LeBron James is THE best player in the NBA

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kobefan08 said:
6. Kobe has 3 rings, Lebron has none... so until Lebron can have more rings than kobe, he hasnt proved anything, just like how people will not admit kobe is better than Jordan until Kobe has at least 6 rings.

Stop living in the past. LeBron was not even around when Kobe won those championships. Live in the now, LBJ has a 3-2 lead on the Pistons, and Kobe has gone fishin'. Stop riding Kobe's dick so hard, hes good, but compare LeBron's 3rd season to Kobe's. You CAN'T
 

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Kobe even was said that he is a witness like we all are!

But when kobe won those championships he was playing along side the greatest center of all time!

But kobe is the best player now... but in 2-3 years there wont be an arguement Lebron will be the best
 

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Let's Hug It Out said:
BUT LEBRONS NOT A RAPIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

buddy it was never proven that kobe raped ANYONE so u have no grounds to say that... besides this is a basketball conversation, if you want to make it personal then you are just admitting u hate kobe because of personal reasons and that it has nothing to do with his basketball skills
 

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gynecologist said:
LeBron is definitely on his way to being the one of the
top 3 players of all time.

if he gets there, who are your other two, if you don't mind me askin'??
 

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Dominic10464 said:
Stop living in the past. LeBron was not even around when Kobe won those championships. Live in the now, LBJ has a 3-2 lead on the Pistons, and Kobe has gone fishin'. Stop riding Kobe's dick so hard, hes good, but compare LeBron's 3rd season to Kobe's. You CAN'T

That is EXACTLY the point... we are comparing the best player in the nba RIGHT NOW.. if you want to bring up kobe's 3rd season you are right there is no comparison, but there are valid reasons

1. This just shows that Lebron posseses more talent then kobe.. He was born with this shit while Kobe worked from what he was 3rd season TO WHAT HE IS NOW... that is what defines a superstar, not just talent... why do people hate Vince? because he has a shitload of talent but he doesnt work hard! Im not saying Lebron doesnt work hard but Im saying he doesnt have to work NEARLY as hard as kobe does to get to this point because he is born with this shit.. They even asked kobe on the TNT halftime show yesterday "what is the difference between you and Lebron @ 21?" and Kobe said just look at Lebron, this guy is a physical monster at 21 while kobe had to train like mad to get as ripped as he is.. Lebron was ripped coming out of high school and he barely had to work for shit

2. Since Lebron came into the league he was thrust into the role of SAVIOUR for the cavs.. when Kobe came into the league he had the ability to do that, but he only played 15 mpg because they had Shaq.. If Kobe was given the 40 mpg on his own team coming out of high school I can almost gaurentee you he would've averaged at least 20ppg as a rookie and his numbers would've been just as big
 

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oldirtyku said:
This will all be dropped when Detroit wins the next 2.

I dont think so because they will continue this "Lebron is king of the world" rant forever...
 

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easier to market one guy than a whole team. ask any TV exec. it is still my opinion that is why the Wizards are gone. TV pays the bills. and while i am at it, these are fundamentally the worst playoffs that i have seen and i have followed the NBA over 40 seasons. they should take that zone defense crap and bury it. i have never seen so many guys drive the hoop from 20 feet and get to the basket untouched as i have seen in the last week. i thought zones were to prevent this but all it has done is reduce the game to one on ones and "two man game"! in other words, "street ball"
 

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Wizards defense is swiss cheese. There D could make Chuky Atkins look like a clutch player.
 

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oldirtyku said:
Wizards defense is swiss cheese. There D could make Chuky Atkins look like a clutch player.

EXACTLY...thats why I was saying Lebron's "CLUTCH" baskets really had more to do with washington's defensive breakdowns then Lebron's "clutch ability"..Nobody can have the balls to say kobe isnt clutch no matter how much you hate him... If any Lebron fan even has the balls to say Lebron is more clutch than kobe then they are really admitting they only started watching the NBA yesterday
 

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Kobe is 2nd most hated player in all of sports right after Bonds so getting anyone to admit he is best is tough.

Wizards need to make a trade for a mean ass post player and they would be a top 3 seed. Watched around 55 wiz games this year and can tell everyone here that they play 0 defense.
 

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I used to dislike Kobe quite a bit. But his total awesomeness made me a fan.

Maybe it was the afro that made me dislike him. I thought he looked like a punk when he had that.

I dont think Lebron can drop peoples jaw like Kobe. Not yet anyways.
 

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TerrelOwens said:
Kobe even was said that he is a witness like we all are!

But when kobe won those championships he was playing along side the greatest center of all time!

Shaq, the greatest center of all time??? you cant say that without giving consideration to kareem and wilt seriously......and the way the man shoots free throws is fricken disgusting........sure he is the most dominant center of our time but he is not the greatest.......i would say there are 4 centers better than him........1- Wilt, 2-Kareem, 3- Russell, 4-Olajuwon, 5-Oneal
 

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RobFunk said:
I used to dislike Kobe quite a bit. But his total awesomeness made me a fan.

Maybe it was the afro that made me dislike him. I thought he looked like a punk when he had that.

I dont think Lebron can drop peoples jaw like Kobe. Not yet anyways.

nice... just when I thought this whole forum was pro-lebron and pro-wade, some support!
 

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Dominic10464 said:
Stop living in the past. LeBron was not even around when Kobe won those championships. Live in the now, LBJ has a 3-2 lead on the Pistons, and Kobe has gone fishin'. Stop riding Kobe's dick so hard, hes good, but compare LeBron's 3rd season to Kobe's. You CAN'T

This is hilarious........the only reason why we are talking about lebron here is because he is still in the playoffs.......the only reason why hes still in the playoffs is because of damon jones shot that sealed the series for CLE........also we are not living in the past, i dont know if you were paying attention to the conversation but we are talking about who is better NOW....at this present time........Kobe has gone fishing because he has KWAME BROWN on his team.........can you honestly tell me that if cleveland had KWAME BROWN on their team that they would still be here........HELL NO......Lebron is a freak of nature and when he learns to play defense as hard as he plays offense the man will be unstoppable.........until then you cannot compare him to the likes of jordan or kobe
 

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Shaq, the greatest center of all time??? you cant say that without giving consideration to kareem and wilt seriously......and the way the man shoots free throws is fricken disgusting........sure he is the most dominant center of our time but he is not the greatest.......i would say there are 4 centers better than him........1- Wilt, 2-Kareem, 3- Russell, 4-Olajuwon, 5-Oneal
Not a bad list. I would say Shaq is better than Olajuwon though.
 

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RobFunk said:
Not a bad list. I would say Shaq is better than Olajuwon though.

to me.....Olajuwon was better because he was clutch......he was a better passer as well as a better free throw shooter......he had a silky smooth touch which made for a beautiful looking hook shot.....shaq's hook looks like he's just trying to hit rim.........olajuwon's post moves are second to none.....if you have ever watched one of his games during his 2 championship seasons, you would see that he was as crafty as steve nash but at the center position........his moves are mimicked to this day and should be......anyone who plays the post should watch tapes of his games.........but the bottom line.........shaq cant shoot free throws
 

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RiceCooker said:
This is hilarious........the only reason why we are talking about lebron here is because he is still in the playoffs.......the only reason why hes still in the playoffs is because of damon jones shot that sealed the series for CLE........also we are not living in the past, i dont know if you were paying attention to the conversation but we are talking about who is better NOW....at this present time........Kobe has gone fishing because he has KWAME BROWN on his team.........can you honestly tell me that if cleveland had KWAME BROWN on their team that they would still be here........HELL NO......Lebron is a freak of nature and when he learns to play defense as hard as he plays offense the man will be unstoppable.........until then you cannot compare him to the likes of jordan or kobe

well said
 

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Everyone keeps saying Lebron plays with a former all-star in Ilgauskus. Hell, he doesn't even play at the end of the game any more, Varajeo does.
Lamar Odom is the best player on Cleveland/LA not named Kobe or Lebron.

I've always been a defensive-minded person myself, but it's hard to buy that Lebron isn't the best player because defense wins championships.
If all teams that lead their series 3-2 advance (which happens 84% of the time), look at the teams that would remain - Miami, Cleveland, Dallas, and Phoenix - a couple decent defensive teams, one terrible defensive team, but all good offensive teams.
 

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