Job Offer in San Antonio - Help

[HarryCaray]

To add, I couldn't walk out knowing I have the chance to own something. That's the biggest reward IMO, and where the real answer lies. Sounds like the difference of making a good salary and being well-off and set for life. What are the chances of that happening though, and the risk it doesn't just seems minimal with how easy you can always land another job that pays better (by your own admission).

I'd take a good pay cut to work from home, and I know a lot of others that would. Those that are cut out for it that I know (you seem to be as well) say no way in hell would they go back to a modern office job after their work from home, not even for double salary...

The ownership deal is a carrot they are trying to dangle to get away with underpaying their most valuable employees. By their own admission there is no plan or timeline. It could happen in 3 years, 20 years, or never.

I am pressing for more solidity to that in order to decide to stay, but right now it's too nebulous to be a major decision factor.

 

[HarryCaray]

So the 15% increase wouldn't cover boarding the dogs

If they don't make a concession then I would estimate the annual boarding costs and counter, asking that it be added to my base.

 

[MattyMatt]

The ownership deal is a carrot they are trying to dangle to get away with underpaying their most valuable employees. By their own admission there is no plan or timeline. It could happen in 3 years, 20 years, or never.

I am pressing for more solidity to that in order to decide to stay, but right now it's too nebulous to be a major decision factor.

Understandable...

no no way could I give up a stay at home job either. I've been hoping for one for 10+ years now, no dice...

 

[HarryCaray]

Understandable...

no no way could I give up a stay at home job either. I've been hoping for one for 10+ years now, no dice...

What are your skills? Can you write code? We're usually hiring programmers.

 

[HarryCaray]

So things are getting interesting.

I countered to Petco for an additional 4% on the base and 15% on the signing bonus, and they accepted, and a new offer letter was issued today.

While they were working on the new offer letter I got the phone call and hard sell from current employer.

So I'm managing a MAJOR project, has been ongoing for almost 2 years now. Slated completion/rollout September of this year. He acknowledged I am currently capped on base, but offered me 30k cash (on top of base) to stay until September.

Decision just keeps getting tougher and tougher. Ideally I would take the 30k, stay until September, roll out this project, and then reopen talks with Petco. Not sure if the bridge will be burned though after I countered and they worked for the approval to accept it.

Fuck

 

[ML Dog]

For the numerous folks here that live in Texas, or just anyone who wants to chime in with advice, I'm listening.

Here's the scenario. In my current situation I work from home 50%, travel 25%, and commute to Tuscaloosa office 25% (50 mile drive).

Big fish in a small pond. Bad part about that is there is not much opportunity for upward mobility. However, it is a private LLC and there is talk of the owner ESOP'ing it down the road, and I would be in line for a sizable ownership stake if that happened.

I love my job and I'm great at it.

I was head-hunted by an old boss who left the company 3 years ago. They flew me down to San Antonio last week and I got an offer this week. It's a roughly 15% pay increase with a nice sign-on bonus. Plus no state taxes. And their 401k match is 50% vs my current employers 25%.

I would be working from the office full time, and it would suck to give up all the flexibility I have currently to work from home. Especially with all the Cubs day games.

One of the big detractors to taking this offer is, in my visits to San Antonio I really haven't liked the city. It's a hot and flat concrete jungle compared to Birmingham. I love the trees and hills where I live. I love the shopping and dining where I live. I have never felt "at home" in San Antonio.

Anyone in the San Antonio area that can put my mind at ease that this is a good place to live?

Based upon the above alone my feeling is that Pros and Cons weighed, you should not leave where you are, what you have...for this opportunity at this time.

 

[sharky99]

As long a you network and market yourself well, opportunities will continue to present themselves moving forward. Executives and owners across different industries over time have told me multiple times the hardest thing for them in their positions is to manage people. It is difficult to find trustworthy, reliable, performance driven people they can count on over time. Those people are in high demand and in order to keep them they have to keep them happy in many ways because competitors and other industries try to lure them away. Offers will be there within reasonable timelines so doing what is best for you now or in the near future is the best recipe in my opinion.

 

[AlwayzRight]

Take the job HC

 

[HarryCaray]

Take the job HC

Did you read post 125?

 

[MattyMatt]

Did you read post 125?

I did.

Stay put, as most have stated in the thread, with sharky nailing it down with his last post...

 

[MattyMatt]

What are your skills? Can you write code? We're usually hiring programmers.

Besides a simple website, No, however I know I have the math and critical thinking skills to easily learn, so if this is what it takes to secure a stay at home position, I'm roll ready, so what does it take to solidify an entry level job, and where should I start? I've looked into a few things the last couple of days, and don't see there being a problem if I put the time in, which I'm about to have lot of, it's just what to learn first and where to start...

 

[pocketrockets]

Besides a simple website, No, however I know I have the math and critical thinking skills to easily learn, so if this is what it takes to secure a stay at home position, I'm roll ready, so what does it take to solidify an entry level job, and where should I start? I've looked into a few things the last couple of days, and don't see there being a problem if I put the time in, which I'm about to have lot of, it's just what to learn first and where to start...

Harry, Im really interested in this as well, I studied programming in college but dropped out. Seriously considering studying online asap.

 

[HarryCaray]

Besides a simple website, No, however I know I have the math and critical thinking skills to easily learn, so if this is what it takes to secure a stay at home position, I'm roll ready, so what does it take to solidify an entry level job, and where should I start? I've looked into a few things the last couple of days, and don't see there being a problem if I put the time in, which I'm about to have lot of, it's just what to learn first and where to start...

Harry, Im really interested in this as well, I studied programming in college but dropped out. Seriously considering studying online asap.

I could only speak to what specific languages would be most likely to land you a job working for my company. As long as you understand that if I stay, you'd be working for me...mwahahahahahaha. Seriously though, either way, these skills are highly marketable anywhere.

Asp.Net MVC5
C#
Javascript/AJAX/JSON
Ruby/Ruby on Rails
Angular JS
HTML5
Python and php would nice to have if job searching, but we don't use either

Cross-platform mobile app development is the skill to have right now. I lean towards RubyMotion as the preferred method for this, mostly because I like Ruby.

 

[CHOPTALK]

So things are getting interesting.

I countered to Petco for an additional 4% on the base and 15% on the signing bonus, and they accepted, and a new offer letter was issued today.

While they were working on the new offer letter I got the phone call and hard sell from current employer.

So I'm managing a MAJOR project, has been ongoing for almost 2 years now. Slated completion/rollout September of this year. He acknowledged I am currently capped on base, but offered me 30k cash (on top of base) to stay until September.

Decision just keeps getting tougher and tougher. Ideally I would take the 30k, stay until September, roll out this project, and then reopen talks with Petco. Not sure if the bridge will be burned though after I countered and they worked for the approval to accept it.

Fuck

Man.
Ideally the best thing would be if you could workout getting the 30k and then moving on September. If you tight enough with your old boss that works at Petco maybe you can pull that off .

 

[festeringZit]

I could only speak to what specific languages would be most likely to land you a job working for my company. As long as you understand that if I stay, you'd be working for me...mwahahahahahaha. Seriously though, either way, these skills are highly marketable anywhere.

Asp.Net MVC5
C#
Javascript/AJAX/JSON
Ruby/Ruby on Rails
Angular JS
HTML5
Python and php would nice to have if job searching, but we don't use either

Cross-platform mobile app development is the skill to have right now. I lean towards RubyMotion as the preferred method for this, mostly because I like Ruby.

Speaking from someone with a Master's Degree in Computer Science, and 25+ years of experience, I think it's pretty funny that people think
they can become proficient in this area by hacking away at it, like a hobby.

 

[HarryCaray]

Speaking from someone with a Master's Degree in Computer Science, and 25+ years of experience, I think it's pretty funny that people think
they can become proficient in this area by hacking away at it, like a hobby.

Idk, you gotta start somewhere. I was out of school with a master's in engineering before I started to teach myself to code. I eventually learned a TON through trial and error and self-teaching before going back to pursue a 2nd master's in computer science.

With some people it just clicks and they can take the ball and run with it, given the right amount of drive and support. I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to pick these skills up just because they haven't dedicated their entire education or career to it up to this point.

 

[HarryCaray]

Man.
Ideally the best thing would be if you could workout getting the 30k and then moving on September. If you tight enough with your old boss that works at Petco maybe you can pull that off .

Yeah that is ideal world. To put Petco off for 5 months just to finish this project and collect the bonus.

But if I counter and they revise their offer and then I turn it down anyway, the bridge is badly damaged if not burnt. They probably won't wanna fuck with me after that.

 

[HarryCaray]

Speaking from someone with a Master's Degree in Computer Science, and 25+ years of experience, I think it's pretty funny that people think
they can become proficient in this area by hacking away at it, like a hobby.

Idk, you gotta start somewhere. I was out of school with a master's in engineering before I started to teach myself to code. I eventually learned a TON through trial and error and self-teaching before going back to pursue a 2nd master's in computer science.

With some people it just clicks and they can take the ball and run with it, given the right amount of drive and support. I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to pick these skills up just because they haven't dedicated their entire education or career to it up to this point.

I will also say that developing native apps in Java or Objective-C is far more difficult, and requires a deeper understanding.

Ruby and Python are both so readable and simple to write, I think anyone with a knack for programming can pick them up.

Python is my favorite language to write in, but I've been learning more and more Ruby lately.

 

[MattyMatt]

Speaking from someone with a Master's Degree in Computer Science, and 25+ years of experience, I think it's pretty funny that people think
they can become proficient in this area by hacking away at it, like a hobby.

you started from somewhere, didn't you? Master's degree, aye, glad you got one, but I meet people on the daily with them that don't know shit. "A Master's Degree doesn't mean you know shit about business!" -Rooster McConaughey

no one said anything about a hobby, it's dedication to learning a change of careers. I will never talk someone down who wants to learn...

Idk, you gotta start somewhere. I was out of school with a master's in engineering before I started to teach myself to code. I eventually learned a TON through trial and error and self-teaching before going back to pursue a 2nd master's in computer science.

With some people it just clicks and they can take the ball and run with it, given the right amount of drive and support. I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to pick these skills up just because they haven't dedicated their entire education or career to it up to this point.

Thank you. My point exactly...

 

[pocketrockets]

Idk, you gotta start somewhere. I was out of school with a master's in engineering before I started to teach myself to code. I eventually learned a TON through trial and error and self-teaching before going back to pursue a 2nd master's in computer science.

With some people it just clicks and they can take the ball and run with it, given the right amount of drive and support. I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to pick these skills up just because they haven't dedicated their entire education or career to it up to this point.

When did you started to code? (what age? Im 29) and what language would you suggest to learn first?

This subject is so interesting to me... thanks man