have some serious issues
 

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I've proven here you can't win. Every 4 rolls, you lose 1 dollar. Every roll you can expect to lose 25 cents. That is exactly the way that you play, and there is no disputing the facts.

My point is that those numbers are not absolute. I'm not doubting that the show on the travel channel that you watched was correct about the technical odds. I'm doubting the real world value of those numbers. I'm sorry that it is hard for me to believe those are exact numbers when I have been a non stop winner. Trust me, I was a doubter for about the first year. I won, chalked it up to luck. Then I made a killing in Vegas, now I am going on a nice streak. Then I started making it a weekly income, now I'm taking notice. Fast foward 3 years later and I'm still winning. I went to Detroit waiting for you guys to prove me wrong. I stepped up to the table telling myself that this is a good test. I won my money as usual. Play this way, you will win. Just remember to call off after 2 rolls til the next point. Go ahead and thank me later for the money that you make. Come back and tell me if you win or lose. Don't get greedy though, settle for 15% or so of your money at each table. Go to a few casinos and make yourself some cash. I don't even expect a % of it.
 

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back up what words? You are the one trying to challenge anyone and everyone. You have some serious issues


You are quick to call me a moron and talk all sorts of shit to me. Back up those fucking words. No issues here, I just don't have the pus*y issue to deal with you like asses. Where I come from if you talk like that to someone they will bust you in the fucking face.
 

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I am not scared of an internet bully. Swing away and see what happens
 

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My point is that those numbers are not absolute. I'm not doubting that the show on the travel channel that you watched was correct about the technical odds. I'm doubting the real world value of those numbers. I'm sorry that it is hard for me to believe those are exact numbers when I have been a non stop winner. Trust me, I was a doubter for about the first year. I won, chalked it up to luck. Then I made a killing in Vegas, now I am going on a nice streak. Then I started making it a weekly income, now I'm taking notice. Fast foward 3 years later and I'm still winning. I went to Detroit waiting for you guys to prove me wrong. I stepped up to the table telling myself that this is a good test. I won my money as usual. Play this way, you will win. Just remember to call off after 2 rolls til the next point. Go ahead and thank me later for the money that you make. Come back and tell me if you win or lose. Don't get greedy though, settle for 15% or so of your money at each table. Go to a few casinos and make yourself some cash. I don't even expect a % of it.
The numbers aren't absolute? That's funny. You told me exactly how you play. I laid out the facts for you telling you exactly why you can't win, which is what you asked for. Sorry that you won't accept facts. There is no helping people like you.
 

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The numbers aren't absolute? That's funny. You told me exactly how you play. I laid out the facts for you telling you exactly why you can't win, which is what you asked for. Sorry that you won't accept facts. There is no helping people like you.


No, the numbers are not absolute. The casinos prove that day in and day out when the house edge is not what people lose. Please go out and play this way. You live in Vegas, right? Go right ahead and prove yourself wrong. You are in a win win situation. Either you win some money or you find out that my way is not a winner. I would wish you luck but you won't need it.
 

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My point is that those numbers are not absolute. I'm not doubting that the show on the travel channel that you watched was correct about the technical odds. I'm doubting the real world value of those numbers. I'm sorry that it is hard for me to believe those are exact numbers when I have been a non stop winner. Trust me, I was a doubter for about the first year. I won, chalked it up to luck. Then I made a killing in Vegas, now I am going on a nice streak. Then I started making it a weekly income, now I'm taking notice. Fast foward 3 years later and I'm still winning. I went to Detroit waiting for you guys to prove me wrong. I stepped up to the table telling myself that this is a good test. I won my money as usual. Play this way, you will win. Just remember to call off after 2 rolls til the next point. Go ahead and thank me later for the money that you make. Come back and tell me if you win or lose. Don't get greedy though, settle for 15% or so of your money at each table. Go to a few casinos and make yourself some cash. I don't even expect a % of it.
Just because I'm a patient guy, I'll walk you through it one more time. Follow closely.

You claim that you can win at craps because 18 times you win, and only 6 times you lose. 75% of the time, you win 7 dollars. 25% of the time, you lose 22 dollars. So in 4 rolls, you've won 21 dollars and lost 22 dollars. Follow?

The reason that you've won is because you've been lucky. You've been on the positive side of variance, thus far. Understand?
 

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