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The Duke Lacrosse accuser was just one single accuser. One victim isn't a pattern. Sandusky has a shit load of victims coming out of the woodwork saying they were molested and a witness seeing Sandusky cornholing some kid in the showers. Presidents, AD's and worshiped coaches don't get fired for trying to cover up the actions of a soon to be found innocent person.

What's the difference between having sex with a 10-year-old boy or an underage girl Hosnatcher? I'm sure you can provide a unique perspective on this topic.
 

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I consider myself intelligent enough that I dont need 12 idiots from PA to let me know if he's guilty or not - I know he's child anal rapist

Come on man...he was just Horsing Around
 

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Michael Jackson wasn't? I think he was.

Mike Jackson had a life-sized, anatomically correct blowup doll of a Cub Scout.

If "I" was caught with a life-sized, anatomically correct blowup doll of a female porn star, the first thing everyone would think is, "I bet he's fucking that thing every goddamn night".



And they would be right

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Michael Jackson wasn't? I think he was.

You're definitely not alone. He had his day in court and beat the charges. Many famous childhood stars, "Corey Feldman, Corey Hain, Maikey Caukin" to name a few, stand by this man as a great friend and totally harmless towards kids. Many friends have said he was a very good father.

Dude, maybe you need to open your mind just a bit. Michael never was allowed to act like a child. He was performing for adults at a very young age. His father was an ass, pushed him hard.

Maybe, just maybe he built never, never land to enjoy some childish times that he wasn't allowed to when most kids are. Maybe, just maybe he wanted to make sure other kids benefitted from normal kid activities.

Closed minded people will disagree and say no way. He was accused so it must be true.

Too each his own.
 

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Mike Jackson had a life-sized, anatomically correct blowup doll of a Cub Scout.

If "I" was caught with a life-sized, anatomically correct blowup doll of a female porn star, the first thing everyone would think is, "I bet he's fucking that thing every goddamn night".



And they would be right

--Ron White, Tater Salad

Nice analogy. Try not to overwork that open mind of yours! LOL
 

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You're definitely not alone. He had his day in court and beat the charges. Many famous childhood stars, "Corey Feldman, Corey Hain, Maikey Caukin" to name a few, stand by this man as a great friend and totally harmless towards kids. Many friends have said he was a very good father.

Dude, maybe you need to open your mind just a bit. Michael never was allowed to act like a child. He was performing for adults at a very young age. His father was an ass, pushed him hard.

Maybe, just maybe he built never, never land to enjoy some childish times that he wasn't allowed to when most kids are. Maybe, just maybe he wanted to make sure other kids benefitted from normal kid activities.


Closed minded people will disagree and say no way. He was accused so it must be true.

Too each his own.

I thought Michael was a pedophile and was guilty and was diappointed when he beat the rap. Who else but a pedophile would have hung around kids and slept in the same bed as them?

However, I heard the theory that Michael was a eunuch so that he would always retain his high voice. I know that sounds quite harsh but I wouldn't put it past old Joe.

If true, Michael would never have grown up. He would always be a little boy. When we were little boys we hung around little boys because we were so much alike. Michael would have hung around those most like him because he undoubtedly was pushed around by all the adults he knew.

He would never had molested the boys because he would not have had a sex drive.

His kids look nothing like him. And how could they if he had his nuts cut off?

In this vein I could see how he wasn't a pedophile but was just a person who never matured.
 

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I thought Michael was a pedophile and was guilty and was diappointed when he beat the rap. Who else but a pedophile would have hung around kids and slept in the same bed as them?

However, I heard the theory that Michael was a eunuch so that he would always retain his high voice. I know that sounds quite harsh but I wouldn't put it past old Joe.

If true, Michael would never have grown up. He would always be a little boy. When we were little boys we hung around little boys because we were so much alike. Michael would have hung around those most like him because he undoubtedly was pushed around by all the adults he knew.

He would never had molested the boys because he would not have had a sex drive.

His kids look nothing like him. And how could they if he had his nuts cut off?

In this vein I could see how he wasn't a pedophile but was just a person who never matured.

Dude, Nice Try!

Michael may very well have had a low sex drive. But I wouldn't assume that's why he wasn't a pedophile.

To me it sounds like you implying that you don't sleep in the same bed as a kid is because you wouldn't be able to control your sexual urges. Well not ever body is as weak as you. Low or high sex drive it doesn't matter, many adults know what is right and wrong.

People with high sex drives can sleep in the same bed as child but that doesn't mean they what to molest or have sex with them. Sleeping in a bed with a child doesn't make you a pedophile. It may not be accepted but it happens and no crimes have to take place.

I believe Michael wasn't a pedophile because he knew it would be wrong and I assume he didn't have any urges.

Kids personalities and behavior may have made Michael's life more fulfilling and enjoyable, this doesn't make him a criminal or a pedophile. If he was a pedophile it would have be proven.
 

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What's the difference between having sex with a 10-year-old boy or an underage girl Hosnatcher? I'm sure you can provide a unique
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Enfuego you are such an annoying little girl. I was kinda hoping you were in jail or hell or something since I haven't seen you hijack any of my posts in a while.

What is the difference of selling a dime bag of weed to a neighborhood friend as opposed to trafficking and distributing large amounts of heroin?

You can't compare a 50 year old man who fucks 10 year old kids in showers to a couple of teenagers one of which is under 18 and the other which is over 18.

Sorry if I am in the minority who thinks that it is more perverse for a 40 year old adult to date an 18 year old adult than an 18 or 19 year old to date a 13-16 year old. During the teenage years some people are mature for their age and some people are immature for their age. Some people are early bloomers and some people are late bloomers.
 

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To me it sounds like you implying that you don't sleep in the same bed as a kid is because you wouldn't be able to control your sexual urges. Well not ever body is as weak as you. Low or high sex drive it doesn't matter, many adults know what is right and wrong.

Don't try to put words in my mouth and color my reputation. Your words couldn't be further from the truth. How would you feel if I accused you of liking little boys because you're showing so much interest in this topic? See how it is to have the shoe on the other foot?

It had nothing to do with me since I don't sleep with young boys. Not because I would be tempted but because I have no interest.

The point I was trying to make was that when we hear of an adult male sleeping in the same bed as young boys we tend to think it's sexual in nature. This is because most of the time it is. I was stating that in Michael's case, if he was castrated, then it wouldn't have to be sexual in nature.
 

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Enfuego you are such an annoying little girl. I was kinda hoping you were in jail or hell or something since I haven't seen you hijack any of my posts in a while.

What is the difference of selling a dime bag of weed to a neighborhood friend as opposed to trafficking and distributing large amounts of heroin?

You can't compare a 50 year old man who fucks 10 year old kids in showers to a couple of teenagers one of which is under 18 and the other which is over 18.

Sorry if I am in the minority who thinks that it is more perverse for a 40 year old adult to date an 18 year old adult than an 18 or 19 year old to date a 13-16 year old. During the teenage years some people are mature for their age and some people are immature for their age. Some people are early bloomers and some people are late bloomers.

For those that don't know, Hosmolester is an admitted rapist and thinks little girls are just "late bloomers." Guy is a creep and a child molester.
 
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"In his grand jury testimony, McQueary wrote only that he talked to his father, football coach Joe Paterno, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz about what he witnessed in 2002.

"But in the email, McQueary said he did tell police as well: "I did have discussions with police and with the official at the university in charge of police"

http://espn.go.com/college-football...rd-penn-state-mike-mcqueary-reporting-assault
 

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Quantumleap,

My apologies for putting words in your mouth. I'm just tired of dealing with closed minded people all the time. I'm not saying your closed minded but I didn't like your analogy and I don't think Michael was castrated.

What I do know is everybody is different. Michael is different than you, your different than me, etc,etc. I'm confident Michael wasn't a pedophile. He was aquitted of the last charges against him. I would think it would be very easy to convict Michael if he did commit these monsterous crimes. But he didn't and he was aquitted.

Dr. Drew had a friend of Michael's on his show last night. This guy was introduced to MJ when he was 5 by his father. Michael was 25-35 at the time. This guy wrote a book called "My Friend Michael". He seemed very credible and he states Michael didn't have sex with boys. Many other famous people who were friends of Michael's also say Mike didn't have sex with boys. But the sad thing is a lot of the public think he's was a pedophile. How do you explain this.

I'm just trying to explain and educate closed minded people that everybody is different. It may not be normal for an adult to have sleep over's with kids, but is it a crime, is it abuse? Does it make you a pedohile? I don't think so!
 

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It's called piling on. There have been reports that 2 dozens victims have come forward. This is false. Now McQuery credibility is in question. This whole epidsode is getting stranger and stranger. Why didn't the victims parents go to the police imediately.

Jerry may be guilty, but too many people are rushing to judgement he deserves his day in court. If he committed these crimes it should be easy to prove.
 

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piling on?

I think for those of us that have not been victimized, it would be a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT to question how and when victims come forward, and what that means. I would imagine that the victims have denied what actually happened, even to themselves.
 

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piling on?

I think for those of us that have not been victimized, it would be a RUSH TO JUDGEMENT to question how and when victims come forward, and what that means. I would imagine that the victims have denied what actually happened, even to themselves.

I'm just saying that there have been media reports of around 2 dozen victims have come forward and many more possible. I've heard from other reporters that these reports are totally false. That there is no where near that many victims that have come foward. Piling on is a term this reporter used. In other words the amount of victims that have come forward is being exagerated.

Don't get me wrong, I saw the Bob Costas interview and he may very well be a sick person. But how could McQuery stay quiet after witnessing a 50 year coach sodomizing a 10 year old boy in the locker room shower. How could Mcquery come to practice day in and day out knowing this and looking Mcquey in the eyes. Why wasn't more done?
 

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Quantumleap,

My apologies for putting words in your mouth. I'm just tired of dealing with closed minded people all the time. I'm not saying your closed minded but I didn't like your analogy and I don't think Michael was castrated.

What I do know is everybody is different. Michael is different than you, your different than me, etc,etc. I'm confident Michael wasn't a pedophile. He was aquitted of the last charges against him. I would think it would be very easy to convict Michael if he did commit these monsterous crimes. But he didn't and he was aquitted.

Dr. Drew had a friend of Michael's on his show last night. This guy was introduced to MJ when he was 5 by his father. Michael was 25-35 at the time. This guy wrote a book called "My Friend Michael". He seemed very credible and he states Michael didn't have sex with boys. Many other famous people who were friends of Michael's also say Mike didn't have sex with boys. But the sad thing is a lot of the public think he's was a pedophile. How do you explain this.

I'm just trying to explain and educate closed minded people that everybody is different. It may not be normal for an adult to have sleep over's with kids, but is it a crime, is it abuse? Does it make you a pedohile? I don't think so!

Everything you posted here could be right. You're looking at it from an open mind because your viewpoint is a different one from mainstream.

But my post mentioned another possibility. I don't know if it's true. But I posted another viewpoint from the mainstream. That by definition makes me open minded.
 
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Enfuego you are such an annoying little girl. I was kinda hoping you were in jail or hell or something since I haven't seen you hijack any of my posts in a while.

What is the difference of selling a dime bag of weed to a neighborhood friend as opposed to trafficking and distributing large amounts of heroin?

You can't compare a 50 year old man who fucks 10 year old kids in showers to a couple of teenagers one of which is under 18 and the other which is over 18.

Sorry if I am in the minority who thinks that it is more perverse for a 40 year old adult to date an 18 year old adult than an 18 or 19 year old to date a 13-16 year old. During the teenage years some people are mature for their age and some people are immature for their age. Some people are early bloomers and some people are late bloomers.

Nice reply Hosnatcher. Oh, except for the part where you forgot to admit that you've already bragged in here about being 22 and dating a 15 year old.

But that's not as bad as you bragging that you fucked a 13 year old when you were 19.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=816280&highlight=hosnatcher
 

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Nice reply Hosnatcher. Oh, except for the part where you forgot to admit that you've already bragged in here about being 22 and dating a 15 year old.

But that's not as bad as you bragging that you fucked a 13 year old when you were 19.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=816280&highlight=hosnatcher

Whoopty Whoop I dated a couple of younger girls when I was a young adult. I guess you can crucify me like Jesus Christ. I wonder what ever happened to those young girls I dated. I wonder if they spent countless hours on the shrinks couch discussing how they never had a chance in life because they liked older guys when they were a teenager.

One thing I do know for a fact is EVERY single girl that has ever dated in high school dated their fare share of older guys. That includes peoples mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. It is just a common fact. My brother in law who is 8 years older than my sister started dating my sister when she was 16 years old and they have been married for almost 15 years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah its against the law in certain states to date a teenager if you are over 18 yourself. The asterisk is the DA only tries to prosecute if the parents don't consent. So yes when I was younger I dated a couple of teenage girls with their parents consent. In fact the 15 year old that you were referring to that I dated was a Marines daughter who lived in a secured military housing with her family. Both her parents loved me and in fact the MP's that guarded the gates and the housing knew our age difference and didn't give a shit about it. Everytime I went to her house I had to show my ID at the gate and tell them who I was there to see and what my relation was to her.

Now that I am 36 years old I have no interest in dating anybody that is even still in college because there isn't enough common ground. But if I was to have a teenage daughter I would keep an open mind if she dated somebody over 18 and if my son was over 18 and he dated a younger girl so be it.

Now Festering Zit both you and Enfuego can go fuck yourselves. You can continue talking your shit all while hiding behind your IP address. The internet serves as a great vehicle for you types to talk loud on an open forum without the threat of getting a few teeth knocked out.
 
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Whoopty Whoop I dated a couple of younger girls when I was a young adult. I guess you can crucify me like Jesus Christ. I wonder what ever happened to those young girls I dated. I wonder if they spent countless hours on the shrinks couch discussing how they never had a chance in life because they liked older guys when they were a teenager.

One thing I do know for a fact is EVERY single girl that has ever dated in high school dated their fare share of older guys. That includes peoples mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. It is just a common fact. My brother in law who is 8 years older than my sister started dating my sister when she was 16 years old and they have been married for almost 15 years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah its against the law in certain states to date a teenager if you are over 18 yourself. The asterisk is the DA only tries to prosecute if the parents don't consent. So yes when I was younger I dated a couple of teenage girls with their parents consent. In fact the 15 year old that you were referring to that I dated was a Marines daughter who lived in a secured military housing with her family. Both her parents loved me and in fact the MP's that guarded the gates and the housing knew our age difference and didn't give a shit about it. Everytime I went to her house I had to show my ID at the gate and tell them who I was there to see and what my relation was to her.

Now that I am 36 years old I have no interest in dating anybody that is even still in college because there isn't enough common ground. But if I was to have a teenage daughter I would keep an open mind if she dated somebody over 18 and if my son was over 18 and he dated a younger girl so be it.

Now Festering Zit both you and Enfuego can go fuck yourselves. You can continue talking your shit all while hiding behind your IP address. The internet serves as a great vehicle for you types to talk loud on an open forum without the threat of getting a few teeth knocked out.

I'm not talking shit, and I'm not hiding. All I did was point to another post of yours where you bragged about your kiddie conquests. If you're so proud of yourself, why are you now threatening me for pointing out your previous post?
 

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If any of you have read the 23 page indictment and think this guy might be innocent, then you aren't very smart.
 

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