HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THIS SITUATION ??? --- I AM IN AN ETHICAL BIND

[DannyMay]

This is no more of a bad line then the ACES Gold NE + 14 1/2. The going line was 13 1/2, and as we all know that difference is HUGE in football.

Books put a line up -- I bet it. If they cancel before the game OK. If they let it stand until the outcome is known - the bet should stand no matter what.

 

[trytrytry]

this who mis line thing is pretty suspect also.

My thoughts are a misline (ie an honest error) is when an intitial number is posted that was typed in in error into the system. First number, typed in wrong that is a misline.

A first half number if it was typed in correctly at that time and then that line is drifting up is not a bad line, its a slow to move line or a line the book feels is not worth moving (Cascade does that sometimes and they are very sharp at it!). Did that first half line at other shops start at close to this books line and drift during the morning?

They owe you either case.

 

[DannyMay]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JimFiestSux:
Your bet should be graded as a win! Once it starts its official! 2 pts come on it seems like a scam line, win and not get paid or lose your money! A lose, lose situation! They should eat it if its a wrong line! Only a line off by 4 pts or more is a mistake! Seems like they baited some people and they screwed up!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Jim,

Totally agree. I say once it starts its official because they wouldnt let you back out after the outcome is known. If you accidentally bet $500 when you meant to bet $50 there is no way they will let you out of that bet if you waited until 1242. NO WAY.

 

[Ninja]

No that you've gotten all these opinions, name the book. I think we should all be aware of books who like to take shots.

 

[Alejocruz+]

Keep the money, a bet should be cancelled, if not before the game starts, before the outcome is known.

 

[DannyMay]

I dont belive this

I just got another email from the person who did the withdrawal. They say they will have to take a reduction in salary if the money isnt returned because it was their mistake.

This sounds like a story I am making up - but I swear this is all 100% true.

 

[DannyMay]

email I recieved


Dear Mr. May,

I am aware that this is an ethical dilema which is why rather than closing
out your account and demanding the money back, I made a very respectful
request which I hoped would speak to your honesty and integrity.

My expectations were that you would have contacted me by now in this regard
having realised that you did in fact receive an overpayment. If you do in
fact have an issue with us, please let me know what it is and I will be very
happy to address it to the best of my ability.

The money is not the main issue for me, it is one of principle. I would
willingly forfeit it even if it meant a deduction from my salary since it
was my mistake. I did not think that you should be penalised for my mistake
but rather offered you a graceful way to show that you are indeed a man of
integrity.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

[This message was edited by The General on January 26, 2004 at 03:05 PM.]

 

[JimFiestSux]

DannyMay,
Don't deal with this book anymore and name it please! Readers here want to know this scamming book! There mistake! DON'T SEND ANY MONEY BACK BUDDY! THEY PHUCKED YOU NOW ITS YOUR TURN TO PHUCK THEM!

 

[JimFiestSux]

If money is not the principle here then why is the clerk losing her salary to cover it! Sounds like BULL CRAP to me!

 

[DannyMay]

They were just trying to make me feel bad. I dont feel bad because I have lost a killing with that book and they still owe me $75.

 

[Payton]

Sounds British.

Look at the spelling of "penalised"

huh huh..she said penal.

 

[samardee]

DANNYMAY dont return nothing to this book.. it scmmed u out of a bet.. what goes around comes around.. tell that guy to go work for another sportsbook because this one isnt gonna last long if they have to deduct money from their csr's and cant even eat a $400 mistake. NAME THIS BOOK DannyMAY.. evryone needs to know who these guys are.

 

[lander]

" I would
willingly forfeit it even if it meant a deduction from my salary since it
was my mistake."

How would a student body put this? .. Um, I got it

BULL---------SHIT! BULL-----------SHIT!

 

[DannyMay]

The book has sent me an email saying the issue is now in arbitration and that everything will be worked out to my liking.

 

[Alejocruz+]

I think no one has sided with the book, the most people have done is tell you to take an ethical approach.
If you name the book now, we'll know who the shills are

 

[DannyMay]

General,

What is going on. I forwarded you all the emails but havent heard anything from you since. If its in arbitration, do I need to do anything else or just wait ? I have to go in 30 minutes, but will get back on later tonight.

 

[lurkerforages]

This book is a huge red flag.

Where are all the book workers who normally have a go at players who take a shot.

When a book takes a shot like this its obvious they are free rolling on you.

I have no doubt the bet would have stood if the game was going over.

This is one of the most interesting cases to come up in a long time.
Especially as YOU hold the money which is wonderfully ironic

I don`t think 2-3 points on a total is a bad line, thats just an opinionated line.
You can find 1-3 points differences on totals all day long.

What next, will books cancel a bet when a bet is half a point off.

I would never condone keeping any overpayments by a book but its very hard to feel sorry for this book.

The actions by this book smell of desperation and they should be "outed"

 

[LIFESABET]

In my opinion, the shop was undoubtedly taking a shot at you. When you placed that bet, did you check back before gametime to see what their new halftime total was? If they had changed it before gametime, then I would assume they were aware of your bet at that time. 500 on a halftime total is something that a bookmaker will see.

You did the right thing by pulling your balance, the best thing you can ever do is to not complain publically, try to resolve a matter with the book, and if you cannot have a resolution, then VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS. Nothing makes more of a statement than showing them that you will not do business with them.

If I were you, I would not yet push the 400 back to them. I would call them, and tell them to reopen your issue with them. Tell them that you felt they stole from you and thats why you decided to pull your money out. I would also be willing to start anew with this shop owner, to put every penny of the 400 back in, plus your entire balance. Ask them to put a note on your account about this issue. And tell them to credit your winnings back. At that point, you will have newfound respect with the shop, and they will have newfound respect for you because you will again be a player and they will again be honorable in your mind.

This is a rare occasion, where YOU ARE RIGHT, and you actually have the leverage that they would be using against you.

If they do not credit your account the full amount of the bet, then I would tell them that they are not getting their 400 dollar error back, tell them to stuff it in their pipe and smoke it, and sleep peacefully knowing that you did nothing wrong.

I normally do not promote this type of decision, and if you had accepted the 25 gift as full settlement, then you would be wrong not to give back the 400. However, it seems to me that you obviosly never aggreed to the 25 settlement, otherwise you would not have pulled your balance.

Best luck to you danny.
-lab

 

[TheGeneral+]

The arbitration process is in process and Always remember, there are two sides to every story.

I have been in contact with customer accounts and the wagering manager. The cooperation has been very well thus far and I am awaiting some further details. Resolution should be soon.

Good luck

 

[DannyMay]

Great, I have to go in 25 minutes.

There is only 1 side to this story.