Sooners, you flatter me. I come to you for my college picks! Yes, I suspect Dooley to leave for greener pastures as soon as LaTech makes a bigger splash. I mean, look at Chizek's rise to stardom!
Gyno! Glad to be back! Look for me in the pro side, where I hope to have another winning season.
GL all!
Gyno! Glad to be back! Look for me in the pro side, where I hope to have another winning season.
GL all!
glenrobinson...Let's make this season a profitable one.:toast:
AA...These threads just wouldn't be the same without you chiming in..As always I wish you the best this season.
ouguy...I wish I was going down there with ya. But I hate the idea of lining Jerry Jones pockets with my money. Be sure to order the $60 pizza.
Pags, my young grasshoppa, the football season has now arrived. I'll be talkin' to you soon.
AA...These threads just wouldn't be the same without you chiming in..As always I wish you the best this season.
ouguy...I wish I was going down there with ya. But I hate the idea of lining Jerry Jones pockets with my money. Be sure to order the $60 pizza.
Pags, my young grasshoppa, the football season has now arrived. I'll be talkin' to you soon.
Here is an update of what I have so far:
Notre Dame -13.5 ***
Minnesota -6.5 ***
Colorado -11 **
Oregon +5.5 **
Georgia +6 **
Arizona/CMU (UNDER 55) **
I heard something about Zona TE Gronkowski being out for this game. Which is even worse than OU losing Greshman since Zona didn't have that many offensive weapons to begin with. The under is looking very good here as long as the Zona defense can keep Lefevour semi-contained.. You can't get 55 anymore. But I still think it's worth a shot at 54.5
Notre Dame -13.5 ***
Minnesota -6.5 ***
Colorado -11 **
Oregon +5.5 **
Georgia +6 **
Arizona/CMU (UNDER 55) **
I heard something about Zona TE Gronkowski being out for this game. Which is even worse than OU losing Greshman since Zona didn't have that many offensive weapons to begin with. The under is looking very good here as long as the Zona defense can keep Lefevour semi-contained.. You can't get 55 anymore. But I still think it's worth a shot at 54.5
GS, I havent seen you say anything about VT. Tyrod Taylor has his own team this year with Glennon gone. Evans is out, defense is great and its still beamer ball. My personal opinion is Tyrod Taylor, with or without Evans, can get it done against bama. ive never seen Beamer have trouble with creating a replacement, by that i mean a step in for Evans. I have a hard time believing VT doesnt cover, if not outright win. Your thoughts?
linebets...I've got 3 teams on my radar that I'm looking at very close right now. And that is Va Tech, Wake Forest and La Tech. I like VT because I feel that they have the personnel to compete with Bama in the trenches. If they can play even up there then I think we'll see a close low scoring game. Plus Beamer coached teams are always very sound teams that usually don't beat themselves by mistakes. Which bodes well in low scoring games like this one is anticipated to be. And this soundness is why VT is 11-3 ATS as dogs or a pickem in the last 5 years. And 4-0 ATS as dogs or pickems on a neutral field the last 5 years. They play very well in this role.
VT D stats
Here's an interesting stat on Bud Foster's performance against new QBs since 2004.
*** TOTALS FOR 26 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH FEWER THAN 10 CAREER STARTS BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those 26 quarterbacks combined for 307 of 603 passing (50.9 percent) for 3,572 yards, 14 TD, 33 INT, 63 sacks; 257 rushes for 435 yards (1.7 ypc), 4 TD, 21 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those 26 games was 137.4 yards passing, 16.7 yards rushing, 0.69 total TD, 0.81 fumbles, 1.27 interceptions and 2.42 sacks.
*** TOTALS FOR 18 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH SIX CAREER STARTS OR FEWER BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those 18 quarterbacks combined for 216 of 415 passing (52 percent) for 2,520 yards, 11 TD, 22 INT, 54 sacks; 212 rushes for 360 yards (1.7 ypc), 4 TD, 17 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those 18 games was 140.0 yards passing, 20.0 yards rushing, 0.83 total TD, 0.94 fumbles, 1.22 interceptions and 3.0 sacks.
*** TOTALS FOR 9 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH TWO CAREER STARTS OR FEWER BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those nine quarterbacks combined for 88 of 185 passing (47.6 percent) for 1,111 yards, 6 TD, 8 INT, 20 sacks; 101 rushes for 298 yards (2.95 ypc), 4 TD, 7 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those nine games was 123.4 yards passing, 33.1 yards rushing, 1.1 total TD, 0.78 fumbles, 0.89 interceptions and 2.2 sacks.
Here's an interesting stat on Bud Foster's performance against new QBs since 2004.
*** TOTALS FOR 26 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH FEWER THAN 10 CAREER STARTS BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those 26 quarterbacks combined for 307 of 603 passing (50.9 percent) for 3,572 yards, 14 TD, 33 INT, 63 sacks; 257 rushes for 435 yards (1.7 ypc), 4 TD, 21 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those 26 games was 137.4 yards passing, 16.7 yards rushing, 0.69 total TD, 0.81 fumbles, 1.27 interceptions and 2.42 sacks.
*** TOTALS FOR 18 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH SIX CAREER STARTS OR FEWER BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those 18 quarterbacks combined for 216 of 415 passing (52 percent) for 2,520 yards, 11 TD, 22 INT, 54 sacks; 212 rushes for 360 yards (1.7 ypc), 4 TD, 17 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those 18 games was 140.0 yards passing, 20.0 yards rushing, 0.83 total TD, 0.94 fumbles, 1.22 interceptions and 3.0 sacks.
*** TOTALS FOR 9 GAMES SINCE 2004 AGAINST QBS WITH TWO CAREER STARTS OR FEWER BEFORE PLAYING VIRGINIA TECH ***
* Those nine quarterbacks combined for 88 of 185 passing (47.6 percent) for 1,111 yards, 6 TD, 8 INT, 20 sacks; 101 rushes for 298 yards (2.95 ypc), 4 TD, 7 fumbles.
* The average for a quarterback in those nine games was 123.4 yards passing, 33.1 yards rushing, 1.1 total TD, 0.78 fumbles, 0.89 interceptions and 2.2 sacks.
Great stats Tiger..I'm still dumbfounded why or how Bud Foster has not been hired as a head coach somewhere. The guy is amazing considering the second tier talent that many years he has to work with. Something else about Bama that i don't like very much going into this season is they won 9 games ATS last year. And as I've stated here many times before, the chances of a team repeating that feat is very small. Just like NCST tonight. They won 9 games ATS last season. All as dogs. And the first game they are made the favorite in they lost tonight. This stat really does mean more than people think it does. You start losing your line value when you win ATS too much. And Bama is a very public team that now has high expectations put on it despite losing a couple jumbo size linemen to the NFL, along with the QB you elaborated on among others on offense.
GS: The intesity in the S Car/NC State was high but Oregon stunk it up and Boise St was not impressive and probably in the end this victory will not wind up being a big deal. Oregon is much worse than I ever imagined and Kelly looked like he took a punch before the bell sounded himself. He looked like a deer in the head lights. Masoli looked like a freshman and it was not just the offensive lines fault either. I think that based on this game there will be a big Georgia backing the next couple of days as people are going to mistakingly take the quantum leap that OSU is overrated based on the bowl game results. I also think that the Ore/Boise St game will fire Tulsa up as they have to think they have a great chance against Boise St based on what they showed tonight. They should be fired up for Tulane and their chance to show their stuff on national TV.
You're not kidding. This was as boring an opening night as I can remember. Oh well, like I said, I'll take bad college football over good baseball or basketball.
GS, do you not believe that Gresham was worth a point or two on the spread? It's bizaar to me because he's Bradford's security blanket. Instead of having a half to get warm and dump some passes off to the best tight end in the country, OU is now gonna have to throw the young WR's straight into the fire. I obviously am in the minority on thinking that it will take a bit for OU to find it's rhythm. But I think especially now that Gresham won't be dressed. And after watching tonight's poor offensive showings, I think even the OU's Texas's and Florida's will have some slow starts. The unders are looking good for a small play. Especially these totals in the 60's.....
Russ. I'm curious to see which way the Georgia/OSU line moves until Saturday. Like I said before, Georgia appears to have the edge with their lines, and OSU clearly has the edge in skill players. It's just a matter of where these two meet in the middle. If the crowd doesn't bother the Dawgs new QB, we should have a great game. After what I saw of Oregon and Boise tonight, it's pretty obvious that neither of these two teams were BCS material. Tell you the truth, this doesn't look like a good year for non-bcs teams to make a BCS game. Some team might get it by default. But with the schedules that each of them have this season, I don't really see any of them running the tables. As for Tulsa, they could be the real deal this year if they get the right QB in there. But they would still have to get by OU in Norman to have any shot at a BCS game. I don't think so. By the way, i don't think OSU is overrated. Just overhyped. There is a difference. They are still as good and probably better than last year. But every move they make will now be under a microscope. And they won't be getting any help with the lines. You think last year's team would have been favored in this first game over georgia?
jb..Actually, I think losing Greshman really hurts OU. But how much it's worth on the line is anybody's guess, because I really don't know how much better or worse OU is this year until I see them play. Although it is very doubtful, their new OL could turn out to be a dud like Oregon's rebuilt OL was tonight. Masoli looked awfully good last year when he had somebody blocking for him. A QB is only as good as his line. So Bradford might struggle a little bit more at the beginning and get his jersey dirtied a few more times. Personally, I'm hesitant to put any money down on OU this season after winning 10 games ATS last year. You just can't repeat those kinds of numbers. So I'll have to really pick my spots carefully with the Sooners this year. And this really isn't a good spot to be betting on them..
GS, i have followed you for a while. what do you think about the under in the tulsa/tulane game? i know tulsa was among the highest scoring teams in the FBS last year but this year they do not have a set starting QB to lead the offense. Also, I don't think tulane will score more than 10 pts. I am thinking 42-10 and an easy under. Thoughts?
