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Are you really this dumb or just cant understand simple math? The parlay was 40 to win 1400 so thats a 1440 swing. When he hit the first 5 plays that parlay essentially becomes a straight bet on the cowboys over. Assuming -110 odds that parlay becomes a 754 to win 685+ bet on the cowboys over. risk 754.29 to win 685.71 if you want to be exact. same 1440 swing. 754.29 is 18.85x the original bet of 40
 

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Are you really this dumb or just cant understand simple math? The parlay was 40 to win 1400 so thats a 1440 swing. When he hit the first 5 plays that parlay essentially becomes a straight bet on the cowboys over. Assuming -110 odds that parlay becomes a 754 to win 685+ bet on the cowboys over. risk 754.29 to win 685.71 if you want to be exact. same 1440 swing. 754.29 is 18.85x the original bet of 40
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keep the jokes coming pal......

ps its not the math that is cracking me up , it is the premise you base the math on that has me in stiches.......
 

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keep the jokes coming pal......

ps its not the math that is cracking me up , it is the premise you base the math on that has me in stiches.......
His premise checks out. What’s the problem?

All this probability talk and house odds and value. Is the probability of a 5 team parlay dependent or independent of the outcome of probability? What equation are we using here?

Hedge or not is an option towards the value of the dollar and each person would value things differently

All this house odds losing value BS would go right out the window the minute someone on here has a 12 teamer to win $200k off a $100 bet. Nobody on here let’s it ride talking why hedge off the bet it you liked it or your losing value on the odds it’s what the casino wants. All that nonsense goes out the window the minute anyone on here steps foot in that situation

It’s like betting a -285 ML with a -110 line for $20 to get +150 odds. Who bets $20 on a two teamer with a -285 fave? Probability factor into the equation the extra $10 won vs two outcomes becoming correct is silly by the laws of probability and odds.
 

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His premise checks out. What’s the problem?

All this probability talk and house odds and value. Is the probability of a 5 team parlay dependent or independent of the outcome of probability? What equation are we using here?

Hedge or not is an option towards the value of the dollar and each person would value things differently

All this house odds losing value BS would go right out the window the minute someone on here has a 12 teamer to win $200k off a $100 bet. Nobody on here let’s it ride talking why hedge off the bet it you liked it or your losing value on the odds it’s what the casino wants. All that nonsense goes out the window the minute anyone on here steps foot in that situation

It’s like betting a -285 ML with a -110 line for $20 to get +150 odds. Who bets $20 on a two teamer with a -285 fave? Probability factor into the equation the extra $10 won vs two outcomes becoming correct is silly by the laws of probability and odds.
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The decision to hedge or let it ride should be simple. In this case if you like the last leg of the parlay 19x more than the others then let it ride. If not then at least partially hedge it
Where do you guys get this stuff?

This couldn't be more false.

Once again this is why many online books have a buy-out option on parlays. They simply offer you a lesser amount then the expected value of where the parlay stands currently.

This isn't hard to understand.

edit: you are also implying to always hedge as who in their right mind is going to like something 19x more than something else. This is mathematically false and i don't even in the slightest understand the math you are using to come to this conclusion.
 

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The fact you guys are even making parlays when you so dead set on hedging---why even make the parlay? You already took stupid odds to make the parlay and now your going to add on even more by hedging?

If you're going to do this why not just straight bet? When you straight bet do all you guys hedge at halftime? As soon as your team takes a lead? As soon as you can pull any sort of profit? At what point is it silly to hedge for some of you?

This stuff is ridiculous if you're actually trying to make a profit and it's not just pure entertainment.
 

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The fact you guys are even making parlays when you so dead set on hedging---why even make the parlay? You already took stupid odds to make the parlay and now your going to add on even more by hedging?

If you're going to do this why not just straight bet? When you straight bet do all you guys hedge at halftime? As soon as your team takes a lead? As soon as you can pull any sort of profit? At what point is it silly to hedge for some of you?

This stuff is ridiculous if you're actually trying to make a profit and it's not just pure entertainment.
Thanks for more of your great insight and opinions! You always have the answer and correct way of winning via strategy. Look forward to more of your excellent handicapping advice as the write ups and plays you provide hit at a solid winning percentage.
 

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Thanks for more of your great insight and opinions! You always have the answer and correct way of winning via strategy. Look forward to more of your excellent handicapping advice as the write ups and plays you provide hit at a solid winning percentage.
Its simple math. Not an opinion. Nor does it have anything to do with handicapping skills.

With that said---anytime you want enter my arena---but you obviously will never put ur money where ur big mouth is, will you?

Now run along son or step up.
 

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Thanks for more of your great insight and opinions! You always have the answer and correct way of winning via strategy. Look forward to more of your excellent handicapping advice as the write ups and plays you provide hit at a solid winning percentage.
LOL bingo....
 

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Good thread, and like others have echoed it's an individual choice .krh , avocado,Christansen good posts I'm in your corner. No brainer for me ;

To not hegde implies the strategy of deploying 6-team parlays is a winner long term. ,don't interfere as you're eating into long term gains...ride out the strategy ,the ups and downs .That of course is untrue , a recipe to have capital at $0 very fast .

Anyone doing 6-team parlays are doing such for shits and giggles and when you have $500 or so locked in profit ? Not that tough a call, for me at least lol .That's a summer's worth of ProV1s fellas ..unless playing Sawgrass regularly. Bulls and bears make money, pigs get slaughtered

(Of course hedge or no hedge the long-term use of 6 - team parlays is for 'entertainment ' purposes ,echoing others )



Ya got robbed , 4 missed extra points? I'd have called 911...just sayin'
 

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Good thread, and like others have echoed it's an individual choice .krh , avocado,Christansen good posts I'm in your corner. No brainer for me ;

To not hegde implies the strategy of deploying 6-team parlays is a winner long term. ,don't interfere as you're eating into long term gains...ride out the strategy ,the ups and downs .That of course is untrue , a recipe to have capital at $0 very fast .

Anyone doing 6-team parlays are doing such for shits and giggles and when you have $500 or so locked in profit ? Not that tough a call, for me at least lol .That's a summer's worth of ProV1s fellas ..unless playing Sawgrass regularly. Bulls and bears make money, pigs get slaughtered

(Of course hedge or no hedge the long-term use of 6 - team parlays is for 'entertainment ' purposes ,echoing others )



Ya got robbed , 4 missed extra points? I'd have called 911...just sayin'
"Summers worth of ProV1s"...like it.
 

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Next time you're on the wrong end of a bet--lmk when the sportsbook/casino lets you buy-out to "secure their win" at -ev odds for them...

Jeesh. This isn't hard.
 

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Its simple math. Not an opinion. Nor does it have anything to do with handicapping skills.

With that said---anytime you want enter my arena---but you obviously will never put ur money where ur big mouth is, will you?

Now run along son or step up.
Its simple math. Not an opinion. Nor does it have anything to do with handicapping skills.

With that said---anytime you want enter my arena---but you obviously will never put ur money where ur big mouth is, will you?

Now run along son or step up.
Your arena? Lol

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen you provide anything betting wise.

Your one of the few clowns on here all up in folks business. I swear I think some ppl on here live on here 24/7. You and that fruit guy lovers quarrel. Fuckers on here talking about personal information. Who’s ghost is who, who lives where who works here. Fuck that. Never do a penny of business with a soul on here.

You dug up some post from some random dude months before NFL season who had a season total wager with another poster. Like the week it lost you over there bumping that thread. Who the fuck even remembered something from like July. Hell your trump betting fiasco on here was a shit show. We seen plenty of shady stories on here posters wager and shit go south. Fucking idiot doing that shit imo

Why bet vs you when Someone can easily bet from home or walk into a casino? What’s the point going through all that trouble trying to wager with someone ya don’t know. You been paid for your trump bets? Why bet with soo much confidence with other posters on here when you could have taken your confidence ass and bet it elsewhere and got paid? Or you just running off credit trying to get no money down action? Which means ya ain’t got the money and screams stiff. Willing to take a few grand in action confident trump don’t win but too stupid to go bet more somewhere with money in hand knowing ya get paid definitely if ya win.

I don’t need to step into your BS arena to prove anything. Proof is you don’t post any picks on your name. Nor do you have to. But the told ya so shit or after the fact is stupid. Who’s the Gas man guy who went 0-8 or something? Guess his picks suck but he posted em. Shit or not the man gave an opinion.

I’ve given my opinions plenty times on here. Forum sucks now so it’s irrelevant trying to talk games. Just a place to BS around now. Bozzie over there started a good thread week one Seattle vs Denver. Several folks in there gave opinions and good information either side. Nice civil debate. But soon as the season starts threads like that go dead.

Start a thread and enlighten us on your picks this week! Be the first to agree or maybe disagree with ya.
 

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Your arena? Lol

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen you provide anything betting wise.

Your one of the few clowns on here all up in folks business. I swear I think some ppl on here live on here 24/7. You and that fruit guy lovers quarrel. Fuckers on here talking about personal information. Who’s ghost is who, who lives where who works here. Fuck that. Never do a penny of business with a soul on here.

You dug up some post from some random dude months before NFL season who had a season total wager with another poster. Like the week it lost you over there bumping that thread. Who the fuck even remembered something from like July. Hell your trump betting fiasco on here was a shit show. We seen plenty of shady stories on here posters wager and shit go south. Fucking idiot doing that shit imo

Why bet vs you when Someone can easily bet from home or walk into a casino? What’s the point going through all that trouble trying to wager with someone ya don’t know. You been paid for your trump bets? Why bet with soo much confidence with other posters on here when you could have taken your confidence ass and bet it elsewhere and got paid? Or you just running off credit trying to get no money down action? Which means ya ain’t got the money and screams stiff. Willing to take a few grand in action confident trump don’t win but too stupid to go bet more somewhere with money in hand knowing ya get paid definitely if ya win.

I don’t need to step into your BS arena to prove anything. Proof is you don’t post any picks on your name. Nor do you have to. But the told ya so shit or after the fact is stupid. Who’s the Gas man guy who went 0-8 or something? Guess his picks suck but he posted em. Shit or not the man gave an opinion.

I’ve given my opinions plenty times on here. Forum sucks now so it’s irrelevant trying to talk games. Just a place to BS around now. Bozzie over there started a good thread week one Seattle vs Denver. Several folks in there gave opinions and good information either side. Nice civil debate. But soon as the season starts threads like that go dead.

Start a thread and enlighten us on your picks this week! Be the first to agree or maybe disagree with ya.
LOL.

i bet here for -100(no juice). I know you don't understand that...

When Vit was making his air bets and i asked him to post his bets to prove it and he refused I posted all mine for around 3 weeks. Would never ask anyone to do what i wouldn't...

If you think i am a stiff or broke then you're just ignorant.

If you want my plays then we can go against one another and you will get them. That simple.
 

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Your arena? Lol

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen you provide anything betting wise.

Your one of the few clowns on here all up in folks business. I swear I think some ppl on here live on here 24/7. You and that fruit guy lovers quarrel. Fuckers on here talking about personal information. Who’s ghost is who, who lives where who works here. Fuck that. Never do a penny of business with a soul on here.

You dug up some post from some random dude months before NFL season who had a season total wager with another poster. Like the week it lost you over there bumping that thread. Who the fuck even remembered something from like July. Hell your trump betting fiasco on here was a shit show. We seen plenty of shady stories on here posters wager and shit go south. Fucking idiot doing that shit imo

Why bet vs you when Someone can easily bet from home or walk into a casino? What’s the point going through all that trouble trying to wager with someone ya don’t know. You been paid for your trump bets? Why bet with soo much confidence with other posters on here when you could have taken your confidence ass and bet it elsewhere and got paid? Or you just running off credit trying to get no money down action? Which means ya ain’t got the money and screams stiff. Willing to take a few grand in action confident trump don’t win but too stupid to go bet more somewhere with money in hand knowing ya get paid definitely if ya win.

I don’t need to step into your BS arena to prove anything. Proof is you don’t post any picks on your name. Nor do you have to. But the told ya so shit or after the fact is stupid. Who’s the Gas man guy who went 0-8 or something? Guess his picks suck but he posted em. Shit or not the man gave an opinion.

I’ve given my opinions plenty times on here. Forum sucks now so it’s irrelevant trying to talk games. Just a place to BS around now. Bozzie over there started a good thread week one Seattle vs Denver. Several folks in there gave opinions and good information either side. Nice civil debate. But soon as the season starts threads like that go dead.

Start a thread and enlighten us on your picks this week! Be the first to agree or maybe disagree with ya.
Lastly. I have seen you and your long posts giving out your worldly opinion as if you have a clue about anything...

Trust me, you don't. You don't even understand simple stats and probabilities. Yet you claim to understand much more complicated areas in life. Give me a break.

Anytime you want to gamble against me in any form you just lmk little fella.

But you're just a big mouth with nothing to back it up.
 

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LOL.

i bet here for -100(no juice). I know you don't understand that...

When Vit was making his air bets and i asked him to post his bets to prove it and he refused I posted all mine for around 3 weeks. Would never ask anyone to do what i wouldn't...

If you think i am a stiff or broke then you're just ignorant.

If you want my plays then we can go against one another and you will get them. That simple.
Nah I understand you perfectly well by your almighty math powers! -100 no juice is amazing. I also understand that no juice strategy got you shit on and ya didn’t get paid on some winning bets. So yeah, those paper IOU -100 bets are stupid and I am able to understand very well.
 

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Will Z and Xander to win masters! Give me them two and Fred to T30. I’ll take the bad back crew for 2023
Id love to see Xander! can move it both ways, and esp comfortable drawing it-favorable at Augusta

Z has the length and hits his irons crazy high , great for those ice fast greens. dont like his short game at Augusta, same for Hovland

GL

not sure whom im taking, too early for me
 

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Id love to see Xander! can move it both ways, and esp comfortable drawing it-favorable at Augusta

Z has the length and hits his irons crazy high , great for those ice fast greens. dont like his short game at Augusta, same for Hovland

GL

not sure whom im taking, too early for me
Remember last summer , I think it was during the Open or shortly after about grabbing Tom Kim at 100/1 for all 4 majors. 125/1 @ the Open. Can't get half those price now.
 

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