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Hey Eek, looks like the problem is not limited to Detroit. Here's a recent piece about jolly ole' Britain:

Is it any wonder people are fleeing London?


By Jan Moir

Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 16/01/2008



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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>In a north London suburb last week, a schoolgirl was beaten, gang-raped and then had drain-cleaning fluid poured on her body apparently to destroy DNA evidence. In the eternal cesspit of senseless urban crime, I feel that a dreadful nadir of sorts has been reached, a benchmark of slaked lust and casual, sadistic cruelty.

Police sources say the 16-year-old will never fully recover from the injuries caused by the caustic soda and, at the time of writing, she remains under heavy sedation in a burns unit, fighting for her life.

One could weep an ocean for this young woman, her life ruined by these savages, who hunted in a pack like animals and dragged her to an empty house, caring nothing for her wellbeing or future.

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Drain cleaner? The callous premeditation is shocking, and underlines the fact that some of the rootless delinquents who roam the London streets are now scraping the bottom of the barrel of humanity.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that the attackers have been described as "five black youths", in case you think I'm being racist in highlighting this crime.

Yes, these are the peculiar times we live in, particularly in a week when Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, has pointed out that "white flight is accelerating" as Britain becomes increasingly polarised along ethnic lines.

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To be honest, most people I know don't blame white people for the state it's in. They are past that and it's time for many of the residents who remain there to look in the mirror. I do agree with your last sentence though and it's one of the reason I'm so hard on Kilpatrick and that fucking crooked city council. He had a chance to show the world what a young black man can do by leading and fucked up big time however he doesn't represent all black people and neither do these scumbag criminals.

wow, "most black people dont blame white people for the state of detroit", have any other news flashes? I can assure you that most white people DO blame black people for the current state of affairs there.
 

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London getting worser and worser.

A million miles away from where I'm at tho.
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wow, "most black people dont blame white people for the state of detroit", have any other news flashes? I can assure you that most white people DO blame black people for the current state of affairs there.

misplaced anger. kilpatrick is the figure head, you still got white leaders there doing nothing as well.

problem with jeffry22 is he sees everything in black and white. i feel sorry for those people.
 

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misplaced anger. kilpatrick is the figure head, you still got white leaders there doing nothing as well.

problem with jeffry22 is he sees everything in black and white. i feel sorry for those people.

There are no white leaders in detroit anymore, everybody bailed, don't you get it?
 

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The comparison of Detroit to Baghdad is just crazy. Baghdad is in better shape! I would have never guessed that.
 

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London getting worser and worser.

A million miles away from where I'm at tho.
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I suppose Belfast is also quite a trek for you, right? I'll be hanging out there on the Aug. 30-31 weekend. I figured I'd use some airmiles while the going's good and get my fill of snooker in the bargain.
 

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lawn mowed and car washed, so back to these photos.

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Above left: The elevated "People Mover" train rounds the abandoned Statler Hotel in Detroit city center.
Above right: when the "People Mover" was launched in the early 1980s, the smashed windows and buildings of the many abandoned buildings along its route presented an image problem for the non-White city fathers. In a move almost comical in nature, windows eye level to the train were covered and painted. In the case of the Statler Hotel awnings were added to shield the view of the lower windows. Since then, many of the awnings have fallen off.

edit: the above photo is near where i park at for detroit tigers games. :howdy:

 

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first photos used to be gathering place for civil war vets

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THE RUINS OF THE PACKARD PLANT, DETROIT
The Packard Motor Car manufacturing complex was established on this Detroit east-side location in 1907. Packard manufactured luxury vehicles here until it went out of business in 1956. This colossal 40 plus acre complex was sold for a paltry $750,000 the following year.
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What is most striking about this large expanse of manufacturing buildings is the neglect, dilapidation and vandalism that have been wrought on the complex. In more civilized environs, these facilities might have easily been transformed into a manufacturing and assembly center for any number of industrial enterprises. Instead, it lies barely utilized, in shameful disarray and surrounded by blight.
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This decay followed the rapid demographic transformation of Detroit from a prosperous majority-European American city into a crime-ridden and poverty-stricken majority African-American city propped up by government handouts, band-aids and feel good charitable donations from corporations.
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Neglect and abuse continue to reduce much of Detroit’s infrastructure to a more advanced state of decay with each passing year. Like a patient with a chronic life-threatening illness, but dressed up in a nice suit, having well-polished shoes and clean fingernails, the development in Detroit’s city center is held up as evidence of progress while the day of the wrecking ball and bulldozer approaches for the blighted neighborhoods and moribund manufacturing complexes which cover large tracts of the city.
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The most explicit example of Detroits decay

Michigan Central Station used to be the state's main railway station. Today it is a vast multi-story ruin, with the White inhabitants having long since moved away. It stands as an eerie monument to a previous White city: now an unused wreck, possibly one of the greatest signs of the destruction of this once great city. EDIT: BOTTOM PHOTO LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING IN 1970S BEIRUT OR CURRENT IRAQ
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Above: Three views of the Taxi Stand located at the west end of the MCS building. In the bottom photograph, bays are visible where cabs would wait for paying fares.
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Below: The ramp adjacent to the streetcar entrance.
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Above and below: Car wrecks, lying abandoned in Detroit. Below right, an abandoned boat dumped in the street.
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Above left: Another debris littered street on Detroit's east side. Above right: An old camper, and assorted debris litter a Detroit street.
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Above: Abandoned vehicles litter Detroit's east side.
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Above: A liquor store on Detroit's east side proudly indicates black ownership to its would be customers. One can only imagine the reaction if a white owned shop had to put up such a sign.
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woofdaddy, how do you know so much about detroit. do you live near there?
 

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Pontiac makes Detroit seem like Disneyworld, you talk about a fucked up city. HIGHLAND PARK STAND UP!!!!!

Stand up? It looks like instead it has fallen to the ground.

HIGHLAND PARK - DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS AND CRIME RATES
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Black Population
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% White of Total Population
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% Black of Total Population
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Annual Criminal Homicide Rate per 100,000 Residents
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Robbery (Total)
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Annual Number of Robberies per 100,000 Residents
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1940
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49.475
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1.292
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97.5%
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2.5%
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2
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39
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77
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1950
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42.403
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3.99
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91.4%
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2
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4.3
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41
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88
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1960
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29.9
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8.163
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78.6%
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21.4%
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103
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271
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1970
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15.293
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19.609
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43.8%
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56.2%
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37.2
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585
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1676
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1980
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3.996
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22.936
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14.8%
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85.2%
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89.1
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388
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1441
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1990
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1.309
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18.7
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6.5%
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93.5%
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21
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105.0
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376
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1879
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2000
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0.819
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15.647
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4.9%
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93.3%
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11
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66.8
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247
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1500
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Crime Data from Federal Bureau of Investigation annually published "Uniform Crime Reports". Uniform Crime Reports from 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1981, 1990 and 2000.
Population statistics from the US Census data 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000.
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Between 1940 and 2000:
  • Highland Park's white population decreased 98%, from 49,475 to 816
  • Highland Park's black population increased 1111%, from to 1,292 to 15,647
  • Highland Park's overall population decreased 303%, from 50,810 to 16,746
  • Highland Park's criminal homicide rate increased from 3240%, from 2.0 to 66.8 per 100,000 residents annually
  • Highland Park's robbery rate rose from 1848%, from 77 to 1500 per 100,000 residents annually.
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eek, no movie needed for this is current reality.

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Is Highland Park capable of standing? Dont think so.

Ruined Houses in the Highland Park Area
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Above: A house and the 'Enid'apartment building (built 1925), on the right.
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Above: Rear views of the north and south wings of a large brownstone apartment building
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The overgrown and trash littered front entrance of the large brownstone apartment building pictured above.
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go2guy...maybe folks in highland park should wake up before they stand up?

RUINED HOUSES IN THE HIGHLAND PARK AREA OF DETROIT
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included type from website not my own

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Above: These streets were once bustling White neighborhoods - now totally leveled ruins, visible on satellite images as green fields.
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Another ruined apartment building.
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A former storefront . . .
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THE RUINS OF DETROIT
According to the 2000 US census, 88% of Detroit's population is non-White. This percentage is even higher in the city center. Detroit qualifies as the most ruined city in the USA. In addition to massive White Flight, the non-White residents started the tradition - which has spread to other cities - of "Devil's Night". This is the habit or burning down parts of the city on the night before Halloween.
A huge non-White population, combined with annual arson attacks, bankruptcy, crime and decay, have combined to make Detroit - once the USA's leading automotive industrial center - into a ruin comparable with those of the ancient civilizations - with the cause being identical: the replacement of the White population who built the city, with a new non-White population.
<hr>"Landsat MSS" satellite and TM data from 1975 and 1992 have been employed by the University of Michigan to create the following change image for vegetation in Detroit, Michigan. The change image was then overlain with 1980 and 1990 census tract data and analysis is performed to determine the relationship between the socio-economic-demographic data and the change in vegetation.
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"The pattern of increasing vegetation in Detroit appears related to the demographic, social, and economic conditions and changes taking place in the city. By incorporating data from the 1980 and 1990 U.S. Census of Population and Housing, an association can be made between the social environment and change in the vegetation of Detroit's census tracts. Using spatial analysis techniques patterns of spatial processes can be determined and compared. Our findings show that in the city of Detroit, social stress and neighborhood decline, marked by a low median income and a high fertility rate, is associated with, and can be detected by, an increase in the vegetation."
- The Greening of Detroit: The Social and Demographic Correlates, Rhonda M. Ryznar, Ph.D. Candidate, John D. Nystuen, Ph.D., Robert W. Marans, Ph.D, University of Michigan, Department of Urban and Regional Planning (http://www.spatial.maine.edu/ucgis/testproc/ryznar/ryznar.html)
"Groundtruthing in the city of Detroit revealed that areas with predominantly green pixels occurred in neighborhoods with a high frequency of abandoned houses, overgrown sidewalks, and overgrown and sometimes impassable alleyways. These neighborhoods were usually punctuated by large vacant open spaces where abandoned homes or buildings had been demolished."
- The Greening of Detroit: The Social and Demographic Correlates, Rhonda M. Ryznar, Ph.D. Candidate, John D. Nystuen, Ph.D., Robert W. Marans, Ph.D, University of Michigan, Department of Urban and Regional Planning (http://www.spatial.maine.edu/ucgis/testproc/ryznar/ryznar.html)
"However, while the presence of vegetation in urban areas at a point in time may be correlated with areas of higher income, our preliminary study of Detroit indicated that a change, or increase, in vegetation density may be associated with communities undergoing social stress, i.e., a diminishing quality of life."
- The Greening of Detroit: The Social and Demographic Correlates, Rhonda M. Ryznar, Ph.D. Candidate, John D. Nystuen, Ph.D., Robert W. Marans, Ph.D, University of Michigan, Department of Urban and Regional Planning (http://www.spatial.maine.edu/ucgis/testproc/ryznar/ryznar.html)
 

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