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I really like Notre Dame. And I'm keeping my bet small on Georgia/OSU. Until OSU gets a defense and actually proves they can beat a good team under Gundy, I'm not going to back them.

PERFECT, short and sweet summary on OSU right here. If OSU beats UGA and I lose my money, it'll almost be okay with me as OSU will have turned the corner, but, until then, hammer the team that comes from the strongest conference getting points. Everyone can talk about how "bumpin" Boone Pickens Stadium will be, but that'll only get Gundy more nervous. I'm telling you, that guy isn't a D-1 coach. He's an offensive co-ordinator, and he needs to go back to that. He's the only thing keeping OSU back these days. I can't believe Pickens can't see this?.....
 

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PERFECT, short and sweet summary on OSU right here. If OSU beats UGA and I lose my money, it'll almost be okay with me as OSU will have turned the corner, but, until then, hammer the team that comes from the strongest conference getting points. Everyone can talk about how "bumpin" Boone Pickens Stadium will be, but that'll only get Gundy more nervous. I'm telling you, that guy isn't a D-1 coach. He's an offensive co-ordinator, and he needs to go back to that. He's the only thing keeping OSU back these days. I can't believe Pickens can't see this?.....
Stillwater won't be anything that Georgia hasn't seen before. Those SEC stadiums can be more intimidating. And we already know what kind of record that Richt has on the road. If OSU has turned the corner on defense despite losing 5 starters from a team that gave up 28 ppg, then good for them. But they'll have to prove it to me.
 

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Georgia (+6) over OSU **

I'm starting to see this line creep down a little so I went ahead and got it at +6. I would like to have seen a 7, but I think this number is history. I explained earlier in my thread why I like Georgia. One simple reason is the obvious. We have a proven powerhouse with Georgia who had a better record than OSU in 2008 with more starters coming back than OSU in 2009. Will the absence of Stafford and Moreno hurt Georgia? Yes. Will the absence of Pettigrew (possibly the best TE in the country last season) and Bowman hurt the OSU passing game? I would be surprised if it didn't. What it comes down to for me is the sum of each teams parts. And with the slate VHT players that Richt has recruited from his consistent top 10 classes, that Georgia can plug in easier than OSU..

Where I think they are going to be much stronger is on defense. 2008 was a very rare year where Richt had a defense that didn't perform up to his standards. Although allowing 320 yards per game was still very good. And a lot of teams would give their left nut to be that good. OSU probably for one, who gave up 410 ypg on defense. The thing that makes me think Georgia is a possible SEC/National title contender is the high amount of injuries this team suffered last season to some key players on both sides of the ball. They now have 15 starters returning, including many of those injured players. Remember, this team was rated preseason number one at the beginning of last season. With good reason. There is a lot of talent on this team who this season, as opposed to last season, is flying much more under the radar in 2009. Always a good thing in my opinion. Especially for covering these kinds of spreads where they are the rare dog. OSU on the other hand is new to this highly ranked game. They are number #7 in the preseason poll. Their highest ever that I can remember. And in Gundy's fifth season have still never covered when favored over a ranked team. Richt is 30-4 SU in true road games.

What this game comes down to is the superior offensive and defensive lines of Georgia vs the skill players of OSU. Georgia owns the lines in this game. OSU owns the skill players, although i think there are some VHT players on the Georgia side who I feel are going to emerge in this game. The majority of the time I'm going to side with the team with the better defense getting points. And although OSU now has Bill Young as their DC. One of the best DC's in the country, I don't think he's going to have them playing like Bama right out of the gate. But OSU's defense will be improved this year. Which keeps me from making this a bigger play. But I do think that Zac Robinson is going to miss his TE Pettigrew. Not only a great outlet receiver for Robinson, but he was also a good blocker. I also think that Bowman was a top notch receiver for OSU last season. And an excellent go to receiver for Robinson along with Dez Bryant. He's now gone and Robinson really doesn't have a great second target to take Bryant's spot. With a great run game, OSU has the potential to be as good offensively as last season. But I'm not sure they are going to come out from the beginning and be as potent as they were last year without these key playmakers who are now playing in the NFL. So the Pokes have lost their share of players too. What I think it's going to result in is a little lower scoring game than what is anticipated. And if Georgia can keep OSU out of the 30's here I think they have a good chance to win this game outright. At any rate, a TD is a lot of points to be giving to a proven SEC power team.

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Who's Bowman?? if you're thinking of Adarius Bowman he left 2 years ago...
you can't be thinking of bo bowling can you?? he wasn't even a starter and only caught 5 passes in B12 games...

Either way, best of luck this season!!
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GS. Thanks for all your help so far. I will definitely be paying attention to your threads, as I'm still learning.

Couple games I was looking at, and just wanted to get your thoughts on these bigger spreads:

-Utah -20.5 vs Utah State
-Stanford -17 @ Washington St
-Cal -21.5 vs Maryland
-Nebraska -22.5 vs Florida Atlantic

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Miami +6 @ Florida St

If you get time, let me know what you think of these. Just short and sweet.

Thanks GS:103631605
 

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Who's Bowman?? if you're thinking of Adarius Bowman he left 2 years ago...
you can't be thinking of bo bowling can you?? he wasn't even a starter and only caught 5 passes in B12 games...

Either way, best of luck this season!!
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Bowman was two years ago. So that was my bad. But OSU still is left with the same problem of not having a second receiver this season. Maybe one will emerge. But the sudden departures and dismissals of their projected best recruits will probably hurt them early on.
 

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GS. Thanks for all your help so far. I will definitely be paying attention to your threads, as I'm still learning.

Couple games I was looking at, and just wanted to get your thoughts on these bigger spreads:

-Utah -20.5 vs Utah State
-Stanford -17 @ Washington St
-Cal -21.5 vs Maryland
-Nebraska -22.5 vs Florida Atlantic

Also:
Miami +6 @ Florida St

If you get time, let me know what you think of these. Just short and sweet.

Thanks GS:103631605
For Utah/Utah St. I'm not sure that Utah State is ready for the big boys just yet. Up to now they still haven't been competetive at all against the better teams, especially Utah in the past. I would be more apt to take the favorite in that game. In this first week of the season, when I start seeing the lines get up to 17-26 points I start looking for the favorites to cover. The favorites have a high percentage of covers in the first week with these lines. When the lines start getting into the 30's or more I start looking a little more to the dogs to cover. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.

Stanford at -17 is starting to look like a good play. A team bringing back a very good offensive line and running game vs a defense who loses their starters off of a bad rushing defense is a deadly combination. I personally hate giving double digits on the road unless it's a BCS power team who has proven they can cover the DD spreads on the road in the past. But I do think Stanford has a great chance to cover that number because I don't see any improvement out of WSU this season from last..

Cal -21.5 vs Maryland...I like Cal. And I'm still considering this team for a play.

Nebraska vs FAU...This is another game where one team had a good rushing game last year playing a team who loses almost all of their starters from one of the worst rushing defenses in the country last season. The only thing that's holding me back with this game is the Huskers loss of Castille as their second RB. I think he would have been a good compliment to Helu in the backfield. And although I'm hearing good things about him, I still don't know how new QB Zac Lee is going to perform in his first game. Plus I don't like that this line keeps creeping up. If it goes back down to 21 or less I might play it.


Florida St./Miami..I really haven't looked in depth at this game so I'm not qualified to give any advice here. One thing that kind of sticks out to me is the totals fror this game being 48.5..I know these teams have scored a lot of points on each other in the last couple of years. But those were both midseason matchups. Whenever these teams play in the first week of the season the scoring has always been very low. In the 3 years before that the scores have been 16-10, 10-7 & 13-10. And neither of these two QB's look like they're going to be the strength of their teams. So this could be another hard fought defensive battle to start the season. Just my two cents.
 
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For Utah/Utah St. I'm not sure that Utah State is ready for the big boys just yet. Up to now they still haven't been competetive at all against the better teams, especially Utah in the past. I would be more apt to take the favorite in that game. In this first week of the season, when I start seeing the lines get up to 17-26 points I start looking for the favorites to cover. The favorites have a high percentage of covers in the first week with these lines. When the lines start getting into the 30's or more I start looking a little more to the dogs to cover. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.

Stanford at -17 is starting to look like a good play. A team bringing back a very good offensive line and running game vs a defense who loses their starters off of a bad rushing defense is a deadly combination. I personally hate giving double digits on the road unless it's a BCS power team who has proven they can cover the DD spreads on the road in the past. But I do think Stanford has a great chance to cover that number because I don't see any improvement out of WSU this season from last..

Cal -21.5 vs Maryland...I like Cal. And I'm still considering this team for a play.

Nebraska vs FAU...This is another game where one team had a good rushing game last year playing a team who loses almost all of their starters from one of the worst rushing defenses in the country last season. The only thing that's holding me back with this game is the Huskers loss of Castille as their second RB. I think he would have been a good compliment to Helu in the backfield. And although I'm hearing good things about him, I still don't know how new QB Zac Lee is going to perform in his first game. Plus I don't like that this line keeps creeping up. If it goes back down to 21 or less I might play it.


Florida St./Miami..I really haven't looked in depth at this game so I'm not qualified to give any advice here. One thing that kind of sticks out to me is the totals fror this game being 48.5..I know these teams have scored a lot of points on each other in the last couple of years. But those were both midseason matchups. Whenever these teams play in the first week of the season the scoring has always been very low. In the 3 years before that the scores have been 16-10, 10-7 & 13-10. And neither of these two QB's look like they're going to be the strength of their teams. So this could be another hard fought defensive battle to start the season. Just my two cents.

I appreciate the input! I agree on the Utah, Stanford, and Cal. And thanks for opening my eyes to thing I wasn't paying attention to on Nebraska. And the Miami under is interesting.

Thanks GS:dancefool
 

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GoSooners - I can only get Oregon at +4.5, do you still like them at this number?
I appreciate all your info and knowledge. I have been following you and this forum for the past 2 seasons, just never posted. Good Luck, really like your card so far this week.
 

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GoSooners - I can only get Oregon at +4.5, do you still like them at this number?
I appreciate all your info and knowledge. I have been following you and this forum for the past 2 seasons, just never posted. Good Luck, really like your card so far this week.
Since I like Oregon to win the game outright, yes I still like the number. At this point I would even consider betting them on the ML. Here are some interesting numbers that sdf brought up in this thread earlier that would favor just playing Oregon on the ML.


Since 1981 only 42 times has a favorite of less than a TD in GAME 1 won the game but lost ATS. And only 12 times in this decade has it occured. And it didn't happen at all last year.


If the favorite is less than 6 points in GAME 1 it's only happened 25 times in the past 27 years and only 6 times this decade.


So I'm pretty much in agreement here that you either lay the points or take the dog on the ML. Although I got a fairly decent number at 5.5, if it had been this low I would probably have taken Oregon ML. But it's always better to be safe than sorry just in case one of those rare close games happen.
 

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Since I like Oregon to win the game outright, yes I still like the number. At this point I would even consider betting them on the ML. Here are some interesting numbers that sdf brought up in this thread earlier that would favor just playing Oregon on the ML.


Since 1981 only 42 times has a favorite of less than a TD in GAME 1 won the game but lost ATS. And only 12 times in this decade has it occured. And it didn't happen at all last year.


If the favorite is less than 6 points in GAME 1 it's only happened 25 times in the past 27 years and only 6 times this decade.


So I'm pretty much in agreement here that you either lay the points or take the dog on the ML. Although I got a fairly decent number at 5.5, if it had been this low I would probably have taken Oregon ML. But it's always better to be safe than sorry just in case one of those rare close games happen.



GS, thanks for the input. Good luck this week.
 

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I just read today where Jamal Mosley, a sophomore who would have been Okie State's starting tight end this season taking the place of Pettigrew, has left the team for personal reasons. On OSU's depth chart this week Mosley was listed as starter for Saturday's season opener with Georgia. But on Tuesday morning Gundy comfirmed that Mosley, a native of Memphis, Tn. is leaving the program. Gundy said "there will be no further comment on this matter". Sophomore TE Wilson Youman is expected to be promoted to the starting position.
 

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Florida St./Miami..I really haven't looked in depth at this game so I'm not qualified to give any advice here. One thing that kind of sticks out to me is the totals fror this game being 48.5..I know these teams have scored a lot of points on each other in the last couple of years. But those were both midseason matchups. Whenever these teams play in the first week of the season the scoring has always been very low. In the 3 years before that the scores have been 16-10, 10-7 & 13-10. And neither of these two QB's look like they're going to be the strength of their teams. So this could be another hard fought defensive battle to start the season. Just my two cents.

This was my exact thought as well on this game. People forget about how these 2 teams usually play in week one before they get the kinks out of their offensive game plan. Miami's young QB is still going to get a pretty conservative play book, especially early in the season and I see a lot of running plays in this one. Their top RB is out now which could be the icing on the cake. Miami's D showed some flashes last year and I think will start to turn the corner this year. As far as Florida St., when was the last time Mickey Andrews didn't have a solid unit? May look closer at the 1st half under too.
 

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This was my exact thought as well on this game. People forget about how these 2 teams usually play in week one before they get the kinks out of their offensive game plan. Miami's young QB is still going to get a pretty conservative play book, especially early in the season and I see a lot of running plays in this one. Their top RB is out now which could be the icing on the cake. Miami's D showed some flashes last year and I think will start to turn the corner this year. As far as Florida St., when was the last time Mickey Andrews didn't have a solid unit? May look closer at the 1st half under too.

I'll comment on FSU. Their OL is prob one of the best in the nation and majority of them are sophomores. Watch out for a RB by the name of Jermaine Thomas as he is the starting RB. last year he avg ruffly about 7yds a carry and wasn't the starter. he ended up with about 500 yds on the yr on 70 attempts and hes was a freshman. I can only think that this running attack is going to cause problems for Miami and will open up the passing game for Ponder who is only a junior this year. With a better OL line this year Jimbo fisher said the he will open up the playbook a bit more. My prediction for what its worth will be FSU since its in tally but this game will be close. Also Cooper Miami star RB will not be playing as he is injured.
 

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I read a girl filed a restraining order against him and with the marijuana charges earlier this summer I think he needed to get himself together...too bad for the kid...
 

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I just read today where Jamal Mosley, a sophomore who would have been Okie State's starting tight end this season taking the place of Pettigrew, has left the team for personal reasons. On OSU's depth chart this week Mosley was listed as starter for Saturday's season opener with Georgia. But on Tuesday morning Gundy comfirmed that Mosley, a native of Memphis, Tn. is leaving the program. Gundy said "there will be no further comment on this matter". Sophomore TE Wilson Youman is expected to be promoted to the starting position.


I'm here to tell you guys that the ground is crumbling under Gundy's feet. He closed his practices to the public and media the day after Pickens announced he thinks this is the best chance for OSU to go 11-0 heading into Bedlam. Gundy DOES NOT know how to deal with this pressure. There's guys getting in trouble all over the team. Again, I'll be eating crow if OSU shows up, but I just don't see it. I personally would take UGA at pick'em, because I think they're going to win straight up, but giving me 6? It seems like a very good bet.
 

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