Never said Zorbrist sucks dude.
Card lineup is not better than Phils top to bottom, if we were just talking about 3-4 in the order, yeah, it doesn't get much better than Pujols/Holliday, but we are talking 1-6, and nobody can compare to the Philly 1-6 hitters.
Nobody!
Carp/Wainwright edges out Lee/Hamels, I'll give you that, but Lee can match zeros with Carp on any given night.
When Hamels is on, he is more than capable of striking out 13 going eight innings.
It's not like he hasn't done that before.
Card lineup is not better than Phils top to bottom, if we were just talking about 3-4 in the order, yeah, it doesn't get much better than Pujols/Holliday, but we are talking 1-6, and nobody can compare to the Philly 1-6 hitters.
Nobody!
Carp/Wainwright edges out Lee/Hamels, I'll give you that, but Lee can match zeros with Carp on any given night.
When Hamels is on, he is more than capable of striking out 13 going eight innings.
It's not like he hasn't done that before.
Hamels isn't worthy of sniffing Wainwright's jock this season. I love it that nobody is talking about Piniero still.
With the roster changes, I don't know how anybody could say that the Phils are a definite favorite over the Cards. Looks PK at best to me. But the Cards were still 6-1 last week, and the Phillies were +250. Where is the value? It's on the Cardinals.
Try to spin what, dude?
I never mentioned Zorbrist to begin with.
You came out of left field with that name.
My original point was Cards did well picking up Holliday to protect Pujols in the order, but Lee was the acquistion that will put Phil back in the World Series.
How did Zorbrist enter this conversation?
Where did I say he sucked?
He doesn't even belong in a Card/Phil conversation, I have no idea why you even introcued him into this conversation. He's in the AL playing for the Rays.
I'll say it one more time, but it's off topic to this conversation, Zorbrist was/is probably the best bench role player in both leagues, he is doing well for himself now that he was forced into the daily regular lineup, he isn't the .249 lifetime hitter that he is, but he wasn't the .316 hitter he was two months ago, he is more that likely inbetween that.
If played every day, he'll give you .275-20-75 (something like that) but he gets on base, so his OBA should be .355 or maybe a tad higher.
He's a nice player, never said he sucked.
As an everyday player, I indeed thought Zorbrist would struggle a bit, (struggling is not sucking) coming off the bench and doing that super-sub thing that he did (he was the best in the league at that) he could hit .300, but I thought he'd struggle against everyday righties, so far he's holding his own batting .272.
Cards at 6-1 has a lot of value, hope you cash that since I have not monetary interest in the NL.
It should be Cards v. Phils, LAD has to be considered also, but I don't think the everyday lineup is good enough.
Now watch, some Dodger fan is going to jump ugly on me, and I am going to have to defend this post seven times.
lol
Cards at 6-1 has a lot of value, hope you cash that since I have not monetary interest in the NL.
It should be Cards v. Phils, LAD has to be considered also, but I don't think the everyday lineup is good enough.
Now watch, some Dodger fan is going to jump ugly on me, and I am going to have to defend this post seven times.
lol
I think Zobrist's days as a utility player are over. He's been batting cleanup for the past month, and he's too good of a player not to play everyday. It will be interesting to see what the Rays do next season. They have an option on Iwamura for like $4.75 mil or something. I don't think Zobrist will be eligible for arbitration until 2011. Will they just let Iwamura go?
I really think everything is lining up for a Phils-Cards NLCS. It will be one heckuva series if it happens. I think it's clear that they are the two best teams in the NL. But as we all know, that's why they play the games.
hno:
I think its obvious to all Vikings, that those of us that felt the Cubs would come on strong were 100% wrong....
The team has not played up to potential, they dont hit at key times, they give up key hits at wrong time, the closers have struggled......all the while, the Cards have exceeded expectations and made the right moves at the deadline to shore up the division.....
I dont think any of us would be afraid to admit, we were simply wrong...
I certainly was
The team has not played up to potential, they dont hit at key times, they give up key hits at wrong time, the closers have struggled......all the while, the Cards have exceeded expectations and made the right moves at the deadline to shore up the division.....
I dont think any of us would be afraid to admit, we were simply wrong...
I certainly was
