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GoS,

I am pretty new to these forums and have tailed quite a few of your picks this year. yeah, we have had a slow start, but just from what I read here, and the respect you seem to get from everyone, I will continue to follow your picks.

This has been the worst year starting year for me in college football ever. Like others have said, teams just seem to be a lot more even in college now. I am trying to understand it myself. It seems like every game I like goes the complete opposite way.:think2:

I love your write ups and insights so keep 'em coming. You get it all back !
fonz...This week will be a little different than the previous weeks because I'm using my running dogs as my main handicapping tool in these games. Whereas I really haven't played them in the first 3 weeks because I didn't really have enough data to back me up.. So I'm going more by the numbers now. I would prefer to have a full month of games played before I play the PRB's, but I really have no choice since the other way isn't working. This has been a down year for the majority of the cappers I know. But hang in there. Maybe it will turn around. There is a lot of parity in college football this year. But in the last 4 or 5 weeks of the season the cream always rises to the top with these teams. And we'll know much more about them then. My advice to you if nothing else is working is stick with the good coaches. They are the ones that will make you the most money in the end.
 

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I am very interested to see how this system works. and ha, who are we kidding, this year the teams that are supposed to get killed end up winning or covering anyway.

BOL - I'll be riding the sooner tails.
 

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Purdue +8.5 is a game of the year type wager. Notre Dame has ZERO defense and now they lost their best player, Michael Floyd. Keep in mind that Notre Dame was only favored over Purdue by 1 last year in South Bend. The true gap between these teams is very small. The public perception of the gap is much larger than reality. Pound the Boilers, and that is coming from a Notre Dame graduate...

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Have you been looking at my "gold" sheet? hahaha. Just playing with ya my man. When I read your post, I was like, "damn, this guy stole my play." I love love love Purdue in this spot. It has all the makings of a so-called "PLAY OF THE YEAR". Public perception is low on Purdue & always high on ND. Purdue is a rushing dog, and at home mind you. I wouldn't mind laying something on the moneyline for Purdue. Aloha from Hawaii.
 

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Have you been looking at my "gold" sheet? hahaha. Just playing with ya my man. When I read your post, I was like, "damn, this guy stole my play." I love love love Purdue in this spot. It has all the makings of a so-called "PLAY OF THE YEAR". Public perception is low on Purdue & always high on ND. Purdue is a rushing dog, and at home mind you. I wouldn't mind laying something on the moneyline for Purdue. Aloha from Hawaii.

I think ND has a 50/50 chance of winning the game at best. Notre Dame has been terrible on the road under Weis. Excellent play for sure. It will be my underdog play of the week when i get around to starting a new thread this week.
 

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Probable Running Dogs (PRD) Odds are from Sunday Night

South Carolina(+3.5)....Definitely a PRD Def playing this game.
Nevada (+7)...Young Mizzou QB making his first true road trip out of Missouri against a team playing their first home game.
Boston College (pickem) I like this also, but not as much as others.
Wyoming (+5.5)...Bad offense, good defense. Steer clear of Wyoming. I've been watching & bet against them last week. They are horrid. I saw UNLV play. I would say UNLV or nothing bro. Just my opinion.
Purdue (+7.5) Notre Dame is OVERRATED. But Purdue isn't that good either. I love love love this game this week.
Louisville (+11.5) Good running backs, played Kentucky tough last week.
Oregon (+7) This team is starting to look much better. Broke Utah's 13 game winning streak. Had a good rushing offense/defense ratio in that game. Team is in their comfort zone playing their third straight home game. Cal is on their second straight road game. Familiarity of conference foes could make this a close game. Another game I really like. You forgot to mention that Cal has USC next week for a possible lookahead scenario.
Bowling Green (+15) Boise's defense last week away from the blue turf didn't impress me. Experienced BG QB Sheehan could keep this closer than expected. Plus BG defense actually playing well despite all of the new starters.


Right now I've got leans with Oregon, Oregon State, South Carolina, Nevada, Michigan State, Iowa, ULM, Miss. St., Bowling Green, Georgia

I think you are on the right track my friend. I've been making money the last two saturdays. I hope we can all make money this week as well as this year. Hopefully we share the same picks this week. This is what I'm playing on this week... Thoughts?

Purdue +8
Miss St. +14
Oregon +7
BC +3
So. Miss +14
Army +10

GL and aloha from Hawaii.
 

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I disagree on VT. Miami is gonna win easy. VT's defense doesn't look that great this year. If The U has a weakness its on kickoff coverage, but tyrod is too shitty to make plays against the miami defense.
 

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Purdue +8
Miss St. +14
Oregon +7
BC +3
So. Miss +14
Army +10

GL and aloha from Hawaii.

Oh my god, BC is a home dog to Wake Forest? That is absurd. I totally missed that one on first glance, thought BC was favored by 3. That is a certain play, possibly max bet.
 

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Oh my god, BC is a home dog to Wake Forest? That is absurd. I totally missed that one on first glance, thought BC was favored by 3. That is a certain play, possibly max bet.

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Glad I could be of service to you. Aloha from hawaii.
 

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No offense. If I were you, I would take a week or two off. Make paper bets. Refresh your mind. Develop your own opinion. Quit listening to others. Trust me, I have been there. Good Luck
 

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No offense. If I were you, I would take a week or two off. Make paper bets. Refresh your mind. Develop your own opinion. Quit listening to others. Trust me, I have been there. Good Luck
BP...I've thought about it since I would like to get 4 weeks of play from these teams before I start using my rushing stats. But I'm going to go very light this week anyway.
 

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Needless to say this looks bad. Last week I had a perfect week going 0-7. Which has never happened to me before. The only thing I broke even on was my small totals plays. I'm still hoping for the one good week where I can recover most of my losses. Hopefully it will come soon. I usually don't dust off my running dogs and get them out until a month into the season. But desperate times calls for desperate measures. And the running dogs have been on an incredible run for the last 3 weeks. This is first time that I can ever recall in college football where the dogs have covered as much as the favorites in the early weeks. Last week the favorites finally came out on top going 37-26. But if you take out their FCS games it ended up 26-25. So this is a very strange season. And because of the unusually high amount of parity in college football this season it's made it hard on many of the handicappers like myself who likes to play many situational angles in the first few weeks of the season. Last week I thought teams like Arkansas, Baylor, Nevada and KSU had perfect situations to win or cover their games. And in previous years these kinds of teams have come through for me. But college football just isn't going by the book this year.

I'm not putting in any plays yet, but I am going to do the running dogs list this week that I'm going to choose my games from. Naturally I'm not going to use all of these because their difficulty of schedule hasn't been determined yet. I'll also have a few running favorites, which I may add to later in the week.

Probable Running Dogs (PRD) Odds are from Sunday Night

South Carolina(+3.5)....Definitely a PRD
Nevada (+7)...Young Mizzou QB making his first true road trip out of Missouri against a team playing their first home game.
Boston College (pickem)
Buffalo(+2.5)
Michigan St.(+2.5)
TCU (+2.5) This is a tough game because Clemson does have a stout DL. However, their offense despite moving the football well against BC, never did score an offensive TD. All FG's. So obvious redzone problems vs good defense.
Fresno St (+14) Has Cincy lost all of their line value after last week's win? Fresno has a strong OL.
Miss.St. (+14) LSU is overrated. Les Miles is a bafoon who is the Forrest Gump of college football who happened to be in the right place at the right time to win a BCS title with 2 losses. MSU ran the ball well against a stout Vandy defense.
Marshall (+3)
UAB +15..Good running team but a bad defense
Wyoming (+5.5)...Bad offense, good defense
Colorado St. (+14.5)...Possible BYU hangover? Very good and experienced CSU OL.
Va Tech (+1.5) Is Miami's defense as good as the Huskers? Blacksburg is a very hostile enviornment for new QB's. VT has better defense than Miami's first 2 opponents GT or FSU.
Purdue (+7.5) Notre Dame is OVERRATED. But Purdue isn't that good either.
Louisville (+11.5) Good running backs, played Kentucky tough last week.
Iowa (+10)..Penn State offense is overrated.
Oregon State (+2.5)..Zona does have a decent running game, but their QB play was pretty dreadful in their first road trip. Plus the Gronk is out for the season.
ULM (+5)..They were the running dogs last week against ASU and didn't cover. But are taking a big drop in class as dogs again this week.
Troy(+1.5)..This is a tough one because Arky St. is also a good running team.
North Texas (+7.5) Status of injuried QB Riley Dodge?
FIU (Pick)
Oregon (+7) This team is starting to look much better. Broke Utah's 13 game winning streak. Had a good rushing offense/defense ratio in that game. Team is in their comfort zone playing their third straight home game. Cal is on their second straight road game. Familiarity of conference foes could make this a close game.
Northwestern (Pick)..Minny is not a good running team. Now going back out on the road.
Bowling Green (+15) Boise's defense last week away from the blue turf didn't impress me. Experienced BG QB Sheehan could keep this closer than expected. Plus BG defense actually playing well despite all of the new starters.


Running Favorites (Small list but I'll probably add to it later)

Vanderbilt (-8) Vandy taking a big class drop from their last 2 games. More reasonable line. Much better defense.
East Carolina (-9.5)...EC taking a class drop from their last 2 games
Georgia (-12) Georgia taking a class drop from their first 3 games. ASU can't run the ball and going on the road for the first time.
Stanford (-7) Washington coming off a big emotional win over USC and now hitting the road for the first time against a very solid running team.


Right now I've got leans with Oregon, Oregon State, South Carolina, Nevada, Michigan State, Iowa, ULM, Miss. St., Bowling Green, Georgia

I can certainly sympathize...I've been doing this for about 15 years and have never had a season this bad. It's like I'm in bizarro world. keep plugging...
 

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Sooners.. any thoughts on Arkansas @ Alabama -15.5?
I have a slight lean to Arkansas. But I expect Bama to do what Georgia did and shut down the Hogs rushing game. I've always had a problem with Bama covering these DD spreads. They aren't exactly a team that is built to cover big numbers. Especially in conference play. Bama is great against the run, but the one decent passing team they played FIU put up over 200 yards passing on them. So Mallet will probably have enough success to make the game interesting for awhile.
 

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GS: This is just a thought but the days of the running dogs may be numbered because of the explosiveness of the spread offense. Now days you do not have to have a "great" QB because a "good" one can hit a wide open receiver and they eat up chunks of yards that take much longer to do running. If a running dog gets behind when playing a team with an effective QB and some better than avg receivers then their fate is generally sealed once they get behind. It used to be that teams would slack off when they got a lead and it seems to me back door covers used to be more common. Look at OU LY, who were not known for good ATS records and they, like many others, do not take the foot off of the pedal.
They do not put themselves into the position of letting a running dog get back into the game. In other words, the successful spread teams determine the pace of the games now, not the running dogs. I started noticing and appreciating the spread for what it truly is when Fl St and Miami hooked up in week one. Neither QB was heralded and until that game I would say that they received about as much negative as positive on most of the forums by posters. As coaches like Mark Whipple etc are provided talented athletes they can totally embarrass an opponent because it is almost impossible to contain the spread. Look at the NFL, the scores are way up and those guys on defense are the best in the world. It is the nature of the spread and the evolution of the game of football. Cold weather, rain, etc. can be a factor from time to time, but the days of the running dogs may be coming to an end. I know how hard you study and I know you take pride in your handicapping. I, like you, am slow to change but I am begining to see the light. Defense is still important, and I firmly believe that defense can make the difference. Rushing the passer and putting pressure on him is the key to disrupting the timing of the spread. I watched the TCU/Virginia game and Virginia tried to do it the old way and with 4 minutes to go decided to throw caution to the wind and let her fly. Result, 2 TD's, one for over 50 and one for over 20yds. The next week they improved a little more. It is a sign of the times and like Dylan said "the times they are a changin". BOL.
 

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GS...When i find myself in the Same spot, which i am...Sad but true!!!I do one of two things...First i reduce the amount of plays, next i reduce the wager size. Sometimes i "think" it helps in many ways. When it turns around, and it will, when is Always the question at hand at this time??? Then back to a few more plays.....Just me!!
BOL as Always!!

obtw You were DEAD RIGHT when you said the Longhorns have been strongly "out pointed" this year.......so far!!! This could help when the Sooners come south?
 

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Purdue +8
Miss St. +14
Oregon +7
BC +3
So. Miss +14
Army +10

GL and aloha from Hawaii.

Like most of your plays, but i think Mississippi State is the weak link. This is the least amount of points LSU has given to Mississippi State in several years, and to be honest, this is probably one of the worst Bulldog teams the school has fielded in some time. With LSU now under a two touchdown favorite, i think LSU may be the play here, and i normally don't see much value on road favorites, but this is one of those rare times.
 

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GS, I am inclined to agree with your Oregon pick... but guardedly so. I bet most people here had already given them up for dead. On the flipside, I have to say that stats notwithstanding, Masoli has looked uncomfortable and has appeared to be rushing things a bit. But that new kid LaMichael James has thus far proven himself beyond expectations. If that keeps up, this wager could be gold. Who needs Blount anyway? The UFC?

I think the running dogs angle may kick in strong very soon. In your defense and perhaps mine too, I have never seen dogs cover at the rate they have this early in the season. Parity is a mofo to recognize this early, isn't it? Just look at how well our favorite dog bettor has been doing... none other than CW.

I wish you luck bro.
 

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GS what are your thoughts on Illinois vs. Ohio St. -14.5?

The Illini defense is about 20 times worse than I thought they would be and they are taking the shape of that old Illini defense I used to fade all the way to the bank.

I'm sure you already saw how good this defense made Mizzou look in week one. Well, in week two it looked worse. Illinois St. who was starting their back-up QB put up over 300 yards passing on the Illini D and moved the ball with ease. This was the same Illinois St. offense that got shut down by freaking Eastern Illinois in week one.

I know they play OSU tough usually but they also usually play OSU before the Michigan game and that has always helped the Illini's cause. This year OSU has Indiana on deck and will have the 2007 home loss still fresh in their mind.

Bottom line, I think OSU rolls here by a minimum of 20 points but I'm curious what your thoughts are.
 

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GS: This is just a thought but the days of the running dogs may be numbered because of the explosiveness of the spread offense. Now days you do not have to have a "great" QB because a "good" one can hit a wide open receiver and they eat up chunks of yards that take much longer to do running. If a running dog gets behind when playing a team with an effective QB and some better than avg receivers then their fate is generally sealed once they get behind. It used to be that teams would slack off when they got a lead and it seems to me back door covers used to be more common. Look at OU LY, who were not known for good ATS records and they, like many others, do not take the foot off of the pedal.
They do not put themselves into the position of letting a running dog get back into the game. In other words, the successful spread teams determine the pace of the games now, not the running dogs. I started noticing and appreciating the spread for what it truly is when Fl St and Miami hooked up in week one. Neither QB was heralded and until that game I would say that they received about as much negative as positive on most of the forums by posters. As coaches like Mark Whipple etc are provided talented athletes they can totally embarrass an opponent because it is almost impossible to contain the spread. Look at the NFL, the scores are way up and those guys on defense are the best in the world. It is the nature of the spread and the evolution of the game of football. Cold weather, rain, etc. can be a factor from time to time, but the days of the running dogs may be coming to an end. I know how hard you study and I know you take pride in your handicapping. I, like you, am slow to change but I am begining to see the light. Defense is still important, and I firmly believe that defense can make the difference. Rushing the passer and putting pressure on him is the key to disrupting the timing of the spread. I watched the TCU/Virginia game and Virginia tried to do it the old way and with 4 minutes to go decided to throw caution to the wind and let her fly. Result, 2 TD's, one for over 50 and one for over 20yds. The next week they improved a little more. It is a sign of the times and like Dylan said "the times they are a changin". BOL.
Russ... When I get out the newspaper on Sunday morning and read the weekends box scores I'm still seeing the teams who ran the ball better either covering the majority of the games or winning outright. OU was an overwhelming team last year. But HALF of the reason for this was because they were able to rush for 208 ypg behind Murray and Brown. The spread is a great offense IF you have good line that can protect a QB operating out of an empty or near empty set. And if you have a good Percy Harvin type open field runner it helps. But if a team knows they can stop your running game with just their 4 DL up front, the rest of defensive backfield can hang back and keep all of the plays in front of them. You've GOT to have a good running game to keep a defense honest. You've also got to be able to stop the run. Miami has a much better run stop defense this year (only 103 ypg this year to 153 last year). This is why they are having more success. Jacory Harris is having a great season. But without that run defense he wouldn't have seen nearly as much of the field this season. Miami is also doing better rushing the ball this year (137 ypg compared to 122 last year). The possibilty of a run threat is also keeping defenses honest and giving Harris more time back there. Even Texas Tech, who started most of this spread stuff 10 years ago, hasn't had the success they've had when they were unable to run the ball. Last year they were still able to average 115 ypg rushing despite throwing the ball all over the place. This year they are averaging only 28.7 ypg rushing. Luckily they have a better defense this year and are giving up only 89 ypg rushing. Take Texas. They only had 137 rushing on Texas Tech (averaged 177 last year and why they didn't cover the spread) and Colt McCoy found himself running around more and trying to do too much himself against that Tech defense. Which was the big reason why he threw for only 200 yards (100 yards below his passing average last year). And it all started with the rushing game. Or lack of it. Going back to GT/Miami. GT is primarily a rushing team and they got outrushed by Miami 184-95! Off of this stat alone I didn't even need to see the final box score to see who covered in this game.
 

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