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CGOLD protests: I love how when we are talking about babies not being given a chance at life, we use the adjective ONLY... as in "Only 2000 babies died".

Bar: In the post of mine you quote, I did not say that "2000 babies died". I only referenced the 2000 fetuses who were terminated in the third trimester.

And it's offered up as a counter to the implied notion that most abortions involve late term fetuses.

In fact, over 80% of abortions occur witin the first three months. And those involve either embryos or fetuses that are maybe twice the size of an average human thumb.

How many American died in Iraq in 7 years?
How many babies die from abortion every year.

It's not even close.
 

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Probably worthy to note that if one's "hot button" is economics, the last thing you want to do is lobby to make abortions a criminal act within the USA.

Likely one of the biggest drains on our economy is the cost of raising unwanted and/or unneeded children.


Unneeded children? What is an unneeded child? Is GTC and unneeded child? Is he unwanted?


illegal immigrants can be a fiscal drain on america, should we kill them too?
How about the generations of welfare queens in the ghetto? Kill them?

Health care costs rise exponentially because of end of life operations that are extremely expensive, should we start euthenizing people?

We keep pumping more and more dollars into public schools only to get the same ( if not worse) results... should we close them all down?

What if your mommy wanted to kill you, how would you like that? You have already proven you know nothing about economics so please stop talking econ.
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and now we have 1 group


Let's call them the unproductives
that outnumber the productives

The productives are forced to fork over their money/production to the unproductives..

At most, maybe 10% of your and my federal income tax goes to housing/food/medical care for those who are economically disadvantaged.

Whatever your federal income tax is this year, I'm confident the amount that goes to help other people less financially able will not cause you undue harm.
 

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CGOLD gets rockin':illegal immigrants can be a fiscal drain on america, should we kill them too? How about the generations of welfare queens in the ghetto? Kill them?

Bar: Of course not. They are human beings with constitutional rights, unlike a fetus or embryo that is not wanted by the pregnant female.

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CG: Health care costs rise exponentially because of end of life operations that are extremely expensive, should we start euthenizing people?

Bar: Of course not. But your question does remind us of the urgent need to better educate all Americans on the need for removing legal impediments to assisted suicide. I am confident there are tens of thousands of Americans every year in a late-life medical crisis who would really like to pull their own plug, but do not do so because of how it might bring legal harm to their doctor or family members who might assist this process.

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CG: What if your mommy wanted to kill you, how would you like that?

Bar: That's a silly question. My mommy wanted me at the time I was born and she certainly does not want to kill me now.

But I do know that if she had elected - for any reason she wanted - to terminate one of her pregnancies (she's had six kids), I would not support allowing the government to arrest her, prosecute her and put her into prison for infanticide.

Therefore I'm super glad I live in The United States of America, where women need not have that fear
 

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At most, maybe 10% of your and my federal income tax goes to housing/food/medical care for those who are economically disadvantaged.

Whatever your federal income tax is this year, I'm confident the amount that goes to help other people less financially able will not cause you undue harm.


Really, less than 10% of federal income taxes go to
Housing
Food
Medical care
other entitlements (social security)

So since it is less than 10%, what does the budget pie chart look like???

5% entitlements
95% wars in Iraq/afganistan?

Is that what cnn told you or did you just make that up Barman?
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and no crack heads/africans/homosexuals ever die from Aids either...

Not surprising that I have absolutely no idea what the above post intended to convey

But allow me to help your writing skills by noting that it's AIDS.

"Aids" is a noun describing something which assists in an activity.

For example, "One of Barman's jobs at the RxForum is when he aids other members in how to use the Search feature."
 

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Infantcide....
More liberals playing with words...

We don't support KILLING BABIES, it's infantcide!

We aren't for a national ponzi scheme... It's called social security?


It's not called legalized robbery... it's welfare!

They aren't called terrorists... they are international dissidents!

We aren't in a war on terror... it's a global misunderstanding!

The cia didn't flat out tell Nancy... they implied it!

I didn't inhale

I didn't have sex sex with that woman... it was a hummer.


This is why I do not vote for lawyers.... liberal liberal lawyers = liars.
 

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Really, less than 10% of federal income taxes go to
Housing
Food
Medical care
other entitlements (social security)

So since it is less than 10%, what does the budget pie chart look like???

5% entitlements
95% wars in Iraq/afganistan?

No, I said "at most, maybe 10%"

I don't know the entire federal pie chart but I'd venture it's about

10% Food & Housing, Medical Care for indigent
30% Other entitlements such as social security and Medicare/Medicaid which impact all citizens across the board
30% Military "defense" and other war funding
30% General infrastructure such as roads, utilities, funds sent to the states, law enforcement

The federal government is certainly worthy of criticism. But only a neophyte would suggest that the feds only two functions are "war in the Mideast" and "giving money to unproductives".
 

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Not surprising that I have absolutely no idea what the above post intended to convey

But allow me to help your writing skills by noting that it's AIDS.

"Aids" is a noun describing something which assists in an activity.

For example, "One of Barman's jobs at the RxForum is when he aids other members in how to use the Search feature."


No babies die from abortion... You could have fooled me, I thought you just said that ONLY 2000 babies die from 3rd trimester abortions... now nobody does.

Nobody dies from AIDS... Those gays... those africans... those brazilians... those druggies... they don't really die from aids...
 

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No, I said "at most, maybe 10%"

I don't know the entire federal pie chart but I'd venture it's about

10% Food & Housing, Medical Care for indigent
30% Other entitlements such as social security and Medicare/Medicaid which impact all citizens across the board
30% Military "defense" and other war funding
30% General infrastructure such as roads, utilities, funds sent to the states, law enforcement

The federal government is certainly worthy of criticism. But only a neophyte would suggest that the feds only two functions are "war in the Mideast" and "giving money to unproductives".

So does less than 10% of your money go to entitlements or closer to 50%?


Is your money going to other people, or is it to provide public goods? Is 1/2 of the money a transfer payment or not?
 

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Infantcide....
More liberals playing with words...

Actually that would be the hard core anti-abortion crowd homing in on that word. Were they to have their way, any woman in the USA who terminated a pregnancy would be subject to arrest, prosecution and time in prison for infanticide.
 

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I think this is why liberals are so mixed up..

don't actually LOOK at the federal budget, just rely on your thought leadership to do it for you. Why should you think when cnn, abc, nbc and your other sheep herders tell you and your friends how to think, what you can eat, what you should drive, who should get a job...

Come on now, your not paid to think.
 

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So does less than 10% of your money go to entitlements or closer to 50%?


Is your money going to other people, or is it to provide public goods? Is 1/2 of the money a transfer payment or not?

You can read my guestimates, which I'm confident aren't off by more than a few points.

10% to those financially disadvantaged
30% to the population at large
30% to general infrastructure enjoyed by the population at large

If you want to go on a rant about your complaints that the federal government levies an income tax, you should probably start a thread outside of the topic of "abortion rights".

And when you create that fresh thread, make sure and tell of us where someone can move to that does not have some form of federal income tax.
 

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I think this is why liberals are so mixed up..

don't actually LOOK at the federal budget, just rely on your thought leadership to do it for you. Why should you think when cnn, abc, nbc and your other sheep herders tell you

Perhaps you missed the post I made last week (and have mentioned numerous times in past four years) where I stated that I personally never watch CNN, ABC, NBC or any other television news outlet save for perhaps a couple hours a year when a really big ongoing news story is taking place.
 

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Actually that would be the hard core anti-abortion crowd homing in on that word. Were they to have their way, any woman in the USA who terminated a pregnancy would be subject to arrest, prosecution and time in prison for infanticide.

Osama bin laden shouldn't be jailed right... I mean, he wasn't flying the planes.. it was other people... he didn't do it... it was those other killers.

They aren't "murderers" though right? That's a big bad mean word. They are "transition operators", or "termination specialists" right?

Republicans are just trying to gag people by calling
murderers murderers


Those poor terrorists probably grew up in disadvantaged neighboorhoods anyway... we should reform them, not kill them... they just need more love... people are people. Let's all hold hands... they just need more love.
 

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Perhaps you missed the post I made last week (and have mentioned numerous times in past four years) where I stated that I personally never watch CNN, ABC, NBC or any other television news outlet save for perhaps a couple hours a year when a really big ongoing news story is taking place.


YUP, because that's my job... to stay up to date on your comments. You are a moral authority.
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You can read my guestimates, which I'm confident aren't off by more than a few points.

10% to those financially disadvantaged
30% to the population at large
30% to general infrastructure enjoyed by the population at large

If you want to go on a rant about your complaints that the federal government levies an income tax, you should probably start a thread outside of the topic of "abortion rights".

And when you create that fresh thread, make sure and tell of us where someone can move to that does not have some form of federal income tax.


What is a "financially disadvantaged" person?

What kind of disadvantage? Is being lazy a disadvantage?
 

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No babies die from abortion... You could have fooled me, I thought you just said that ONLY 2000 babies die from 3rd trimester abortions... now nobody does.

Here is my exact quote from earlier in this thread

Here's the good news. The number of pregnancies terminated in the third trimester is less than 2000 a year.

It was you who assigned the word "babies" to those fetuses and embryos who were terminated, not I.
 

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