Glancing through this thread, it appears that you were the one elected to denigrate practically every poster who said that they believe in God. You can really feel the condescension in your words. My question is why does it bother you so much that someone has chosen to put their faith in a higher power? I doubt if it would bother you nearly as much if I voiced any number of other beliefs that might seem silly to you. But it's obvious this particular issue really gets under your skin. It's not enough for you to simply have your outlook on the subject, you feel the need to set straight those with the opposite views. Just curious as to why.
Glancing through this thread, it appears that you were the one elected to denigrate practically every poster who said that they believe in God. You can really feel the condescension in your words. My question is why does it bother you so much that someone has chosen to put their faith in a higher power? I doubt if it would bother you nearly as much if I voiced any number of other beliefs that might seem silly to you. But it's obvious this particular issue really gets under your skin. It's not enough for you to simply have your outlook on the subject, you feel the need to set straight those with the opposite views. Just curious as to why.
Why? Because the political power that Evangelicals hold in this country is now fairly substantial and this puts us all in danger because no one tries to impose their will on other groups and beats the war drum more loudly than a Fundie.
Look, I believe you have the right to worship whoever or whatever you want. Praise Jeezus, dance with snakes in your hand, speak in tongues and do whatever the fuck it is you freaks do, just stay out of politics and stop trying to turn your beliefs into public policy.
PBR tastes like horse piss.
Epicurus slapped this all-powerful god nonsense down 300 years before Jeezus was alledgedly born:
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
I showed you the respect of asking your thoughts as an individual. I didn't lump you in with all non-believers...please don't accuse me of "beating the war drum" or "trying to turn my beliefs into public policy" without being able to substantiate your claim.
BTW, the PBR comment really hurt.
Just ask yourselves this simple question:
If we shut down all the hospitals and quit giving out medical care and just prayed god would care for us, would we be better off?
Or
If we didnt rely on technology to warn us of hurricanes/floods and natural disasters and just prayed to god to keep us safe, would we be better off?
If we shut down all the hospitals and quit giving out medical care and just prayed god would care for us, would we be better off?
Or
If we didnt rely on technology to warn us of hurricanes/floods and natural disasters and just prayed to god to keep us safe, would we be better off?
the meaing of "god" does hold some value with me. i look at it this way, when your a drug addict and you need "help" rehab is your god and savior. When you are weak minded or need a reason to not put you or others in danger or just need an excuse to try and motivate yourself to change your lifestyle then you "find god". it serves its purpose, not saying its true but everything has a purpose and the word or meaning "god" has his. The smartest business anyone has ever opened is called church.
has the eskimo tried to find "God," has he/she ventured out of their primal living and actually searched for the "truth"...I dont believe that by living in a primitive area and never trying to find any normal civilization or faith does not constitute an excuse...
and your earlier responses skins, you would like to believe there is a God, you want there to be, but there is no proof u say, thats why u cant for sure believe....one word, FAITH...you have to look at it like a christian, if God exists, gave his only son, saints, prohets, and disciples, the bible and the word of God to tell you he exists and yet you still dont belive because there is no physical proof..? then what more can he do...furthermore,if you need physical proof, or proof u can actually touch, and you dont belive in all the reources that have been given to you..maybe its on you to find proof or to actually seek ot the word of God
read this:
The following probabilities are taken from Peter Stoner in Science Speaks (Moody Press, 1963) to show that coincidence is ruled out by the science of probability. Stoner says that by using the modern science of probability in reference to eight prophecies, "we find that the chance that any man might have lived down to the present time and fulfilled all eight prophecies is 1 in 10<sup>17</sup>." That would be 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. In order to help us comprehend this staggering probability, Stoner illustrates it by supposing that "we take 10<sup>17</sup> silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep.
"Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly, all over the state. Blindfold a man and tell him that he can travel as far as he wishes, but he must pick up one silver dollar and say that this is the right one. What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man."
Stoner considers 48 prophecies and says, "we find the chance that any one man fulfilled all 48 prophecies to be 1 in 10<sup>157</sup>, or 1 in
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000, 000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
The estimated number of electrons in the universe is around 10<sup>79</sup>. It should be quite evident that Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies by accident." 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000, 000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
the fact is, if you believe or dont, I dont care...but the reason most people dont is physical proof...but if Jesus existed, and there is an actuall blood line from adam all the way to Jesus in the bible, isnt that some physical proof
how come the "earth" and evolution create computers then..how come "life" did not evolve to become a computer, if you really think about it...how come our bodies match up so perfectly,,,if evolution created a male monkey as the first specimen, how did at the same time in evolution did it create a female so they could procreate to make another..pretty good chances that the penis and vagina matched up so perfectly also, and just so happens that a sperm from a male can swim up inside a femal and reproduce with a female egg to form another human being..pretty big coincidence from evolution.. why cant we impregnate a lion then?
I agree, man has worshipped prolly over 1000 different gods...but only one God has sent his only son to die on the cross and perform miracles of healing and prove true scripture that was written 1000 years before him..im just making my case for "if there is a God"...people can believe what they want..
lets take old catholism belief, if it came down to it and you had to...would you bet your life that there was a god, or there is no god...
if bet your life that there was no god and you were right, you win nothin.just another say 50 years of live on earth..if your wrong, you simply spend an eternity in hell..
if I bet my life that there is a God, and Im wrong, I die, i lose the next 50 years, if im right, I spend an eternity with God and in Heaven...you better be sure there is no God, because when it comes down to my dying when Im 80 and the nnext guy who doesnt belive dying when he's 80..he bet his whole life there was no God, I bet there was...he dies, hes right, nothing.. i die, im right, eternity in heaven for me, eternity in hell for him
Santa Claus: Believe=presents
Dont believe=no presents
Both the existance of Santa Claus and god (any god) are equally unsupported by any evidence.
My niece believes in Santa Claus because she knows if she doesnt she wont get any presnets. However this does not make his existence true.
Dont believe=no presents
Both the existance of Santa Claus and god (any god) are equally unsupported by any evidence.
My niece believes in Santa Claus because she knows if she doesnt she wont get any presnets. However this does not make his existence true.
great rebuttle, comparing santa claus to jesus christ or the existence of a God...most ignorant argument yet on this thread...wheres the fucking santa clause bible, blood line or anything...and u are actually wrong..there was an "actual santa clause", names st. nick, used to bring prsents and gifts to the poor...the origin of it all.
god is watching you use the f' word and gamble...
according to the preacher i told to fuck off last week...you,i and my puppy will be sharing a suite in hell
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