In your opinion, who is worse, Joe Paterno or Bill Cosby?

[Enfuego]

Sad thread for sure. very frustrating again to see all the misinformation regarding this case.

McQueary is liar, who changed his story over and over

Mike was a compulsive gambler, who sent picture's of is dick to college girls , and was worried about getting caught

Nothing happen in the shower,

Here is one of multiple letters to the editor (and the Attorney General) which ( the boy in the shower) Allan Myers wrote before Jerry's arrest. This one has been truncated because the website is now subscription, but here is the full letter as it appeared in the Centre Daily Times.

http://www.lockhaven.com/page/content.detail/id/531468/Listen-to-Matt.ht...
RIP JOE

I have always been a Paterno supporter but when did McQueary change his story? Can you provide a source?

 

[brucefan]

The Contradictory Testimony of Mike McQueary

• PSU and Paterno Not Guilty - McQueary Testimony Proves It.
• Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
• I'm Mad As Hell and I'm Not Going to Take it Anymore!
• Former PSU President Spanier Releases Letter Consistent With Questions About McQueary Testimony
• Did Mike McQueary Tell His Message Board Buddies a Very Different Story in 2001?
• How the Testimony of Dr. Dranov Destroys the Media's Version of Events
• The Definitive Case That Mike McQueary's Story Is Not To Be Believed
• Transcript of Dr. Dranov's Testimony
• Did Mike McQueary Commit Perjury?
• Pictures of Penn State Shower Reveal The Absurdity of Mike McQueary's Testimony
• Matching Mike McQueary's Testimony with Photos of the Scene is Not Easy
• Eileen Morgan's Amazing Breakdown of the Evidence in the McQueary Episode

 

[Enfuego]

The Contradictory Testimony of Mike McQueary

• PSU and Paterno Not Guilty - McQueary Testimony Proves It.
• Another version of Mike McQueary's story about Jerry Sandusky surfaces
• I'm Mad As Hell and I'm Not Going to Take it Anymore!
• Former PSU President Spanier Releases Letter Consistent With Questions About McQueary Testimony
• Did Mike McQueary Tell His Message Board Buddies a Very Different Story in 2001?
• How the Testimony of Dr. Dranov Destroys the Media's Version of Events
• The Definitive Case That Mike McQueary's Story Is Not To Be Believed
• Transcript of Dr. Dranov's Testimony
• Did Mike McQueary Commit Perjury?
• Pictures of Penn State Shower Reveal The Absurdity of Mike McQueary's Testimony
• Matching Mike McQueary's Testimony with Photos of the Scene is Not Easy
• Eileen Morgan's Amazing Breakdown of the Evidence in the McQueary Episode

I read the first story on link one and if they're all the same, I'm not reading them.

The difference between his original account and testimony is a lack of a "thrust" from Sandusky to the boy's ass? That's how McQueary lied?

Come on man. And, the last link doesn't show anything really.

 

[loomis41973]

JoePa was scum...end of story.

Only people who stick up for this scum are either pedophiles or PSU diehards.

Sick fucking individual.

 

[beefdiesel]

Bill Cosby and it's not even close

 

[loomis41973]

Bill Cosby and it's not even close

How so?

He only supplied the drugs according to most recent reports...they were not drugged without their knowledge......How many times have you bought some alcohol, weed, coke, X, clothes or shoes for someone you wanted to bang?

 

[StevieRay]

Yea. U know half those girls were trying to sleep their way up Hollywood

 

[brucefan]

The truth will come out over time. The fact that anyone still believes this fairy tale is mind blowing .

It it will be a happy day when PSU finally grows a set , does the right thing , and puts that statue back where it belongs

 

[brucefan]

I read the first story on link one and if they're all the same, I'm not reading them.

The difference between his original account and testimony is a lack of a "thrust" from Sandusky to the boy's ass? That's how McQueary lied?

Come on man. And, the last link doesn't show anything really.

What if there is new info in the others, will you read them then? You asked, I provided the info.
He has changed his story many times, and there are serious character questions which may have dramatically effected his testimony of what he saw or heard, 10 YEARS. after the incident happened . Of course , not remembering the date , month and year wrong , doesn't help his case

 

[PatsFanatic]

The shower incident is a drop in the bucket, joe p knew what kind of person his friend was. No denying that.
The man was investigated many years prior which joe knew about as well.

 

[vitterd]

JoePa was scum...end of story.

Only people who stick up for this scum are either pedophiles or PSU diehards.

Sick fucking individual.

This is very true. Joe knew everything. There wasn't a thing he didn't know going on at penn state. It's sad how tough he was on kids but couldn't live up to his own standards.

 

[brucefan]

Lol. he wasn't his friend, they didn't even like each other

so many myths to dispel

 

[Enfuego]

What if there is new info in the others, will you read them then? You asked, I provided the info.
He has changed his story many times, and there are serious character questions which may have dramatically effected his testimony of what he saw or heard, 10 YEARS. after the incident happened . Of course , not remembering the date , month and year wrong , doesn't help his case

Again, I've defended Paterno all along even though he should've done more but you haven't shown anything that indicates McQueary changed his story.

I read the first story of the first link you posted. The story did not say he changed his story. I looked at the last link you provided, it was some random sketch of the shower. Again, nothing that indicates he changed his story.

Show me in one precise link where McQueary changed his story. Stay on topic now.

 

[REDEYE]

We might not have heard the final chapter yet with Cosby..the stories keep coming in..he's worse then Paterno and still distancing himself

 

[brucefan]

I read the first story on link one and if they're all the same, I'm not reading them.

The difference between his original account and testimony is a lack of a "thrust" from Sandusky to the boy's ass? That's how McQueary lied?

Come on man. And, the last link doesn't show anything really.

http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/08/20045-psu-messageboard-chat-gives.html

5.Over the years, both Mike and John McQueary told posters with whom they became friends in chat the Sandusky story. Every person they spoke to said it was consistently described as "horseplay in the shower." That's why nobody ever took it any further. There was nothing sexual ever connected with it.

 

[vitterd]

http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/08/20045-psu-messageboard-chat-gives.html

5.Over the years, both Mike and John McQueary told posters with whom they became friends in chat the Sandusky story. Every person they spoke to said it was consistently described as "horseplay in the shower." That's why nobody ever took it any further. There was nothing sexual ever connected with it.

Lol. Give it up.....joe is a piece of shit. He chose program over protecting kids from a child molester. End of story.

 

[Enfuego]

http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2012/08/20045-psu-messageboard-chat-gives.html

5.Over the years, both Mike and John McQueary told posters with whom they became friends in chat the Sandusky story. Every person they spoke to said it was consistently described as "horseplay in the shower." That's why nobody ever took it any further. There was nothing sexual ever connected with it.

A grown ass man can't play with a teenager in the shower. What don't you understand?

 

[scottcarter]

 

[brucefan]

A grown ass man can't play with a teenager in the shower. What don't you understand?

Whats your point? There was no rape , nothing sexual happened, Joe reported it , there was no cover up.

What should Joe have done ? I actually give you credit for standing up to some other sheep in here who know nothing about the case.

The more you learn, the better you will feel about that position

 

[brucefan]

Lol. Give it up.....joe is a piece of shit. He chose program over protecting kids from a child molester. End of story.

Best way to cover up a crime is notify the head of campus police .

Chosing program over principals was what Joe was all about, wait, or was it ......

I mean risking his legacy to cover up something for an ex coach who Joe couldn't stand, makes sense .

Yep, you got it all figured out

It all makes perfect sense http://framingpaterno.com/sites/default/files/Perfect Sense January 2015.pdf