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Do You Believe There Is A God?

  • Yes There Is A God-I have no doubt

    Votes: 101 52.1%
  • I believe there Is A God, but I have my doubts

    Votes: 27 13.9%
  • No God- I don't believe in God becuase of no scientific evidence

    Votes: 28 14.4%
  • No God- I don't believe in God for other reason

    Votes: 13 6.7%
  • I don't care if there is a God or not.

    Votes: 9 4.6%
  • Not Sure What To Think

    Votes: 16 8.2%

  • Total voters
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this cop accuses man of having a mental illness.this guy should sue the police...he was only following what he had read in the bible..he is not mental


HAYDEN, Idaho (AP) -- A man who believed he bore the biblical "mark of the beast" used a circular saw to cut off one hand, then he cooked it in the microwave and called 911, authorities said.

The man, in his mid-20s, was calm when Kootenai County sheriff's deputies arrived Saturday. He was in protective custody in the mental health unit of Kootenai Medical Center.

"It had been somewhat cooked by the time the deputy arrived," sheriff's Capt. Ben Wolfinger said. "He put a tourniquet on his arm before, so he didn't bleed to death. That kind of mental illness is just sad."

It was not immediately clear whether the man has a history of mental illness. Hospital spokeswoman Lisa Johnson would not say whether an attempt was made to reattach the hand, citing patient confidentiality.

The Book of Revelation in the New Testament contains a passage in which an angel is quoted as saying: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink the wine of God's fury."

The book of Matthew also contains the passage: "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for you whole body to do into hell."
 

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from the usa today...check out their numbers...surprisingly close to the same numbers in this poll
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-01-09-unchurched-survey_N.htm?!?!


A new survey of U.S. adults who don't go to church, even on holidays, finds 72% say "God, a higher or supreme being, actually exists." But just as many (72%) also say the church is "full of hypocrites."

Indeed, 44% agree with the statement "Christians get on my nerves."

LifeWay Research, the research arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, based in Nashville, conducted the survey of 1,402 "unchurched" adults last spring and summer. The margin of error is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points.

The survey defines "unchurched" as people who had not attended a religious service in a church, synagogue or mosque at any time in the past six months.

More than one in five (22%) of Americans say they never go to church, the highest ever recorded by the General Social Survey, conducted every two years by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. In 2004, the percentage was 17%.

Many of the unchurched are shaky on Christian basics, says LifeWay Research director Ed Stetzer.

Just 52% agree on the essential Christian belief that "Jesus died and came back to life."

And 61% say the God of the Bible is "no different from the gods or spiritual beings depicted by world religions such as Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.," although Buddhist philosophy has no god and Hindus worship many.

Belief in 'a generic god'

Non-churchgoers "lean to a generic god that fits into every imaginable religious system, even when (systems) contradict one another," Stetzer says. "If you went back 100 years in North America, there would have been a consensus that God is the God in the Bible. We can't assume this any longer.

"We no longer have a home-field advantage as Christians in this culture."

Most of the unchurched (86%) say they believe they can have a "good relationship with God without belonging to a church." And 79% say "Christianity today is more about organized religion than loving God and loving people."

"These outsiders are making a clear comment that churches are not getting through on the two greatest commandments," to love God and love your neighbor, says Scott McConnell, associate director of LifeWay Research. "When they look at churches … they don't see people living out the faith."

But despite respondents' critical views of organized religion, Stetzer is optimistic. He cites the finding that 78% would "be willing to listen" to someone tell "what he or she believed about Christianity."

They already know believers — 89% of the unchurched have at least one close friend who is Christian, Stetzer noted.

And 71% agreed that "believing in Jesus makes a positive difference in a person's life."

"What surprised me is the openness of the hard-core unchurched to the message of God and Christianity — just not as expressed in church," Stetzer says.

"It's a personal thing, not an institutional thing. It's a matter of starting conversations."

The direct approach

Still, most of Christian belief has seeped into popular culture outside church walls and denominational tethers, says Philip Goff, a professor and director of the Center for the Study of Religion and American Culture at Indiana University in Indianapolis.

New forms of community, such as Internet Bible study and prayer circles, also mean some people don't believe they need a church, Goff says.

"Is there a workshop for churches in being less annoying, less hypocritical?" asks Arthur Farnsley, administrator for the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion and a fellow at Goff's center.

"So much of American religion today is therapeutic in approach, focused on things you want to fix in your life," he says.

"The one-to-one approach is more attractive. People don't go to institutions to fix their problems.

"Most people have already heard the basic Christian message. The question for evangelism now is: Do you have a take that is authentic and engaging in a way that works for the unchurched?"

MORE, AGREE OR DISAGREE: The God of the Bible is the same as the gods of world religions such as Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.


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regardless what you believe or do not believe

the zeigeist movie was rife of inaccuracies on both sides of the fence

it misrepresented more than one religion/dogma
 

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Yes of course there is a God

There is also the Devil, the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Sante Claus.


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No. My own introspections gradually freed me from fear of the dark, little green men, fairies, angels and righteous pastors. I want to face my own mortality without setting up straw rules and codes with some omnipotent bookmaker. I hope to live unfettered and free of silly cosmic parenting and deal with my shortcomings and successes as simple human endeavors, soon forgotten and soon dust. As to religions, I see them as simple government/businesses trading in the currency of power, control, group psychology, fear, cowardice, avarice, and greed. Religions are generational predators that will continue to suck the community energy out of men's endeavors until their cancerous growths can be removed by enlightened, educated, freethinking future societies. Similar to military and prison industries which flush social assets down a deadend toilet, religious industries miraclulously convert spirituality to its lowest and most hateful denominator. In my own experiences, I was agnostic toward churches until the recent rise of republican right wing fundamentalism. I loath these cowardly megachurch freaks who hate monger and scapegoat gays, women and scientific truth and spew their proselytizing diseases out into communities like a darkages plague. I respect spirituality in all, and especially appreciate those who are able to stand on their own two feet like a man instead of creeping around like a fearful church dungbeetle. There are good organizations that offer interesting alternative perspectives. One I like is the Freedom from Religion Foundation http://ffrf.org
 

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No. My own introspections gradually freed me from fear of the dark, little green men, fairies, angels and righteous pastors. I want to face my own mortality without setting up straw rules and codes with some omnipotent bookmaker. I hope to live unfettered and free of silly cosmic parenting and deal with my shortcomings and successes as simple human endeavors, soon forgotten and soon dust. As to religions, I see them as simple government/businesses trading in the currency of power, control, group psychology, fear, cowardice, avarice, and greed. Religions are generational predators that will continue to suck the community energy out of men's endeavors until their cancerous growths can be removed by enlightened, educated, freethinking future societies. Similar to military and prison industries which flush social assets down a deadend toilet, religious industries miraclulously convert spirituality to its lowest and most hateful denominator. In my own experiences, I was agnostic toward churches until the recent rise of republican right wing fundamentalism. I loath these cowardly megachurch freaks who hate monger and scapegoat gays, women and scientific truth and spew their proselytizing diseases out into communities like a darkages plague. I respect spirituality in all, and especially appreciate those who are able to stand on their own two feet like a man instead of creeping around like a fearful church dungbeetle. There are good organizations that offer interesting alternative perspectives. One I like is the Freedom from Religion Foundation http://ffrf.org

you gotta really hope your right, cuz if your not ur in trouble...

if you are right, you die anyway..if not,hell
if im wrong, i die anyway...if im right...heaven
 

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No doubt

There once was a time when there was a doubt in my mind. But, no more. Having a doubt is not a sin. The lord did not create creatures brainless enough to just blindly follow anything, and that even includes belief in him.

He created us with the mind capacity to be able to really get to every bitter detail about every single so called 'fact'. So that when we believe, it's because we REALLY believe,...we weren't brain washed by another manipulative man, or man written scripture. My take? Organized religions are a form of control. Belief in the Lord? Any man or woman can do so in his/her own way, by his/her own means, just as long he/she does not hurt anyone, or do anything unnatural.

I won't go into what is "unnatural" as that will start a debate bigger than I have time to maintain right now, lol. But, no, I no longer have a doubt in my mind the lord exists, and is our true "source" of life. But, don't get me wrong....I have the HIGHEST respect for churches, and other religions (I won't even curse near a church) and ANY symbol of someone else's faith.

The mere fact that my mind is powerful enough to do what it can do, and give me the ability to decide whether to believe anything said or written, is proof enough, that this mind, came from a creator, not spontaneous creation.
 

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I answer that, The <A href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608b.htm">existence of God can be proved in five ways.
The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another, for nothing can be in motion except it is in potentiality to that towards which it is in motion; whereas a thing moves inasmuch as it is in act. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality. But nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality, except by something in a state of actuality. Thus that which is actually hot, as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves and changes it. Now it is not possible that the same thing should be at once in actuality and potentiality in the same respect, but only in different respects. For what is actually hot cannot simultaneously be potentially hot; but it is simultaneously potentially cold. It is therefore impossible that in the same respect and in the same way a thing should be both mover and moved, i.e. that it should move itself. Therefore, whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another. If that by which it is put in motion be itself put in motion, then this also must needs be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover; seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover; as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.
The second way is from the nature of the efficient cause. In the world of sense we find there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known (neither is it, indeed, possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for so it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. Now in efficient causes it is not possible to go on to infinity, because in all efficient causes following in order, the first is the cause of the intermediate cause, and the intermediate is the cause of the ultimate cause, whether the intermediate cause be several, or only one. Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect. Therefore, if there be no first cause among efficient causes, there will be no ultimate, nor any intermediate cause. But if in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, neither will there be an ultimate effect, nor any intermediate efficient causes; all of which is plainly false. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.
The third way is taken from possibility and necessity, and runs thus. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence — which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary. But every necessary thing either has its necessity caused by another, or not. Now it is impossible to go on to infinity in necessary things which have their necessity caused by another, as has been already proved in regard to efficient causes. Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.
The fourth way is taken from the gradation to be found in things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble and the like. But "more" and "less" are predicated of different things, according as they resemble in their different ways something which is the maximum, as a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest; so that there is something which is truest, something best, something noblest and, consequently, something which is uttermost being; for those things that are greatest in truth are greatest in being, as it is written in Metaph. ii. Now the maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus; as fire, which is the maximum heat, is the cause of all hot things. Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God. The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

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the answer is here!!! Statistics prove here that the majority belive and what I see is 63% do agree, therefore if the majority belive !! then there must be a reason for that, no need for insults
 

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the answer is here!!! Statistics prove here that the majority belive and what I see is 63% do agree, therefore if the majority belive !! then there must be a reason for that, no need for insults


you are doing your guzentas wrong...what you really see is 63 people saying they believe with roughly the same amount of people saying they don't or have doubts or don't care...there must be a reason for that
 

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you are doing your guzentas wrong...what you really see is 63 people saying they believe with roughly the same amount of people saying they don't or have doubts or don't care...there must be a reason for that


actually the two highest %% come out to 66%, cause on the second one the have doublts yet they belive, therefore its 34% that dont, yet its the majority yet I understand what you mean

My way of seeing this is that you don't have to see to belive and nothing makes me happier to think that when I die there will be a GOD waiting for me:toast:
 

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God is the "Is" and what you should strive to be, he doesnt have a beard and is not waiting for you in Heaven.
 

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I have a neighbor who is 16 years old. She was raped and beaten. The nicest girl you could ever meet. This has changed there life forever. The guy that did this was a church going person. Hey Megatron, answer me this. TWO BABIES SICK IN THE HOSPITAL, BOTH FAMILIES PRAYING AND PRAYING FOR THEM. ONE BABY DIES, ONE BABY LIVES. WHY? Does god not like the other babby. Why is the world 70% screwed up . If they was a god wouldn't be 50-50

and you still wouldn't believe in God would you?

what separates heaven from Earth if there was a God according to you..You want Earth to be a heaven...what about satan?
 

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