GoSooners Big 12 Plays Of The Week For 11-22

Search

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Any yahoo can cap Texas Tech vs. OU, GS, show some skills and cap the Apple Cup! For me, this game is like a car wreck, these two teams are so bad, I want to see the game. I like UW -7.5, yeah they are 0-10 but they played a much tougher schedule, OU, BYU and Notre Dame, they didn't get to chalk one up against Portland St. I think the kids in purple play hard for Willingham in his last game. IMHO I thought UW would open at -13 or -14.
Considering how the season has gone, by all rights Washington should win and cover this spread...But I keep hearing the words of an OU defensive player after the Sooners played UW earlier this year. He said UW was probably the least physically intimidating BCS team that he had ever seen. So I'm afraid the cupboard is pretty much empty with this UW team..They just haven't recruited well for a few years there..And it's caught up with them..Same goes for WSU...The rule i usually follow when two losers play each other is to just throw the spread out and play the ML if you play it at all..Or probably what would be best for these two anemic offenses is to just play the under.
 

come strong or dont come at all
Joined
Nov 21, 2006
Messages
5,453
Tokens
wadup GS. Im personally making this a best bet. This is setting up perfectly. 7...why 7. makes you want to think. My line has OU favored by 10.. being 3 to the home team. Everybody I mean everybody here has TT. They keep saying TT will beat the crap out of OU. Man this is my creedo for college as well as NFL foots..the one with the RB that can pound and grind the yards in the 4th will be victorious...I mean OU has 5 in their stable with murray being the workhorse IMO. I believe OU will pound the ball on the somewhat undersized TT front 7 and keep on pounding them until it hurts. Dont get me wrong, but TT also can run, but scat backs imo. gl GS im rid'n wit ya on this one.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
wadup GS. Im personally making this a best bet. This is setting up perfectly. 7...why 7. makes you want to think. My line has OU favored by 10.. being 3 to the home team. Everybody I mean everybody here has TT. They keep saying TT will beat the crap out of OU. Man this is my creedo for college as well as NFL foots..the one with the RB that can pound and grind the yards in the 4th will be victorious...I mean OU has 5 in their stable with murray being the workhorse IMO. I believe OU will pound the ball on the somewhat undersized TT front 7 and keep on pounding them until it hurts. Dont get me wrong, but TT also can run, but scat backs imo. gl GS im rid'n wit ya on this one.
Cash & jb....If I decide to take OU on a ML play, I will make it a 4 star play...But I won't give a TD to TT and make it a Best Bet...There's just too much of a chance of a backdoor cover.
 

come strong or dont come at all
Joined
Nov 21, 2006
Messages
5,453
Tokens
especially with crabtree in the mix. but im not worried. hopefully that is
 

New member
Joined
Dec 21, 2004
Messages
191
Tokens
Sooner-

OU will be my only wager for CFB this weekend-Win or lose-
Good Luck my friend-Thanks for the write ups/analysis.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Vanderbilt (-3) over Tennessee **
For those who are still waiting for the Vols to come out of their funk and get a win over a halfway quality opponent, you'll probably have to wait until next year...This team is still living off of it's name to be 3-7 and still only be a 3 point dog to a good well coached bowl eligible Vandy team... This week the Vols will be playing a defense that is better than the Wyoming defense that held the Vols to 7 points last week. Plus Vandy has a now healthy QB Nickson as the duo threat wildcard in this game that should be enough to get the job done and get them their 7th win here... The big road win over Kentucky to become bowl eligible should have given Vandy plenty of confidence coming into this game. As for Tennessee, they haven't won a game on the road all year. I don't expect them to start here..Fulmer is still experimenting around with his offense. And this week he decided he's going to start redshirt freshman Coleman at QB...All I can say is good luck with that..To me it looks like a shot in the dark for an offense that looks to be very lost.. And at this point it's obvious Fulmer doesn't care..He's already expressed his desire to coach at another school...What does that tell you about his focus on this team? Give me the better coached Vandy team who still has something to play for.
 

New member
Joined
Nov 18, 2008
Messages
7
Tokens
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CJVILLA%7E1%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:punctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle15 {mso-style-type:personal; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> The last 3 opponents for OU has an average points allowed per game of 34.8 and OU managed 62 points on average TTU’s last 3 teams averaged 24.9 points given up per game TTU managed 52.6. The ratio to points given up to points scored is TTU (2.11) and OU (1.78) so multiply it by the points allowed between these two teams OU 26 x 2.11= 54.86 TTU 23 x 1.78 =40.9. I think people underest<o:p></o:p>

I like your analysis GS and I understand why everyone may be on OU, but I really believe that this is Tech's year. I know I am a new poster, but I just wanted to offer an opinion from the other side. You have probably watched every Sooner game, but not every TTU game. As I have watched every TTU game, but not every Sooner game. I hope for a good entertaining game and whichever side you choose may it be the winning side!
They don't play UT @ home so that home W-L may be a little skewed.

BOL on this game and your whole card!!!
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Wake Forest (-2) over Boston College **** (Best Bet)
This game has a pretty good situational angle to it with Boston College upsetting Florida State on the road last week, and now playing their second straight road game as a dog. And Wake coming off of an upset loss to NCST and now coming home with still a very solid chance to win the ACC Atlantic Divsion. Boston College is also a young team on offense going up against a veteran defense. And to me this is the key to this game...Boston College has lived off of their opponents miscues this year. It can make this team look very good when this happens. As in their 17-0 win over Notre Dame, or their win last week over FSU, who without their 5 starting receivers, threw 3 int's, including one that was returned for a td. And very bad when it doesn't. As in their 45-24 loss to North Carolina.. The problem with playing a team like Wake is they don't turn the ball over..In fact they are the team who causes the turnovers. Wake has a (+14) turnover margin this year compared to BC's (+2). So this is kind of a bad matchup for BC and the formula they use to win games. BC's defense has been strong this year...But their offense has tended to make mistakes on the road. And QB Crane ranks just 97th nationally in pass efficiency offense..And he can be rattled by a good defense. And I think after their loss last week, the Demon Deacons defense will come out in high gear for this game. With the exception of the Navy game earlier in the season, Wake has been flawless at home in ACC play. And that's what good teams do. They protect the home field. The cream rises to the top in November..And I believe WF is the better team, with the better QB less apt to make the mistakes..I usually don't play a game that appears this close as a Best Bet play..And we might be a little on the edge of our seats with this game because Wake usually doesn't blow teams out..But with basically a pickem kind of spread, I'm convinced that the well coached experienced team will prevail in a low scoring game.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Ole Miss (+3.5) over LSU **
This line opened at 5.5. And if it hadn't gone to under +4 I would have made this a stronger play. But as it is, this just looks to me like two teams going opposite directions. And LSU looks like a team in the "we don't care no more" mode. You have to watch out for teams coming off winning the national title. Sometimes they can reach out and bite you because the Tigers still have some great personnel. But so far they just haven't played like it..Many of their problems have come because of their QB play (15 int's). And the other part of it has been their lack of defense against quality offenses.. LSU has been able to play the more average offenses like South Carolina and Bama pretty well. But when it comes to teams who have a pulse on offense like Florida (51 points) or Georgia (52 points), they haven't been able to compete. In comes Ole Miss, who is starting to come together offensively with the improved play of QB Snead. And this is the key here..The QB and coaching advantage go to Ole Miss. along with the momentum of 3 straight wins..Plus the angles go to Ole Miss with LSU being the worst team in the SEC as home chalk along with the outstanding record that Houston Nutt has a road dog. Remember that nice Best Bet we won earlier in the year against Florida? This team is the real deal. After last week they're now bowl eligible and confident. And I think they have a good chance to keep it going here.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
<META content=Word.Document name=ProgId><META content="Microsoft Word 11" name=Generator><META content="Microsoft Word 11" name=Originator><LINK href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CJVILLA%7E1%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml" rel=File-List><STYLE> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle15 {mso-style-type:personal; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> The last 3 opponents for OU has an average points allowed per game of 34.8 and OU managed 62 points on average TTU’s last 3 teams averaged 24.9 points given up per game TTU managed 52.6. The ratio to points given up to points scored is TTU (2.11) and OU (1.78) so multiply it by the points allowed between these two teams OU 26 x 2.11= 54.86 TTU 23 x 1.78 =40.9. I think people underest<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p>

I like your analysis GS and I understand why everyone may be on OU, but I really believe that this is Tech's year. I know I am a new poster, but I just wanted to offer an opinion from the other side. You have probably watched every Sooner game, but not every TTU game. As I have watched every TTU game, but not every Sooner game. I hope for a good entertaining game and whichever side you choose may it be the winning side!
They don't play UT @ home so that home W-L may be a little skewed.

BOL on this game and your whole card!!!
I think your missing the point I made earlier in this thread...There is a big difference between a team who is giving up yards and points as in Texas Tech's games against Nebraska and Texas A&M, where they gave up more yards than OU. And OU giving up points and yards when their games are already decided..BIG difference..Imatexan...I guess we're all entitled to our opinions, but I think right now, the two teams who are playing the best football and who have the best personnal in the country are Florida and OU. If you want to call me a homer so be it. But I can only go by what I see. Having said that, i think OSU could very well knock off OU in Stillwater next week after OU beats Tech..And that would send TT to the Big 12 Championship Game...But if I wanted a team to represent this conference in the BCS title game, I would want it to be Texas if it isn't OU..I just think with their defense and QB play that Texas is capable of knocking off anybody in the country...I'm not nearly as confident in TT's #98th rated pass defense playing on the road in a neutral site game. This is a stage that they've never been on before..And don't underestimate this angle...It's big..OU and Texas have been there before...They know what to expect.
 
Joined
Nov 28, 2007
Messages
1,136
Tokens
Im not trying to talk you into plays or anything, but along with me playing oklahoma for the full game i am playing them first half. i have been saying all week that texas tech is a timing based offense. i dont think they will be in game speed until late in the 2nd quarter or so. i think for OU to win they have to get off to a fast start. here's another thing i see playing out: the public is pretty heavy on texas tech at almost a 75% clip, they are the #2 team in the nation and getting 7 points. that is a red flag. i think OU wins by 14. then later this year, you will have florida vs bama at a neutral site. bama will be #1 and getting probably about 7 points. Problem is, public is going to be all over florida here, and i think bama wins it......ive said for 3 or 4 weeks now bama vs OU in the title game with OU winning it all. good luck again
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Stanford (+9) over Cal **
I love these rivalry games..7 times out of 10 when there is more than a TD given on the spread these dogs tend to reach up and bite you. And I think this is what will happen this week in this rivalry series that has gotten very close in the last couple of years. Stanford is one of my running dogs this week. And I always perk up when my run dogs are getting more than one score..Especially considering how much Cal's OL is banged up. So I think Toby Gerhart & company have a good chance to outrush Cal in this game. Cal has had more problems scoring the last few weeks than they were ealrier in the season..And Stanford is playing much better defense this year than they have in past years. Mainly because their ball control offense is keeping their defense off the field..And this team doesn't have any quit in them as they showed against an overpowering USC team last week. And Cal is coming off a disappointing loss to OSU that really wasn't that close.. And an even bigger reason for Stanford to play big here is they can become bowl eligible with a 6th win. So I expect hard play for 60 minutes against their bitter rivals. Plus a last chance for the seniors to get to a bowl for the first time in their careers. And the Trees first bowl in 7 years...Plenty to play for here..I look for this game to go right down to the wire.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
Im not trying to talk you into plays or anything, but along with me playing oklahoma for the full game i am playing them first half. i have been saying all week that texas tech is a timing based offense. i dont think they will be in game speed until late in the 2nd quarter or so. i think for OU to win they have to get off to a fast start. here's another thing i see playing out: the public is pretty heavy on texas tech at almost a 75% clip, they are the #2 team in the nation and getting 7 points. that is a red flag. i think OU wins by 14. then later this year, you will have florida vs bama at a neutral site. bama will be #1 and getting probably about 7 points. Problem is, public is going to be all over florida here, and i think bama wins it......ive said for 3 or 4 weeks now bama vs OU in the title game with OU winning it all. good luck again
Forget first half, what about first quarter? OU has been money this year in the first 15 minutes. These defenses usually don't know what hit them..It usually takes them a half to adjust and settle down against OU fast paced offense. Even Texas got jumped on in the first quarter by the Sooners in the first 3 minutes of the game..And that was on a neutral field..I think TT will have trouble adjusting on the road to the Sooners offensive speed, which looks even faster when the game is played at night.
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
North Carolina State (+11) over North Carolina **
NCST is at this point in the season one of the most improved teams in the nation. And they showed they were for real last week in their upset win over Wake Forest. Much of it has to do with the improved play of RS frosh QB Russell Wilson. Add to that the improved play on defense, and this team is starting to gel to the point that they can beat any of these mediocre ACC teams. They haven't lost by more than 9 points in the last 6 weeks. And their playing a NC team who now has a QB controversy after their poor play last week against Maryland. NC has only averaged 23 points a game in league play..And if you take the 45 out that they scored against BC, that number goes way down. And now their asking them to win by double digits here..Which seems high to me against an in-state rival. NCST beat a WF team who gives up only 312 yards on defense. NCST is now facing a NC defense who is giving up 343 ypg..I see no reason why they can't have enough offensive success to cover this big spread.
 

New member
Joined
Oct 15, 2004
Messages
296
Tokens
GT / Miami

GS - Did you look at the game tonight?

I've liked the way GT has played early in the year, but it sure seems like Miami is playing the best of the POS ACC. I like Miami's athletes on defense and may have the ability to limit the option attack.

Just checking to see if you had run the numbers on this one. Thanks!
 

Member
Joined
Oct 16, 2004
Messages
28,799
Tokens
BYU (+7) over Utah ***
They may be 11-0, but this Utah team still hasn't convinced me that they are a BCS quality team. That was a big win two weeks ago over TCU. But it was a game that TCU won everywhere but the scoreboard...Utah was very very fortunate to win that game. I also think Utah's easy schedule has been very favorable to a successful season. As we all found out, their first game win over Michigan wasn't that big of a deal after all. The only other tough road game they had was over a young Air Force team. And that wasn't a very impressive win. All of Utah's other road wins have come against teams who haven't won more than 4 games on the year. They did beat oregon State..But that was at home the week after OSU won their biggest game of the year over USC. So a letdown was inevitable for that game..And even then Utah was lucky to win that game. Utah just hasn't been a dominating team all year. They haven't beat any team with a pulse by more than 7 all year..Why should they do it here against a 10-1 BYU team who has the better offense (435 ypg) vs Utah (398 ypg). And the better QB clearly belongs to BYU. I've never rally liked BYU as a favorite..But I really like them as dogs. And again, this is an instate rivalry game where the favorite has to win by 2 scores to beat me. Utah has caught all of their stiff competetion at the right place at the right time as in Michigan with a new coach & new offense, OSU coming off a big win over USC. And TCU playing their second straight road game, and going to a place that they've never had luck winning. Now their playing in a game against an in-state rival and a coach who is 2-1 SU against Utah and has never lost by more than 7 to the Utes. Give me the dogs all day.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,810
Messages
13,573,533
Members
100,877
Latest member
kiemt5385
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com