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yes i am, im on a break right now... just a year or so to finish computer engineering... i also studied psychology for almost 2 years but dropped out... took a course in criminology as well... why is this important?
 

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do you believe in the devil?

Nope.

I dont know much about God. I just don't think Christianity (or any other religion) knows any more than me. Not you, not the Pope, not any Rabbi and not some Imam.

So I will celebrate Christmas as a holiday ... even if you think I shouldn't.

PS: do you believe God will allow the Jets to cover the spread on Monday?
 
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I don't think he exhibits any "ignorance" toward God. He has spoken quite intelligently about the subject. If you mean "ignorance" as in a different viewpoint than your own than that is just arrogance on your part. This arrogance by people I believe has been the biggest thing to turn people off from religion.

indeed guantumleap is right here... everybody is just sick and tired of being preached around with self-righteousness

i come from a roman-catholic family... ive seen this mea culpa and blame and fear and is sickening to my stomach

yet if my family is happy being religious, good for them. i respect that. and they have learned to respect my pov
 

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Come on guys, everyone in this thread lives or is from America right? We forget the real reasons for all our holidays, most people celebrate for their own reasons, right or wrong. Thats not for us to decide
 
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Come on guys, everyone in this thread lives or is from America right? We forget the real reasons for all our holidays, most people celebrate for their own reasons, right or wrong. Thats not for us to decide

exactly my point.... just for the plain pleasure of celebration... the ifs and the whys dont really matter
 

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I don't think he exhibits any "ignorance" toward God. He has spoken quite intelligently about the subject. If you mean "ignorance" as in a different viewpoint than your own than that is just arrogance on your part. This arrogance by people I believe has been the biggest thing to turn people off from religion.
what his ignorance about God is not my fault, nor do i believe it is arrogance on my part. imo. what i find from most of these type's that i run across is they have never given God a fair chance or even have read much of the bible if any at all. it doesn't bother me at all, it is their choice. it's not like i have all the answer's in life, and there are thing's that i am colmpletely ignorant about such as, oh let's say, brain surgery. i have no interest, and therefore my lack of knowledge on this subject is very little. i believe alot of people 'look' for a reason to let themselves get turned off by religion as an excuse. to ea their own my friend. religion or God is not for everyone and that is cool by me, i think it's funny how they still celebrate the birth of Jesus w all of us believer's....
 

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Christmas as it's celebrated today has nothing to do with Christ or God.

This is honestly one of the dumbest posts I've seen posted here in this board. Your self-righteousness comes through the screen.

Don't get offended by this but this is exactly the reason people hate dumb rednecks.
that may be just your opinion about how it is celebrated by some , which is my pt, they could care less about birth of christ, which is the reason, but that is fine by me, it's just funny to me as this is why i started this thread...lol. i don't care either way man, i am still going to do it my way. people are taking this the WAY THEY CHOOSE TOO. i am not the one on here getting ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE OVER IT AS MANY ON HERE HAVE BEEN.lol...prob mostly college kids'....lmao...go figure that one out....lol...peace..
 

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whatever it's not a random pic you found....and I can still use it thanks! ohh and it's your kid, I'm not an idiot...unless you are a single 50 year old with no family and put up a pic of your 3rd cousins baby.
 

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Come on guys, everyone in this thread lives or is from America right? We forget the real reasons for all our holidays, most people celebrate for their own reasons, right or wrong. Thats not for us to decide
lol. all i did was ask a question, and those w a hatred toward's religion started attacking me. i did not go after any one person. it is understood by many that x-mas is celebrated for the birth of jesus. i could care less if other's choose to celebrate it as i do, whoopie....
 

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whatever it's not a random pic you found....and I can still use it thanks! ohh and it's your kid, I'm not an idiot...unless you are a single 50 year old with no family and put up a pic of your 3rd cousins baby.

i am glad you think you are very funny and life all figured out at 21 living in your mom's basement....good for you son...
 

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i am glad you think you are very funny and life all figured out at 21 living in your mom's basement....good for you son...

you are correct...I have to sign off now because my mom says so ...good night and why lie?
 

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what his ignorance about God is not my fault, nor do i believe it is arrogance on my part. imo. what i find from most of these type's that i run across is they have never given God a fair chance or even have read much of the bible if any at all. it doesn't bother me at all, it is their choice. it's not like i have all the answer's in life, and there are thing's that i am colmpletely ignorant about such as, oh let's say, brain surgery. i have no interest, and therefore my lack of knowledge on this subject is very little. i believe alot of people 'look' for a reason to let themselves get turned off by religion as an excuse. to ea their own my friend. religion or God is not for everyone and that is cool by me, i think it's funny how they still celebrate the birth of Jesus w all of us believer's....

Once again you are blinded by your own arrogance and indifference. If you knew anything about me, you would know that I was very religious for the biggest majority of my life. I have read the Bible cover to cover many times and participated for years in public debate's during which I defended the Bible. Ironically enough, it was my own knowledge of the Bible which began to cast the seeds of doubt in my mind. Honestly, you are one of the most unintelligent posters I have ever seen...it is literally painful for me to try to decipher your rants. If you would give me 10 minutes of your time to debate I would make you look like the fool that you are you. I do not believe that it is a huge leap of faith to assume you have absolutely no real knowledge of the Bible - much less the linguistic or mental capacity to formulate an argument and defend it. If you want to look really stupid, just keep on talking old man - I am sure the baby Jesus is quite pleased with your scholarly defense of his teaching.
 

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i don't believe i have to make you understand this because i started a thread asking a question. religion is not the same as spirituality, they differ in their respectful opinion's and practices. do you believe we breath oxygen? can you see it? how about love, can you see it? i too was very much like you at a point and time in my life. i don't think any different of you because you wish not to believe, that's fine by me. there is a percentage of those that believe in God without ever knowing him or asking any question's about him. i prefer to ask. would you ever take or have you ever taken a class and not ask at least one question to what you are being taught? i hope you enjoy all the perfect weekend's in your life that seem to suit you, after all, persuing your goal's and dream's is really none of my business and i too wish you a merry x-mas...

If you had any sense at all you would know that if we liquify oxygen we can see it. All you need to do is alter the state...and viola! Visible! You can also taste and smell oxygen. If you do not believe me just try it. You could also hang out in an air-tight container for 30 minutes or so and feel the effects an oxygen-depleted environment. Love cannot be seen because love is an emotion. Can you see anger, happiness, sadness, etc?? I guess you probably believe that you have "felt" god or something of the nature - either that or you claim divine revelation ala Joseph Smith - either way you are nut case in the eyes of the majority. Religion is nothing more than a state of mass delusion. People by and large are incredibly stupid (i.e. you, specificially) and will believe basically anything you beat into their heads. If you don't believe me just go to LA and talk to the guys out at the scientology center.
 

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If you had any sense at all you would know that if we liquify oxygen we can see it. All you need to do is alter the state...and viola! Visible! You can also taste and smell oxygen. If you do not believe me just try it. You could also hang out in an air-tight container for 30 minutes or so and feel the effects an oxygen-depleted environment. Love cannot be seen because love is an emotion. Can you see anger, happiness, sadness, etc?? I guess you probably believe that you have "felt" god or something of the nature - either that or you claim divine revelation ala Joseph Smith - either way you are nut case in the eyes of the majority. Religion is nothing more than a state of mass delusion. People by and large are incredibly stupid (i.e. you, specificially) and will believe basically anything you beat into their heads. If you don't believe me just go to LA and talk to the guys out at the scientology center.
lmao...you really seem to havee found a calling in your life, lonliness...lol..it must really suck for you to go around so angry and mad about life and the card's you have been dealt. you think you really know me or anything really about me from a few post's on an internet forum in which you spew hate and and blindness....your life must really be sad.....should of stayed in bed today because you have absolutly accomplished nothing today....sure you read the bible....this must be why you are so smart and have nothing better to do other than pound away on your computer all day looking for some friends.....gl
 

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If you had any sense at all you would know that if we liquify oxygen we can see it. All you need to do is alter the state...and viola! Visible! You can also taste and smell oxygen. If you do not believe me just try it. You could also hang out in an air-tight container for 30 minutes or so and feel the effects an oxygen-depleted environment. Love cannot be seen because love is an emotion. Can you see anger, happiness, sadness, etc?? I guess you probably believe that you have "felt" god or something of the nature - either that or you claim divine revelation ala Joseph Smith - either way you are nut case in the eyes of the majority. Religion is nothing more than a state of mass delusion. People by and large are incredibly stupid (i.e. you, specificially) and will believe basically anything you beat into their heads. If you don't believe me just go to LA and talk to the guys out at the scientology center.
so what is it life that you do that is so impresssive besides acting like you know everything,,,,,do you want us to call YOU god????lmao....
 

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lmao...you really seem to havee found a calling in your life, lonliness...lol..it must really suck for you to go around so angry and mad about life and the card's you have been dealt. you think you really know me or anything really about me from a few post's on an internet forum in which you spew hate and and blindness....your life must really be sad.....should of stayed in bed today because you have absolutly accomplished nothing today....sure you read the bible....this must be why you are so smart and have nothing better to do other than pound away on your computer all day looking for some friends.....gl

Re-read what you wrote. Where do you find anything in my post about loneliness?? Why do think I am angry and mad all the time?? The only thing I get angry about is dolt's like you who have no clue about anything beyond their small, self-centered little world. The only thing that I know about you is that you are an idiot - and yes, I have read the Bible - I asked you to have a debate and you have obviously declined. If you don't have anything intelligent to post to defend your position just leave it be because nothing you say makes any sense. I am quite sure you will want the last word so I will leave it with you, unless of course you can muster the brain power and courage to say something intelligent.
 

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