If you take betting serious- You must have 10+ accounts- reason (tonite) NJ +7

[Thrillseeker]

Ten ? I dont think so in today's atmosphere. Just 3yrs ago I would have said yes to 10, even more.

Today:

1. Pinny
2. Matchbook/WSEX
3. OLY/BetJam
4. CRIS
5. 5Dimes

Those five (seven I guess) will do it

Yes, those 5 or 7 will do if you only play favs and/or Overs...otherwise you are leaving a boatload of money on the table and dramatically hurting your win %...

Actually, the number of books isn't the most important criteria...the diversity of the numbers is really what's important - the full juice Oly clones don't really do you any good...

The point is that it is mathematically impossible to lose in the long run for a small/medium player if you're discplined & diligently shop for numbers...

 

[Fishhead]

Fish the EXPOSURE for me is not worth the reward. Just my opinion.

FULLY 100% UNDERSTANDABLE and something that makes PERFECT sense.

 

[phdinsports]

Its is also doubly absurd to say that one should have 10 accounts so that once every six months he can get a unique number only available at one book. This simply shows that calibre of capper that you are. A serious capper does not make his season on one game alone. And making a huge financial decision like this can not be made based on such flimsy reasoning.

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Mate, that's not the case. In a two day stretch, I once lost six college Bball games by 1 point or less. I only had one out back then.

To everyone out there, keep in touch with your locals/bookmakers, because many of them or going online!!! No need to keep your money tied up with offshores, provided your disciplined enough, 'cause betting on credit will get you in trouble!

 

[foreignlegion]

Have not had LESS than 10 ACTIVE offshore accounts since the turn of the century..............always knew I was a HUGE MORON in more ways than one.


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we are in total agreeance on that point...seeing as you were one of those people who led a hapless bunch of bettors into Betonsports...

please let us know how that turned out..

 

[Fishhead]

we are in total agreeance on that point...seeing as you were one of those people who led a hapless bunch of bettors into Betonsports...

please let us know how that turned out..

How did I lead them?????

Played there, liked them, and stated so.

In the end, everybody is responsible for their own decisions ......not only in selecting an offshore book, but with ANYTHING in life.

I would hate to blame the many bad decisions I have made in my life on others.

 

[foreignlegion]

Not a professional or have I ever said I was one but I take this very serious and it is a rewarding HOBBY for me. One that I spend hours on a day.

Once in a blue moon event? Try, I guarantee I get a top flight number everyday, all day. .

See i said i was a serious gambler and i know bullshit when i see it.

I am no longer prone to flavor of the month myths and lies.


If you claim you get all those numbers of fair numbers that apparently the rest of us cant get, i simply challenge you to post these numbers so all can confirm whether you are lying or not..(I know you are lying so you wont post any numbers to prove your point but its worth asking anyway..)


Same goes for you pretenders that are faking like you are serious gamblers who have 10 off shore accounts.....how stupid do you think we are?

 

[foreignlegion]

How did I lead them?????

Played there, liked them, and stated so.

In the end, everybody is responsible for their own decisions ......not only in selecting an offshore book, but with ANYTHING in life.

I would hate to blame the many bad decisions I have made in my life on others.

Well then case is fvcking closed..I just proved my point by using you yourself as a clear cut example of how stupid it is to expose yourself like you did and you got burned.

 

[Iceman]

Well then case is fvcking closed..I just proved my point by using you yourself as a clear cut example of how stupid it is to expose yourself like you did and you got burned.

and what if BOS was one of your 4 only accounts. Than you would be hurting as 25% of your BR would be gone. It's better to spread the wealth, your idea makes zero sense.


All I can say is good luck because if you are this close minded about this than you are going to need it.

I can almost promise (professional or not) that I am putting in more hours and looking and finding better numbers than 99.9% of the gamblers out there. If you can get away with your approach than more power to you as I hardly beleieve you are playing with much of an edge in the long run.

I will be more than happy to post my great numbers(which has put me over the top) if you are more than happy to post your great handicapping skills that somehow must put you in the professional category.

 

[mj23]

If PINNY goes broke i quit!!

 

[mj23]

An old saying of mine when you play with dirt you get dirty so why not stay clean and deal with just a few good books!!

 

[X-Files]

I tried that at the beginning of baseball season and was told that this was almost a guarantee because of all the plays that this was EAAAAASY money. Well, if you followed along it was an absolute BLOODBATH that I aborted early enough due to it beig to confusing. Can't imagine anyone is having a winning year this year if this stuck with the baseball cappers last year.

Admitedly we would have got our asses handed to us in MLB this year
following the best cappers from the years before. You are not going to
win in every sport every year following this method. Even ACE-ACE has
had several losing seasons in the NFL in the last 10 or 15 years. Though
he picked up about 50 units last year with an incredible playoff run. If
you lose all your bankroll {10% of overall BR} in one sport one season
but gain 110% in 9 other sports, you are still ahead 100% of BR at the
end of the year. 100 units a year is only an average of less than two
units a week, or a 10 unit average profit in each of 10 sports.

 

[Iceman]

See i said i was a serious gambler and i know bullshit when i see it.

I am no longer prone to flavor of the month myths and lies.


If you claim you get all those numbers of fair numbers that apparently the rest of us cant get, i simply challenge you to post these numbers so all can confirm whether you are lying or not..(I know you are lying so you wont post any numbers to prove your point but its worth asking anyway..)


Same goes for you pretenders that are faking like you are serious gamblers who have 10 off shore accounts.....how stupid do you think we are?

As I get ready to leave for the nite, I read this again and ask myself "What is your point?" are you saying NOT to have multiple accounts and not to worry about line shopping? None of this makes any sense. This has to be one of the stupidest disagreements I have had on here.

My point is and was the more outs you have the better because you can have better numbers and win the close games. What part of that don't you agree with?

No reason to go after Fishhead, he has taught more people on here how to do things the right way than any one poster and I can guarantee that. I am pretty sure he (and hopefully I) will be here and winning with these methods for a LONG time.

 

[Iceman]

Not saying to do anything bad or play at bad books but saying to find some outs that cater more to the underdog player and (usually) bet close to gametime lines that you can squeeze an extra half point to a point out of. Whats is up with the paranoia, the book I am talking about fro last nites bet hasn't ever stiffed anyone that I know. Just talking about line shopping for valueable extra points.

 

[gold64]

I have 17 Active Accounts.

.. I agree with ICEMAN 100%

 

[X-Files]

Not saying to do anything bad or play at bad books but saying to find some outs that cater more to the underdog player and (usually) bet close to gametime lines that you can squeeze an extra half point to a point out of. Whats is up with the paranoia, the book I am talking about fro last nites bet hasn't ever stiffed anyone that I know. Just talking about line shopping for valueable extra points.

Excellent advice.

 

[foreignlegion]

and what if BOS was one of your 4 only accounts. Than you would be hurting as 25% of your BR would be gone. It's better to spread the wealth, your idea makes zero sense.


All I can say is good luck because if you are this close minded about this than you are going to need it.

I can almost promise (professional or not) that I am putting in more hours and looking and finding better numbers than 99.9% of the gamblers out there. If you can get away with your approach than more power to you as I hardly beleieve you are playing with much of an edge in the long run.

I will be more than happy to post my great numbers(which has put me over the top) if you are more than happy to post your great handicapping skills that somehow must put you in the professional category.

There is no case whatsoever for bos to be one of my four books. If my argument is that one can not have only have at most 4 books in which they can feel secure, it would be stupid to theorize that BOS could be among those four books. They were a marginal book known to steal peoples money, once you get out of the core 4 to 5 books, every other book falls in the same category as BOS..

So the argument that BOS could have been among my four books is bogus and contrary to the whole idea of limiting the number of books to a few establishments.

And yes you are right, my mind is closed and when challeged to provide data for us to verify you have tucked you tail and run...

 

[harrington]

I play with about 5 funded accounts, but I do keep a balance at Neteller and have access to as many as 15 other books which I can fund in a matter of minutes if need be. If I see a number I like at a shop that isn't funded all I do is go to Neteller and make a deposit.

 

[dankhank]

iceman didn't post any new revelations here. he made a good move and wanted to share it, maybe help a few people.

foreignlegion you are out of your element

i thought 10+ books was standard.

if you only have the standard safe seven books then you are missing a ton of edges on a daily basis. bottom line.

however i disagree with you ice, i am not in as many books as i can afford. i'm only in as many books as i'm able to keep an eye on.

 

[foreignlegion]

As I get ready to leave for the nite, I read this again and ask myself "What is your point?" ..

I made my point very very clearly. I said it is absurd to expose yourself at 10 books in an industry as undependable as ours.

Note, this, i am not saying it is bad to look for good numbers, i am specifically stating that the risk of putting money in marginal books (and you would have to do that to meet that ridiculous number of 10)

And this goes to serious gamblers not 100 dollar here and there kind bettors.

I have argued that even with the few books i have , you will not have any distinct advantage over me in the longrun.

You may find a number or two that i cant get but that will probably be once every six months.

If you are talking to a serious gambler, they will all laugh at you in the face if you told them they should expose themselves to that much risk just so to get a the rare line that might not even matter in the long run.

(try to get that point in your head, i can get 99% of all they numbers you can get at my books, the 1% i cant get still has even a slimmer chance to be that particular line will be the one that is decided by the difference you got at one of your 10 books.)

i will state again, 99% of the people here claiming they have 17 books are total clowns that are straight out lying or play with monopoly money. I know bullshit when i read it and i will not be afraid to call you out on it.

 

[mrhognuts]

in my opinion,it is laughable that a professional gambler would fund every tom dick and harry book that came along so he could possibly get an occasional half point,,a pro would not in a million years do that,,financial suicide,,,iceman,im not bashin you,you are still young and very impressionable,,now go and have a wonderful night