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Have you ever cheated?

  • Yes and I regretted it

    Votes: 13 23.6%
  • Yes and I had no problem with it

    Votes: 15 27.3%
  • No but I have thought about it

    Votes: 12 21.8%
  • No and I never will

    Votes: 15 27.3%

  • Total voters
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In the "long run" your relationship sucked and it FAILED.
And it is NOT the correct environment to raise children in.
Why try to justify it?

I'm happy that my failed marriage can make you feel better about yours. So in that sense it's a partial success and you're welcome. In this day and age you've got 55% of marriages to make you feel better about yours also.
 

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I'm happy that my failed marriage can make you feel better about yours. So in that sense it's a partial success and you're welcome. In this day and age you've got 55% of marriages to make you feel better about yours also.
KB, dont even bother to reply to condescending non sense like that.

It's obvious someone is pretending to be happy and content with something he's not too thrilled about,
if you catch my drift.
 

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KB, dont even bother to reply to condescending non sense like that.

It's obvious someone is pretending to be happy and content with something he's not too thrilled about,
if you catch my drift.

Good point.
 

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Whew... for a while I thought this thread was going to be moved to the political forum.

leave the politics out of the rubber room dammit.
 

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what is the correct environment to raise children in? Is there an ideal one?

Could be that the child is better off for them divorcing rather than living in a home filled with anger and drama. Definitely could be the case.
Divorce doesn't = child-rearing gone bad.
Divorce does = relationship between two adults gone bad.



What about the stats among blacks. How many single parent households are there. That has to be a reason why all the inner cities in this country are shitholes. You can't tell me that "MOST" of the time a 2 parent household is way better than 1.

Single mothers are just breeding grounds for poverty and crime. Just the way it is.


My brother is a single parent BTW. He had to sacrifice a lot to raise his kid the right way.
 

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What about the stats among blacks. How many single parent households are there. That has to be a reason why all the inner cities in this country are shitholes. You can't tell me that "MOST" of the time a 2 parent household is way better than 1.

Single mothers are just breeding grounds for poverty and crime. Just the way it is.

My brother is a single parent BTW. He had to sacrifice a lot to raise his kid the right way.

There is HUGE difference between a Single Parent and two loving parents who no longer live together.
 

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There is HUGE difference between a Single Parent and two loving parents who no longer live together.


great poni King. That is so true. My brother was a single parent with the mother being a big scumbag whore. She left the kid at 8 months. My nephew was better off without her or her fucked up family.


At some point somebody in the family has to stop the poverty cycle.
 

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KB, dont even bother to reply to condescending non sense like that.

It's obvious someone is pretending to be happy and content with something he's not too thrilled about,
if you catch my drift.


You can draw whatever conclusion you want. I'm happy...doesn't matter too me if you know it or not.

But...thsi thread is about cheating. I'm giving my opinion on that. It is kind of scary that so many guys think it's okay.
 

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what is the correct environment to raise children in? Is there an ideal one?

Could be that the child is better off for them divorcing rather than living in a home filled with anger and drama. Definitely could be the case.
Divorce doesn't = child-rearing gone bad.
Divorce does = relationship between two adults gone bad.


Of course there is an ideal environment. A mother and Father that love each other and love the kids.

Secondl to that is a Mother and Father that Love their kids, even if there relationship is not great. That is better than divorce. As far as "anger and drama" are grown adults really so weak that the Kids have to know their problems? How about if Mom and Dad have some problems they keep that bullshit AWAY for the kids.

Divorce as a whole hurts children. A "good" father every other weekend and a week or two weeks during the Summer is a FAILURE compared to a good father that is in the House.
 

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KB, dont even bother to reply to condescending non sense like that.

It's obvious someone is pretending to be happy and content with something he's not too thrilled about,
if you catch my drift.


Just curious Rob are you married? Kids?
 

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Well like in any other thread you are entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't mean much here.

Actually, I give you credit. If you are a dog and know it, or if you really think everybody cheats, staying single is a good idea.

This stuff does drive me nuts. I really don't give a rats ass what grown adults to with their lives. But when kids are involved it does irk me. And the justifications drive me nuts.

When did having Morals, and passing Moral judgements become so bad?
 

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not disagreeing, obviously there is one ideal environment, but good luck keeping all the bullshit away from the kids. Kids aren't stupid.


I'd admit that I am in a great situation and after 15 years of Marriage I love my wife more than ever. But we fight, but keep it away from the kids. I don't think it has to be that kids are stupid.

My philosphy is a parents job is to love and protect their kids. Then comes their spouse. A very distant third is myself.

It's okay if you don't agree with this Philosphy, but if you don't you shouldn't get married in the first place...and you definately should NOT have kids.
 

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Of course there is an ideal environment. A mother and Father that love each other and love the kids.

Secondl to that is a Mother and Father that Love their kids, even if there relationship is not great. That is better than divorce. As far as "anger and drama" are grown adults really so weak that the Kids have to know their problems? How about if Mom and Dad have some problems they keep that bullshit AWAY for the kids.

Divorce as a whole hurts children. A "good" father every other weekend and a week or two weeks during the Summer is a FAILURE compared to a good father that is in the House.

Right there you are making assumptions with out knowing the story, I've taken my daughter to a child psychologist to make sure we're not messing with her head. The Docs have said she's never seen such a close father daughter bond and that includes "Fathers in the House" So please don't lump me in with the Jackass fathers who don't give a damn about how their kids are raised. I know there are a lot of those F*cks out there but I'm not one of them you FCS.
 

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I'm just going to throw out some food for thought.

If a child grows up in a household where they never witness their parents fighting, could it be that when they enter their own marriage they might consider fighting to be a sign of a failed relationship and end up getting divorced?

If a child grows up in a household where they witness their parents fighting, could it be that they think it is okay and end up in a dysfunctional marriage because they don't think it is a problem?

Point here being that none of you are right or wrong, but people like koidog think they have the be-all-end-all solution to the problem. Nobody does and nobody's going to have the perfect circumstances, so don't preach to anyone else when there are problems in your own household that you don't even know about (because everyone in it is an individual person with their own set or morals and issues that they don't share with everyone).
 

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Right there you are making assumptions with out knowing the story, I've taken my daughter to a child psychologist to make sure we're not messing with her head. The Docs have said she's never seen such a close father daughter bond and that includes "Fathers in the House" So please don't lump me in with the Jackass fathers who don't give a damn about how their kids are raised. I know there are a lot of those F*cks out there but I'm not one of them you FCS.

I'm not trying to just rip you bill. But the fact is you had a kid with a woman and decided having an open marriage was a great idea.

Do you do the best you can NOW that you made your bed? If you say you do I take it for your word.

But...the point is you aimed for failure from the begining. Had you tried, who knows? And your daughter..as great as she now is, would be MUCH better of if you and your wife were married and you were there for her 100% of the time.


As far as your Doc.... your seeing a shrink and he says you have the best bond he's ever seen. Think about that, what kind of fuck-ups do you think he normally sees.
 

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I'm not trying to just rip you bill. But the fact is you had a kid with a woman and decided having an open marriage was a great idea.

Do you do the best you can NOW that you made your bed? If you say you do I take it for your word.

But...the point is you aimed for failure from the begining. Had you tried, who knows? And your daughter..as great as she now is, would be MUCH better of if you and your wife were married and you were there for her 100% of the time.


As far as your Doc.... your seeing a shrink and he says you have the best bond he's ever seen. Think about that, what kind of fuck-ups do you think he normally sees.

I picture you as one of Ned Flanders' sons all grown up and being a dick.
 

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I picture you as one of Ned Flanders' sons all grown up and being a dick.

It's funny. I give an opinion that a Loving Marriage and parents staying married is GREAT for Kids. Bill has an open marriage, has a kid and has said marriage failed. Seems to have no remorse for that disaster.

And I'm a dick?
 

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It's funny. I give an opinion that a Loving Marriage and parents staying married is GREAT for Kids. Bill has an open marriage, has a kid and has said marriage failed. Seems to have no remorse for that disaster.

And I'm a dick?

You're not saying that shit, you're sitting here trying to attack the guy for the way he's led his life and made his decisions. If you told me to look at what my doctor said about my relationship with my daughter based on the fact that the doc deals with, as you so delicately put it "fuck-ups" then my friend I would consider you to be one of the biggest dicks I'd ever met.

You sit here and tell us all how it should be done, but your life isn't representative of anything in the world but you. You have no bearing on the lives of anyone else here, so stop preaching.
 

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