Do Many Out There Still Believe Lebron James Is Better Than Michael Jordan?

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Is this a joke....

Lebron is not even close to kobe let alone mike

His basketball skills are not polished like kobe not even close


Lebron has absolutely no post up game what so ever for his size, his 3pt shot is avg at best he is and avg ft shooter, you can see it on his face he lacks the confidence and the will of a kobe who still practices his game every day lebron will never be close to kobe never

And some things still havent changed
 

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Yep, this is the same dude that Bowen played 5 feet off of and said go ahead and shoot but u ain't gonna dunk
 

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After tonight I wouldn't even put him in the same sentence as Dirk Nowitsky. Dirk played with a cold and kicked ass and has played like a champion throughout the series.
 

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jordan had the ability to see what was going on around him better than just about anyone-thats what made him the best player -imo-EVER! wade is one hellava athlete and comes close to jordans ability but he doesnt have the total pkg like jordan.(smarts) just my opinion:103631605
 

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what do you think Pippen is thinking now?
 

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Never Did. First, way too early to make the comparision. And while a gifted and talented player he falls short in several ways!!
 

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lol in this classic thread Enfuego basically is arguing against all the things he is arguing for in the LeChoke thread....

Saying LeBron's legacy forever tainted because he went to Miami, whereas now he says he thinks he will be 1 of the best ever
Saying Cavs were 1 player away in this thread, yet in that he says Cavs were terrible and LeBron had no help for 7 years

Also love the "destroyed his image" forever stuff. Seems like an appropriate bump given LeBron's rising to the occasion last night.
Got a kick out of reading this....
 

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Bird - They built a championship
Jordan - They built a championship
I. Thomas - They built a championship
M Johnson - They built a championship
Hakeem - They built a championship
Duncan - They built a championship
L James - Trying to buy a championship

Isn't it strange how all the greats on this list got drafted by their respective teams, remained on those teams through good and bad times and helped build the team into greatness? What is the name that doesn't fit on that list?

This is why he will never be on their level of greatness. It is what it is.

Oh really?
 

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epic bump.

Be prepared for Enfuego to tell us that he was right all along but we just misunderstood what he was saying back then.
 

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EF how you reconcile this?

Can I ask you a question? I think you're a reasonable guy and I think if I met you at a bar we'd actually sit down and have a few beers and get along just great and actually have some fun.

But why do you constantly search out threads in an attempt to find posters to just disagree with? I don't see you post all day and then you randomly show up out of the blue like a used vacuum cleaner salesman and just want to argue all day. I don't get it.
 

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epic bump.

Be prepared for Enfuego to tell us that he was right all along but we just misunderstood what he was saying back then.

There's a few things going on in this thread and the other that aren't quite the same. First, in the other thread we are really talking about LBJ's performance compared to MJ's after their first 10 years in the league. We aren't talking about their entire body of work so I think so guys are confused by that. Second, I think people actually think I like and support LBJ which I don't. I can't stand the guy.

Right now, I think LBJ's career is equal or better than MJ's career was after 10 years in the league. He's definitely not better than MJ and I've never argued that. LBJ will always be hated for what he did to the Cavs and how he left with the "decision" and nothing will change that. I bet if he had to do it all over again, he would change things but what's done is done.

I don't really even know what the discussion is about any longer.
 

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Can I ask you a question? I think you're a reasonable guy and I think if I met you at a bar we'd actually sit down and have a few beers and get along just great and actually have some fun.

But why do you constantly search out threads in an attempt to find posters to just disagree with? I don't see you post all day and then you randomly show up out of the blue like a used vacuum cleaner salesman and just want to argue all day. I don't get it.

You serious? You and I go back and forth in this thread, you are bashing LeBron and then in another thread you are saying he is 1 of the best ever.

Obviously if I was debating that I think LeBron wasn't wrong to leave Cle or whatever in this thread and you are debating whatever you were, why wouldn't I bump it when you are now saying something to the contrary?

Constantly search out threads? I dunno I don't think I do that, I just remembered this one. Does it offend you I bumped it or something? After I bumped it it was called an "epic bump" so I'm guessing other people thought it was a cool bump like I did.
 

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There's a few things going on in this thread and the other that aren't quite the same. First, in the other thread we are really talking about LBJ's performance compared to MJ's after their first 10 years in the league. We aren't talking about their entire body of work so I think so guys are confused by that. Second, I think people actually think I like and support LBJ which I don't. I can't stand the guy.

Right now, I think LBJ's career is equal or better than MJ's career was after 10 years in the league. He's definitely not better than MJ and I've never argued that. LBJ will always be hated for what he did to the Cavs and how he left with the "decision" and nothing will change that. I bet if he had to do it all over again, he would change things but what's done is done.

I don't really even know what the discussion is about any longer.


So do you still think he will never be at the level of greatness of other great players because he left Cleveland to join Miami or no?

In the other thread you seem to think he is fast approaching becoming known as 1 of the best ever.
 

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You serious? You and I go back and forth in this thread, you are bashing LeBron and then in another thread you are saying he is 1 of the best ever.

Obviously if I was debating that I think LeBron wasn't wrong to leave Cle or whatever in this thread and you are debating whatever you were, why wouldn't I bump it when you are now saying something to the contrary?

Constantly search out threads? I dunno I don't think I do that, I just remembered this one. Does it offend you I bumped it or something? After I bumped it it was called an "epic bump" so I'm guessing other people thought it was a cool bump like I did.

At the end of the day Pats I think for some reason you enjoy going back and forth with me which is cool I guess but I just don't get why enjoyment out of it. It does not offend me at all.

Am I not allowed to say I hate LBJ but think he's one of the best ever? I hate Barry Bonds but he was a great baseball player.
 

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So do you still think he will never be at the level of greatness of other great players because he left Cleveland to join Miami or no?

In the other thread you seem to think he is fast approaching becoming known as 1 of the best ever.

Two different dynamics. Think his play will statistically make him one of the greatest but people will forever equate him with moving from Cleveland to Miami and how that all happened. That move will be part of his legacy despite his numbers and a lot of people will hate him despite his play on the court.
 

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Two different dynamics. Think his play will statistically make him one of the greatest but people will forever equate him with moving from Cleveland to Miami and how that all happened. That move will be part of his legacy despite his numbers and a lot of people will hate him despite his play on the court.

I'm sure some people will, you're always going to have detractors with the media/social media landscape being what it is in 2013.

I did not mean to offend you I just think it is funny you said he will never be on the level of other legends because he left Cleveland and now think his first 10 years > MJs and he is on a trajectory to be 1 of the best ever.

You were ripping him ITT for not staying in Cle but it seems you have no problem with him leaving Cle now.
 

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I'm sure some people will, you're always going to have detractors with the media/social media landscape being what it is in 2013.

I did not mean to offend you I just think it is funny you said he will never be on the level of other legends because he left Cleveland and now think his first 10 years > MJs and he is on a trajectory to be 1 of the best ever.

You were ripping him ITT for not staying in Cle but it seems you have no problem with him leaving Cle now.

You aren't offending me at all Pats.

Guess what I'm saying (and I think you see it in the other thread) is that his numbers can be great and he can put up even better numbers overall than Jordan but some guys will never buy into it simply because of how he left Cleveland. People are funny, they will forgive but never forget. I hate the guy. I think the way he left was shitty on all levels and I'll never respect him because of it but I really respect his game. Does all of that make sense?
 

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