He's not addressing our points. I made the point that you replied to him in an intelligent way that showed me that you had some idea of what you were talking about therefore you were not ignorant. Instead he just takes the high road and replies to my post like he is right.
He also didn't address the points others made that Christmas isn't just a Christian holiday and then he says he doesn't understand why people who aren't Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus. He just started a thread so he could rant on about his beliefs without addressing anyone else's posts.
I refuse to waste any more time with someone who doesn't answer my points and instead just goes off on his own rant.
You could not possibly be more wrong...or less informed...I will let you decide which one you are. Here is a link for you to study - http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm ; you can educate yourself on the original holiday and how it is transformed into what we celebrate today. I find it odd that most Christians honestly believe that Dec 25th is the actual birthday of Christ...you cannot defend this position using your bible - only your opinion and thought, which quite frankly doesn't matter at all according to the majority of your religion. The only thing that matters when dealing with Christianity is the "divine, holy, infallible etc. word of God" and no where is it mentioned, not even hinted upon, that Jesus was born on Dec 25th.
While you are formulating a response, perhaps you can explain to me how your god (who you say created the sun) created the plants and trees on Earth - which I am sure you realize depend on the sun to survive - before he made the sun and moon? Do you also believe that the Earth and the rest of the Universe was in place BEFORE our sun and moon? If not, why don't you believe what the good book teaches? I am sure you can come with a good reason.
lol, cincy, people are taking my orignial question way out of context. i don't care who actually believe's in God or who doesn't, i find it a little humorous that people participate in what many believe to be a holiday that is directly associated w the birth of christ. i personally won't aor don't take part in any celebration's outside of my belief's. i could care less. to each their own my friend, it still doesn't mean people can't do what they want which i am not judging or condemning them for, i get a kick out of those that come on here spewing direct hatred towards me and the question i asked....and they love to still celebrate the holiday's...whoopie...
it is easy to see that you're just an angry bitter old man. you have made some interesting comment's and some of which i don't agree with, but if you really have read the bible i think you might not be so bitter. i don't really care who actually celebrate's x-mas, i was just asking a question w this thread, not trying to convert anyone or condemn anyone. some of you are taking this way out of context and getting really bent over it which is really the funniest thing i have seen on here for quite some time...lol...sorry to have ruined your day....lmao
'if' you liquify...i was referring to the actual air you are breathing rt now that can't be seen w the naked eye..'if's' don't cut it....what was it that really pushed you away from your religous belief's? just curious...if you actually think that i believe people HAVE to have a 'religion' to have a relationship w God, you got me all wrong. i know some very spiritual people who are wonderful human being's and don't belong to an organized 'religion'. and we get along just fine...
thank's for the link. very interesting i must say. i have alway's known that dec 25th was not the actual b-day of jesus even before i read this. the rest of the link that i read was very interesting. seem's as though the jew's have been tormented quite harshly for their belief's. rape,murder, naked races....wow....thank's for the link, i am going to read more of this when i get some time....
This video will explain much about the history and origins of Christianity and other religions. it's about 30 minutes long but very informative:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw
Once you again, you never fail to surprise me with your misjudgments. I am not old...I fact I am in my late twenties. Believe it or not I have read the Bible many times - I can practically guarantee I know much more about it than you do. I find it odd that you do not ask one bible question nor try to back up any of your opinions using the scriptures. What I have gathered from your posts is that you are a guy who does "Christianity his way"...this isn't a problem in my eyes, but many of your constituents would openly condemn you for this and it basically impossible to have a reasonable discussion with someone like this. All in all, you are doing nothing but talking - you offer no supporting evidence for anything you claim.
Of course it cannot be seen, but we can measure and quantify its effects on the environment around us. You cannot see gravity either, but we understand the concept of how massive objects such as our Earth hold less massive objects (such as us) in their grip. What are you talking about with the "ifs" anyway? You mean like...if you were born in Iran you would be a Muslim...or if you were Tom Cruise's child you would be a Scientologist? I have already told you what pushed me away - it was my knowledge of the Bible and how the nonsense contained in it's pages contradicted what I could see in front of my very eyes - people like yourself who are so self-righteously ignorant only helped me along. One thing you are right on, however, is that spirituality has nothing to do with religion - or at least in my mind it shouldn't. There are tons of people who have one or the other, but rarely merge the two. In my opinion, a church-goer should strive to have a spiritual relationship with god while using their religion to govern their lives in accordance with their good book. I get the strange feeling that you have never tested your faith and rely on your own blind indifference to guide you through life without asking yourself the big questions.
