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I saw the darkness of antisemitism, but I never thought it would get this dark

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Racism is not a specific illness but a general sickness. Display one symptom and you display them all. If you show me an anti-Muslim bigot, I will be able to guess his or her views on the European Union, welfare state, crime and “political correctness”. Show me a leftwing or Islamist antisemite and, once again, he will carry a suitcase full of prejudices, which have nothing to do with Jews, but somehow have everything to do with Jews.

The Labour party does not have a “problem with antisemitism” it can isolate and treat, like a patient asking a doctor for a course of antibiotics. The party and much of the wider liberal-left have a chronic condition.


As I have written about the darkness on the left before, I am not going to crow now that it has turned darker than even I predicted. (There is not much to crow about, after all.) I have nothing but respect for the Labour MPs who are trying to stop their party becoming a playpen for fanatics and cranks. It just appears to me that they face interlocking difficulties that are close to insoluble.

They must first pay the political price of confronting supporters from immigrant communities, which Labour MPs from all wings of the party have failed to do for decades. It may be high. While Ken Livingstone was forcing startled historians to explain that Adolf Hitler was not a Zionist, I was in Naz Shah’s Bradford. A politician who wants to win there cannot afford to be reasonable, I discovered. He or she cannot deplore the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and say that the Israelis and Palestinians should have their own states. They have to engage in extremist rhetoric of the “sweep all the Jews out” variety or risk their opponents denouncing them as “Zionists”.

George Galloway, who, never forget, was a demagogue from the race-card playing left rather than the far right, made the private prejudices of conservative Muslim voters respectable. Aisha Ali-Khan, who worked as Galloway’s assistant until his behaviour came to disgust her, realised how deep prejudice had sunk when she made a silly quip about David Miliband being more “fanciable” than Ed. Respect members accused her of being a “Jew lover” and, all of a sudden in Bradford politics, that did not seem an outrageous, or even an unusual, insult. Where Galloway led, others followed. David Ward, a now mercifully forgotten Liberal Democrat MP, tried and failed to save his seat by proclaiming his Jew obsession. Nothing, not even the murder of Jews, could restrain him. At one point, he told his constituents that the sight of the Israeli prime minister honouring the Parisian Jews whom Islamists had murdered made him “sick”. (He appeared to find the massacre itself easier to stomach.)

Naz Shah’s picture of Israel superimposed on to a map of the US to show her “solution” for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was not a one-off but part of a race to the bottom. But Shah’s wider behaviour as an MP – a “progressive” MP, mark you – gives you a better idea of how deep the rot has sunk. She ignored a Bradford imam who declared that the terrorist who murdered a liberal Pakistani politician was a “great hero of Islam” and concentrated her energies on expressing her “loathing” of liberal and feminist British Muslims instead.

Shah is not alone, which is why I talk of a general sickness. Liberal Muslims make many profoundly uncomfortable. Writers in the left-wing press treat them as Uncle Toms, as Shah did, because they are willing to work with the government to stop young men and women joining Islamic State. While they are criticised, politically correct criticism rarely extends to clerics who celebrate religious assassins. As for the antisemitism that allows Labour MPs to fantasise about“transporting” Jews, consider how jeering and dishonest the debate around that has become.

When feminists talk about rape, they are not told as a matter of course “but women are always making false rape accusations”. If they were, they would suspect that their opponents wanted to deny the existence of sexual violence. Yet it is standard in polite society to hear that accusations of antisemitism are always made in bad faith to delegitimise justifiable criticism of Israel. I accept that there are Jews who say that all criticism of Israel is antisemitic. For her part, a feminist must accept that there are women who make false accusations of rape. But that does not mean that antisemitism does not exist, any more than it means that rape never happens.

Challenging prejudices on the left wing is going to be all the more difficult because, incredibly, the British left in the second decade of the 21st century is led by men steeped in the worst traditions of the 20th. When historians had to explain last week that if Montgomery had not defeated Rommel at El Alamein in Egypt then the German armies would have killed every Jew they could find in Palestine, they were dealing with the conspiracy theory that Hitler was a Zionist, developed by a half-educated American Trotskyist called Lenni Brenner in the 1980s.

When Jeremy Corbyn defended the Islamist likes of Raed Salah, who say that Jews dine on the blood of Christian children, he was continuing a tradition of communist accommodation with antisemitism that goes back to Stalin’s purges of Soviet Jews in the late 1940s.

It is astonishing that you have to, but you must learn the worst of leftwing history now. For Labour is not just led by dirty men but by dirty old men, with roots in the contaminated soil of Marxist totalitarianism. If it is to change, its leaders will either have to change their minds or be thrown out of office.

Put like this, the tasks facing Labour moderates seem impossible. They have to be attempted, however, for moral as much as electoral reasons.

Allow me to state the moral argument as baldly as I can. Not just in Paris, but inMarseille, Copenhagen and Brussels, fascistic reactionaries are murdering Jews – once again. Go to any British synagogue or Jewish school and you will see police officers and volunteers guarding them. I do not want to tempt fate, but if British Jews were murdered, the leader of the Labour party would not be welcome at their memorial. The mourners would point to the exit and ask him to leave.

If it is incredible that we have reached this pass, it is also intolerable. However hard the effort to overthrow it, the status quo cannot stand.


 

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Vitterd is sooo predictable. He posts some dumb shit with his white apologist mental issues...gets owned by multiple posters with facts that dont fit his agenda.....then he starts hurling out insults about the posters that are posting the facts.

This dude is a classic case of liberal loser justification...if you dont like the facts try to discredit the source. He does it in almost every thread (which is every thread on here)....once he loses the argument start attacking peoples character.

Doesnt like the stats on black/white cop shootings? Attack the source.

Doesnt like the fact about crime and gun violence in Dem controlled gun free cities? Atrack the right wing for driving the violence. Or blame it.on camera phones.

Do you take meds vit? Ill wait 30 seconds for your reply.

This is one of your more idiotic posts. I've already posted that actual numbers that prove everything I say. Not some stupid little meme. In politics, the source is always most important. You simply are too fucking stupid to get it.

Gets owned by posters? Lmao. Who? Where? These dumb fucks have never owned anything in their lives.
 

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Grea job vid. Will gasman or sheriff Joe even acknowledge how wrong their bullshit stats are? Of course not.....bunch of lying idiots.

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[h=1]Number of hate crimes against Jews soars as report says anti-semitism is at the 'core' of far-Left beliefs [/h]

  • Number of hate crimes against Jews in Britain has reached shocking high
  • Police recorded almost 1,000 anti-Semitic offences in 2015 - up 25 per cent
  • Findings revealed ‘growth in anti-Semitism as core part of far-Left’ ideology
  • Report comes as the Labour Party is gripped by anti-Semitism allegations
By MARTIN BECKFORD, HOME AFFAIRS EDITOR FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 23:42, 30 April 2016 | UPDATED: 00:36, 1 May 2016
The number of hate crimes against Jews in Britain has reached a shocking new high, campaigners warn today.
An alarming new report shows that police forces recorded almost 1,000 anti-Semitic offences in 2015 – a 25 per cent rise on the previous year.
Violent attacks on Jews soared by 50 per cent and yet there was a worrying decline in the number of cases where suspects were charged.
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The findings come as the Labour Party is gripped by anti-Semitism allegations, some of which are levied at Ken Livingstone, pictured



Campaigners fear the worrying trend is being driven by Islamists, neo-Nazis and far-Left activists and students, who use social media to share sickening images similar to those seen in Nazi Germany.
In one shocking case, a mob shouting ‘Kill the Jews’ stormed a synagogue in Stamford Hill, North London, smashing windows and attacking worshippers.



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The report says that there has been a ‘growth in anti-Semitism as a core part of far-Left’ ideology. The findings come as the Labour Party is gripped by anti-Semitism allegations: MP Naz Shah and former London Mayor Ken Livingstone have both been suspended in the past week, and an internal investigation has been set up by beleaguered party leader Jeremy Corbyn.Last night, Gideon Falter, chairman of the Campaign Against Anti-Semitism, which published the report, said: ‘This data should alarm those responsible for enforcing the law. They are failing British Jews badly.
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MP Naz Shah, pictured, and former London Mayor Ken Livingstone have both been suspended in the past week, and an internal investigation has been set up by beleaguered party leader Jeremy Corbyn




‘If the situation continues to deteriorate, the Jewish community will be faced with the kind of rampant anti-Semitism seen in other European countries, which has left Jews feeling fearful and abandoned, and many of them convinced that they have no choice but to emigrate.’


He added: ‘Britain’s fight against anti-Semitism and extremism cannot be allowed to fail.’


The charity asked every force in Britain how many anti-Semitic incidents and crimes they had recorded in each month of 2014 and 2015, as well as the number that involved violence, and the proportion that led to prosecutions.


Only 13.6 per cent of incidents led to charges in 2015.


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Just like Guesser, the left hate Jews. Sickos all of them.
 

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Just like Guesser, the left hate Jews. Sickos all of them.

How do you keep showing your face here? Last month you were caught by guesser backing up a story that was proven false......vidswaps knocked you out by showing those stats you were citing were total bullshit......yet you keep coming back. Have some pride man. I know ignoring the fact you were caught in lies is your MO.....but jeez. Own up and be a man.
 

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False, false and false. Guesser, vidswaps nor you have never done anything in here but embarrass yourselves.
 

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False, false and false. Guesser, vidswaps nor you have never done anything in here but embarrass yourselves.
Some advice.....stop quoting and citing random bullshit articles and statistics put out by wacko conservative websites. Also, do not back up Sheriff Joe posts.....he ALWAYS post lies.

That advice might help you from looking so ducking stupid in the future.
 

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You really are clueless. You just simply aren't able to grasp it....mentally you aren't capable.

Preferential treatment? That's classic....go be black or Hispanic for a few days.....you will pray to be white again. You are another stuck in his bubble moron.....like Willie in Connecticut and Joe in Canada. You are without a clue of what goes on in the world and how it works.

You dont know a single person on welfare. Some scam the system but most don't. It's like anything.....good and bad apples. The problem is you lump them all together without a clue what you're talking about.
http://www.youngcons.com/governor-r...-hours-a-week-this-happens-immediately-after/

Good call dumb fuck.
 

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[h=3]'NO JEWISH DONATIONS TO LABOUR SINCE CORBYN TOOK CHARGE'[/h]A Labour donor has said he does not think a single British Jew has given money to the central party since Jeremy Corbyn took charge.
Former showbusiness agent Michael Foster, whose family gave £400,000 to the general election campaign, stressed he did not believe Mr Corbyn was anti-Semitic.
But he said there were serious concerns about the leader's 'fellow travellers'.
Mr Foster, himself Jewish, told BBC Radio 4's World This Weekend he still donated locally to 'all kinds of MPs'.
'What I don't agree with is the way that the leadership of the Labour party simply has ignored this issue and not gone to any length at all to meet with and speak to the Jewish community about its fears,' he said.
'I think I'm right in saying I don't think there is a Jew in Britain who has given money centrally to the party since Jeremy Corbyn's selection, because prior to his selection and since his selection, we have asked and asked for this to be dealt with.'
Mr Fostersaid: 'I want to be really clear, I do not for one minute think Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-Semite, nowhere near it.
'But he does have fellow travellers who definitely vilify Jews as part of their political shtick.'
Mr Foster said the recently-announced anti-Semitism review to be headed by former head of Liberty Shami Chakrabarti should 'look at the whole ethos in the leadership'.
'I think it's quite clear… that there are many apologists for what Ken did and I think people such as Simon Fletcher, and people such as Seumas Milne, have a history throughout their working life of trying to shame and shout down people who try to defend Israel,' he added




 

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Labour suspends councillor over Israel Facebook posts in latest antisemitism row

'Ilyas Aziz has been suspended from the Labour Party pending an investigation'






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Jeremy Corbyn insisted the party is "united" in opposing anti-Semitism PALabour has acted swiftly to suspend a councillor after social media posts emerged of him suggesting Israel should be relocated to the United States.
Ilyas Aziz, a Nottingham City councillor, has been suspended pending an investigation in the latest row over controversial comments to hit the party. Mr Aziz also appeared to liken the actions of Israel against the Palestinians to those of the Nazis against the Jews.







The move comes after Jeremy Corbyn insisted the party is "united" in opposing antisemitism in the wake of a turbulent week which has also seen the suspension of MP Naz Shah and former London mayor Ken Livingstone.
"Ilyas Aziz has been suspended from the Labour Party pending an investigation," A Labour spokeswoman said.
Among Facebook posts from Mr Aziz's account highlighted on the Guido Fawkes website was a comment saying: "Jews and Muslims lived together in the Middle East, in peace pre 1948. Perhaps it would have been wiser to create Israel in America it's big enough. They could relocate even now."




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On Sunday Diane Abbott, the shadow International Development Secretary and one of Mr Corbyn’s closest allies in Westminster, dismissed claims that the Labour Party has a problem with antisemitism as “smears”.
"It's something of a smear against ordinary party members, it is, it is a smear to say the Labour party has a problem with antisemitism,” Ms Abbott said on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show.
Len McCluskey, General Secretary of Unite and Labour's biggest donor, added that Mr Corbyn was the victim of "a cynical attempt to manipulate antisemitism for political aims".
"The idea that there is an antisemitic crisis within the Labour Party is absolutely offensive but it is being used in order to challenge Jeremy Corbyn," he told Pienaar's Politics on BBC Radio 5 Live.
"Once the mood music of antisemitism dies down, then next week and the week after there will be another subject. It is an issue that comes up because somebody says something stupid and then immediately it becomes a crisis."
The row had been "got up by the right-wing press aided and abetted by Labour MPs" and party grandees who "get out of their wheelchair and toss a few hand grenades in", the union chief added.
According to Press Association, after his suspension had been announced, Mr Aziz said: “I have no comment at all.”


 

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Two more Labour councillors have been suspended after posting anti-Semitic comments on Facebook - one claiming Israel was behind so-called IS.
Former Blackburn mayor Salim Mulla shared pictures suggesting that French and Japanese support for the Palestinians led to attacks by IS terrorists in retaliation.
He posted the images in August with the comment: "Is this a coincidence. You b***** daam right it is. We all know Zionism game being played.



"It's b***** obvious who is manupulating (sic) this. Those who are not sure. ISRAEL."
He also shared the same post that saw Bradford West MP Naz Shah suspended last week suggesting Israel be relocated in the US.

Mr Mulla was suspended within 30 minutes of his comments being disclosed on the Guido Fawkes website and only hours after Labour was forced to suspend Nottingham city councillor Ilyas Aziz for posts also suggesting Israel should be relocated to the US.
 

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You are STILL POSTING these RACIST BULLSHIT REPUBLICUNT TALK RADIO STATICS that have been DEBUNKED??????##)
Don't you watch FARCE NEWS?????
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Lol.....Joe caught posting lies again and gasman backing up those lies. Too funny

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Vitterd is sooo predictable. He posts some dumb shit with his white apologist mental issues...gets owned by multiple posters with facts that dont fit his agenda.....then he starts hurling out insults about the posters that are posting the facts.

This dude is a classic case of liberal loser justification...if you dont like the facts try to discredit the source. He does it in almost every thread (which is every thread on here)....once he loses the argument start attacking peoples character.

Doesnt like the stats on black/white cop shootings? Attack the source.

Doesnt like the fact about crime and gun violence in Dem controlled gun free cities? Atrack the right wing for driving the violence. Or blame it.on camera phones.

Do you take meds vit? Ill wait 30 seconds for your reply.

He certainly is.

poker fraud vtard never backs up anything he says, whether it's politics or his ridiculous outlandish claims about his millionaire life.

"It takes two to tango!"

"I win week in and week out!"

"I won't reveal my embarrassing Heritage balance because Joe will cheat!!"
:):)

Always deflecting, always twisting, always distorting, always making excuses...always attacking "sources"...never once addressing the facts and the issues.

28K+ posts and this mega broke loser has yet to back up even 1% of the bullshit he spews here 24/7.

At least Pavian posted links from Paul Krugman (misguided and wrong as he may be) mini Pavian posts directly out of his asshole on every front.
 

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