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Nah, it might be lopsided but there have been many lopsided sides. People always act like everything at the moment is the biggest or this or that.
 

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they know what they are doing.
seattle has the best secondary...possibly ever.
linebacking not so great.
donkeys still have a 30th ranked defense.
books know what they are doing
many times they gamble themselves rather than just take vig

totally agree. and that's the difference between a private local booking this game and Vegas. they have the financial backing to be able to go for the throat here, whereas a tiny operation will be sweating major balls. no one.. and i mean no one.. will like Seattle at anything less than +3.

that's why if i'm just a small local, i wouldn't personally offer this game below several key numbers because 'gambling' wouldn't fit my business model.

books are also going to get crushed with Denver money on alternate lines like... -3' +150, -6' +220, etc.
 

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Already leaning Seattle and the ML, but I'm going to have to think about this one.

I'm still not convinced the Broncos can do well in cold weather, plus they haven't played a defense anywhere near as fast and hard-hitting as Seattle. Think the weather may be the biggest factor, though. Seattle much more suited to play in the cold.

It's gonna be a pretty epic two weeks leading up to kickoff.
 

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By what stat does Denver have the 30th ranked defense? They are basically middle of the road in every category, except 25th in rushing but 6th in passing
 

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motowner you are public too

gyno, listen to what i'm saying.. i'm not talking about who's the 'right side' to play in this game. i'm talking about the art of bookmaking and how oddsmakers need to read the pre-betting markets before posting a line.

it was so painfully obvious that the public would be in love with Denver that it made absolutely no sense to open this line below at least 3 key numbers (-3, -3',-4) unless the books were willing to 'gamble' (like seer and I have been saying) on the outcome.

if i was a small local, i couldn't care less about the outcome.. i just want balanced action!

Vegas is taking an enormous stand on Seattle, which i hope hits for them, but that's not one i could follow if i'm just a small operation.
 

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Seattle will win. Denver got their yards but still settled for FG's against vastly inferior defenses. All this talk about Seattle struggling on offense...if they could put up 23 vs a top 3 defense what do you think they will do to the Broncos? +3 would be a gift.
 

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Seattle will win. Denver got their yards but still settled for FG's against vastly inferior defenses. All this talk about Seattle struggling on offense...if they could put up 23 vs a top 3 defense what do you think they will do to the Broncos? +3 would be a gift.

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The key thing about Sea though is their home/away splits. Are they the same team away from the nest? Russel Wilson on the biggest stage against Peyton Manning?
 

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The key thing about Sea though is their home/away splits. Are they the same team away from the nest? Russel Wilson on the biggest stage against Peyton Manning?

Interesting common denominator between the two teams:

- both went 6-2 on the road (and 7-1 at home)
- both lost @ Indianapolis by 6 points (both games in October, 2 weeks apart)
- both teams lost @ teams they eventually had re-matches against in the conference championships (both DEN and SEA led in the 4th quarter of the regular season games)

-etc
 

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yeah I meant 26th in passing not 6th. Not great by any means, just wondering if you were using a particular stat. That's for the reg season only.
 

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The key thing about Sea though is their home/away splits. Are they the same team away from the nest? Russel Wilson on the biggest stage against Peyton Manning?

the crowd noise helps no doubt. still it is manning vs the best dbs in the league. also it is beast mode vs a very average linebacking crew.like i said teams had to abandon the run vs denver when they fell behind but still they allowed 100yds plus on the ground. considering how many times those teams that ran the ball. i will bet the prop giving beast mode more than watever yds they post. prolly 95.5 i will take over
 

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yeah I meant 26th in passing not 6th. Not great by any means, just wondering if you were using a particular stat. That's for the reg season only.

it is the best guide we can go with.
u also have to consider that seattle had the tougher sched so for denver to be that low on defense spells volumes
 

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Yeah but I'm not afraid of Russel Wilson one bit. Load the box against Lynch, make Wilson beat you.
 

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Yeah but I'm not afraid of Russel Wilson one bit. Load the box against Lynch, make Wilson beat you.

with a 27th ranked secondary i would be, but yeah that is what they will have to do ur right about that
 

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the broken run - pass plays will give denver troubles though
 

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advantages..

QB: Denver (big)
OL: Denver (big)
RB: Seattle
TE/WR: Denver
DL: Seattle
LB: Denver
Secondary: Seattle (big)
Kicking: Even
Coaching: Seattle
 

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advantages..

QB: Denver (big)
OL: Denver (big)
RB: Seattle
TE/WR: Denver
DL: Seattle
LB: Denver
Secondary: Seattle (big)
Kicking: Even
Coaching: Seattle

WR/TE should be big for Den as well
I think their kick punt might be better as well but who knows
 

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