I Hate to say this but Jim Tressel needs to go

[Incubus]

The Miami defender isn't even looking back for the ball. He face is buried in the OSU players chest with the ball in the air. Clearly pass interference

Here is a thorough analysis of the play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpTkYMLzdc&feature=fvw

Ball hit Gamble's hands clearly BEFORE Sharp hit him. Check out the various slow motion replays.

In the words of annoucer (and Hall of Fame QB) Dan Fouts:

BAD CALL!

The 2002 National Championship Ohio State has is TAINTED!

 

[Incubus]

Alright, he didn't do much. A junior high QB can hand it off or throw a 5 yard dump pass. He made one good throw on the drive to a wide open receiver. I'm not saying he sucked all night - he made a few nice throws. But all the people heaping praise on him like he played like a God last night are ridiculous. The O line and Joe Mcknight are waaaaaaay more responsible for that final drive and all you hear is Barkley this and Barkley that. He was no better than average at any time, IMO.

I think most people heaping priase on Barkley are doing so due to the fact he is a TRUE Freshman who performed admirably in a HOSTILE environment of 100,000+ rapid fans.

A junior high QB would have shat or pissed his pants in such a pressure packed environment.

 

[Gravy]

Yeah I slept on this and the more and more I thought about it who in the hell would Ohio State get if Tressel left as there are a few I would consider like Urban Meyer would be one and dont think he is going anywhere anytime soon but other than that not many quality choices.I just which that Tressel would change how he goes about doing things with his play calling as it just gets frustrating watching him sometimes with his conservative BS that all. Ok Im done and over with this as the game is over and time to move on and nothing you can do to change the outcome.

 

[EasyMoney]

You're missing the point. Barkley is getting accolades not for his stats, but his composure & maturity.

4th quarter, down 5, , top 10 ranked opponent, 2nd & 19 on their own 5, 106K + screaming down your neck, first college road game ever......Barkley: "No problem, let's do this shit!"

He deserves a shit ton of credit. He just freaking turned 19 on Tuesday! Read what his teammates had to say about him postgame. To a man they marveled at his leadership. 5th year seniors could not believe his composure.

Stats-wise this game was a throwaway but great QB's are not just guys who throw the ball or hand it off. They are leaders, they make the other 10 guys in that huddle believe.

BTW, Forcier looked great also but you don't see the difference between between beating ND at home vs. going into the 'Shoe and leading your team on what amounts to a 95 yard game winning drive in the 4th Q? :think2:

No I get it. He will be very good. I'm just already tired of the praise this kid is getting. His composure and maturity, really. What did he do. Call the play and then hand the ball off. OK. great job. I'm not saying he shouldn't get some credit but how about giving the guy that actually won the game for USC some love. And seriously what are his teammates going to say about him post-game. Of course they gave him props, what were you expecting them to say they won in spite of their QB. The kid may very well be a great leader but in two games he really hasn't shown he can throw the ball yet. I mean if this is the road we are going to take than lets throw some love to Keenum, the Houston QB. He actually put up good stats and led his team to victory against #5 in the country on the road.

 

[ParkerPerry]

I agree with Tressel, He needs to take chances! I mean we saw what pete Carrol did on forth and goal. went for it and got 7. that is the differnce in this game.

If Tressel does the same when he is on the goal line we win the game. I like conservative play to a point, but sometimes you got to go for it.

 

[Conan]

You're fcking clueless pal, seriously wow. Why do I argue with idiots like you. I'm done getting baited in by you idiots who use the conference group us vs them bullshit. It's the most pathetic, worn out discussion in the history of spots.

LSU struggled with a horrible Pac 10 team.. Tennessee got licked by a mediocre one. Georgia got lickde by a Big 12 team that got smacked by a Conference USA team. WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?! Only dumb assholes with nothing better to talk about.

Teams change every fucking year, conference balance changes every fucking year. When you hear a "Oh we're the best conference" argument, you can pretty much guarantee that person is a complete moron that can't wrap his peabrain around logic.

Sekrah, I hope you post more about this subject down the road. I get worn the f*ck out explaining to these clowns that "elite" teams are supposedly winners. A conference that loses most of its OOC games is NOT elite compared to the rest of the country, far from it. So WTF do they think they are they talking about? Maybe they have more depth down the line than the others do, but considering the talent they have, what a pure waste. As a conference, they should rarely lose to outsiders, but the opposite is true. Underachievers mean they are WORSE, not better than everyone else. What a waste of good talent.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

This was a game OSU should have been able to win and they still didnt get it done.

The best coaches and players find ways to win the best games and OSU again came up short.

 

[Sekrah]

Tressel needs to go? You've won a title, been to a few more, win the big-10 by default most years and accomplishing all of this in a state that has 3 major cities known for financial misery. Sometimes we lose perspective when success becomes a commonplace, its time Ohio State fans show gratitude for the sweater vest. How soon we forget about Mr. Cooper.

Wow.. A VoiceofReason in a thread of morons! Well said VoR. :toast:

 

[Conan]

Here is a thorough analysis of the play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpTkYMLzdc&feature=fvw

Ball hit Gamble's hands clearly BEFORE Sharp hit him. Check out the various slow motion replays.

In the words of annoucer (and Hall of Fame QB) Dan Fouts:

BAD CALL!

The 2002 National Championship Ohio State has is TAINTED!

I don't agree entirely because (approx. 3:00 mark) Glen Sharpe CLEARLY smacked Gamble's left arm away from raising his arms up to catch the ball when he was at the goal line (5 yards downfield.) That could easily have prevented Gamble from having a clear shot at catching the ball. FWIW

 

[PokerKingJim]

no i get it. He will be very good. I'm just already tired of the praise this kid is getting. His composure and maturity, really. What did he do. Call the play and then hand the ball off. Ok. Great job. I'm not saying he shouldn't get some credit but how about giving the guy that actually won the game for usc some love.

+1

 

[PokerKingJim]

This was a game OSU should have been able to win and they still didnt get it done.

The best coaches and players find ways to win the best games and OSU again came up short.

+1 again

 

[TKE683]

Alright, he didn't do much. A junior high QB can hand it off or throw a 5 yard dump pass. He made one good throw on the drive to a wide open receiver. I'm not saying he sucked all night - he made a few nice throws. But all the people heaping praise on him like he played like a God last night are ridiculous. The O line and Joe Mcknight are waaaaaaay more responsible for that final drive and all you hear is Barkley this and Barkley that. He was no better than average at any time, IMO.

Well said :toast:

 

[3peet]

I agree with Tressel, He needs to take chances! I mean we saw what pete Carrol did on forth and goal. went for it and got 7. that is the differnce in this game.

Its a flat out difference in philosophy, mentality and attitude. Tressel plays it safe and is far too conservative. The vest speaks for itself. Especially considering the talent his team possesses. Imagine if say Nick Saban, Meyer, any of the Bowdens, Spurrier or even Pat Hill had the caliber of OSU's squad? My Trojans probably woulda lost by 2 TD's last night. Pete Carrol on the other hand leaves it all on the field on every down. It's an attitude of "My team is better than yours, I'm a better coach than you and I'll make sure you don't forget it." Forget that he goes on it on 4th down almost 50% of the time. How about the mere fact that he decided to have a true freshman command this team knowing he's 4 deep in QB's that could start anywhere else in th country? To measure Tressel vs Carrol is completely opposite in every aspect of college football.

 

[gynecologist]

Barkley didn't do a damn thing on that drive, or really the whole game. He will be a good QB and made some nice throws, but it makes me sick to just hear about nothing but him after the game.

Tressel is just too damn conservative and the losing in big games has gotten to his head. He chokes and fucks up easy decisions. Have to go for it on that 4th and goal (like USC did early) and you have to get at least 3 points on that last drive.

I agree. Barkley didn't win the game, if anyone did it was McKnight. He should be the one getting all the praise after the game.

 

[CoachLT]

If I was a university pres looking for a up and coming coach I would go interview Brian Kelley of Cincy. What is in Kelley's closet that he does not draw more interest? hno: LT

 

[Gravy]

If I was a university pres looking for a up and coming coach I would go interview Brian Kelley of Cincy. What is in Kelley's closet that he does not draw more interest? hno: LT

Coach LT,You bring up a great point because wherever Kelly has been a coach at he has won and he would be a good fit at Ohio State because I think with the recruits he could get to come to Columbus and his offensive mind the sky is the limit or anywhere that he would go to because I dont think he will be in Cincy too much longer coaching there.

 

[CoachLT]

Even with all the talent that PC gets, he seems to under achieve most years on one game. How else do you explain losing games to double digit dogs on a yearly basis?

Also USC does not put themselves at risk by having to play a conference champ game against a quality team. Pollsters give the edge to conference champ game winners over teams that do not play a champ game. With that being the case, USC has almost no room for error to be in the BCS Champ Game.

As a member of Gator Nation, I realize that IF Florida had NOT won the SEC Champ game, they would NOT have had the opportunity to play for the BCS National Championship. Risk vs Reward.

I can see a rematch with Alabama for the SEC Champ game. This years Bama team is markedly better than last years team. Gosh, how I LOVE COLLEGE FOOTBALL! :toast: LT

 

[gynecologist]

Its a mystery why Pete Carroll and the Trojans have those one bad games against inferior competition every season..

 

[CoachLT]

Coach LT,You bring up a great point because wherever Kelly has been a coach at he has won and he would be a good fit at Ohio State because I think with the recruits he could get to come to Columbus and his offensive mind the sky is the limit or anywhere that he would go to because I dont think he will be in Cincy too much longer coaching there.

Gravy, I have been amazed at how Kelley has won right out of the box everywhere he has coached. I would love to have him at Florida if Meyer left. Hopefully that would be a few years down the road.:toast: LT

 

[DHOS]

LMAO at the idiots on here.

Threads like these make me laugh when fans criticize coaches for not winning all the games.

Bank this, USC will blow a game this year and a PC one will pop up. It happened last year after USC lost to Oregon State.

Happened after Stoops lost to Florida.

Happened after Mack Brown lost to TT.

Honestly, I think great coaches get criticized more than average ones.