I for one would not be near them nor should they be out of the house so not sure where that question lands
also i would not have sex with someone with aids , who would?
Now I do have a friend who worked for Delta Airlines in Miami and he got transferred to Minnesota , he said it was so cold he went out and contracted gonorrhea for the burning sensation
You are morally responsible to not murder others.
Wear a mask to protect those most vulnerable from dying as a result of - your - C-19 infection. IOW wear a mask so - you - don't murder others.
If you can't even do a simple easy little thing like put on a mask to protect others & society, do you even deserve to have a life or live.
As it's said "Karma's a bitch".
They're not open because the health experts don't recommend it & they know that masks are not a "silver bullet". Masks do indeed "work". That is, they work to keep the number of infections from being higher than they already are. And the scientific evidence supports that.
In many places where masks are worn infections have gone down. Does that prove masks work?
In regards to the claim masks don't work because in time period X infections at place Y went up while people wore masks that's a
1) Logical fallacy. The conclusion does not necessarily follow from the premise.
2) The rise in infections could be due to many other variables, such as people returning to school, more acting irresponsibly, more staying in higher risk environments such as indoors as the weather gets colder, etc,. In fact the rise could be even worse without masks being used.
And probably would be, because the scientific evidence says masks work. That's why in almost every nation on earth they are either mandated or recommended as per health experts instructions
3) Then why is it that Asian nations that use masks fared much better than Western nations that didn't use masks. Based on that info & your simplistic way of reaching conclusions, you should conclude that masks are working. But that would contradict your conclusion that masks aren't working. Can both be true, masks are working and masks aren't working?
4) The Ontario chart re infections shows that the daily numbers continually go up and then go down. So do you conclude that masks work on the days that infections went down. https://www.google.com/search?q=ont...rome..69i57.6877j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
"In June, researchers at the University of Iowa collected data on when, exactly, states with mask-wearing mandates instituted their rules. Fifteen states and Washington, DC, had done that before May 8. Then the researchers looked at those states’ subsequent growth curves in Covid-19 infections. The results were striking. Even controlling for other social-distancing measures, and without looking at how many people actually wore masks at an individual level, the curve started to bend downward as soon as a week later. Three weeks later, the daily growth rate in states with mask mandates was down 2 percent. “It's not about the types of masks. We don’t even measure individual use of masks. We look at whether states have mandated people should use them in public and compare them before and after,” says George Wehby, a professor of health policy and management at the University of Iowa and lead author of the paper. “Many other states also had shelter-in-place laws in place, but [we still see] this effect.”
Public health messaging and science have to work hard to stay in sync during a crisis. During the Covid-19 pandemic, they haven’t always succeeded.
Based on that why aren't you concluding that masks work & they work very effectively.
Perhaps the question of mask efficacy isn't so simple as observing infection numbers.
Already answered. Read the thread. Some people have and do wear them with regards to other viruses. Considering that may save millions of lives, why wouldn't you want to do such an easy simple thing & be part of the solution instead of part of the problem?
Note also the present recommendations re the annual flu:
"Avoid crowds. The flu spreads easily wherever people gather...Your local health department and the CDC may suggest other precautions to reduce your risk of COVID-19 or the flu. For example, you may need to practice social distancing (physical distancing) and stay at least 6 feet (2 meters) from others outside your household. You may also need to wear a cloth face mask when around people outside your household."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...al infection,that cause diarrhea and vomiting.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm
"Avoid crowds. The flu spreads easily wherever people gather...Your local health department and the CDC may suggest other precautions to reduce your risk of COVID-19 or the flu. For example, you may need to practice social distancing (physical distancing) and stay at least 6 feet (2 meters) from others outside your household. You may also need to wear a cloth face mask when around people outside your household."
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...al infection,that cause diarrhea and vomiting.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm
A hoax? "I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell
Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/c-19-damaging-the-health-of-many-survivors.723087/
If you are 50+ do you want to let yourself or others play Russian Roulette with your life?
So if you're 70+ there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Greater than 5% or 5 in 100.
Also if you're 50-69 there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Exactly 5 in 1000.
Anyone wanna play some "Russian Roulette". That's a fool's game.
Wake up.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...ian%20roulette
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ssian-roulette
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...ssian-roulette
The following is from:
Shutdowns were the most effective precaution there was from a cautious health expert perspective. That's why the experts advocated lockdowns. They worked to save millions of lives from death, as well as millions of others from illness, hospitalization, ICU & long term negative health effects. Which would have impacted economies negatively. And led to hospitals being overwhelmed & having to choose between who lives & who dies because they wouldn't have been able to treat many emergency patients on arrival & have been forced to turn many away from timely needed emergency care. Leading to many more deaths.
So you're saying you advocated a Swedish approach "all along" from the beginning of the pandemic? Are you not aware that Sweden has suffered way more infections and deaths relative to their Nordic neighbours with no advantage economically? The Sweden approach has been a failure!
Are you not aware that even apparently healthy young people are dying & suffering long term negative consequences from C-19, in addition to suffering in ICU's from the illness. Which you ignored from my previous post.
"I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell
Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell
More on the long term negative effects of C-19 infection here:
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/c-19...vivors.723087/
As for the shutdowns, what is obviously clear is they have had many benefits:
1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637
Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.
Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.
"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."
https://www.google.com/search?q=lead...hrome&ie=UTF-8
"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4
"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"
https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/...nd%20cyclists.
As for "trillions in damage", there would have been huge economic damage with or without the shutdowns. Without shutdowns millions more people get ill, hospitalized, suffer long term ill health & death leading to employees being absent from work, businesses shutdown anyway, & in many cases for much longer, etc.
Not this year. Flu deaths are way down due safety measures (lockdowns, masks, distancing, etc).
You are morally responsible to not murder others.
Wear a mask to protect those most vulnerable from dying as a result of - your - C-19 infection. IOW wear a mask so - you - don't murder others.
If you can't even do a simple easy little thing like put on a mask to protect others & society, do you even deserve to have a life or live.
As it's said "Karma's a bitch".
My threads on masks proving they work & debunking StevieRay's twitter & youtube crap about them:
http://www.therxforum.com/search.php?searchid=2255692
Educate yourselves.
http://www.therxforum.com/search.php?searchid=2255692
Educate yourselves.
This shows some of the debunking of the Stevie Willie clique that has occurred:
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1167092&p=13265400&viewfull=1#post13265400
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=1167092&p=13265400&viewfull=1#post13265400
