I am a UGA homer, but I rarely bet them. I have a strong record with followers here from years past and can tell you that OSU is not that good of a squad. The defense in the Big 12 is absolutely terrible for the most part. A new DC will help...a little. The level of play physically speaking doesnt even compare to the SEC. Shit, Ohio state shoulda beat texas, Ole miss couldnt score all season and put 52 up on TT (a "highpowered scoring machine"). The defense is always read before the offense as seasons start. All this said, if there was ever a time to get UGA, this is it. They are gonna take a little while to get clicking, but I really dont see them struggling with OSU. They are going to run wild. As for saying it is high pressure and national tv (russ)...UGA plays half their games every year on national tv. Thats normalcy, not pressure. Will I load up on UGA?? Not at the moment. But to say they are in over their head is incredibly stupid. Should be a great game. I will be there. Cant wait
My apologies for saying "they couldnt score". Everyone scored against LSU last year, but still, my comment should not have been worded that way. The take home point was that they dropped a 52 spot (season high) against a high scoring team (high scoring because of the defenses they play). This game is a perfect argument against the "georgia wont keep up with a high scoring big 12 team".
I don't think anyone is comparing the Geo/OSU offenses in a SEC vs Big 12 South way. It is just that OSU has a clear exerience adavantage at the skill positions. Georgia may be searching for an offensive identity whereas OSU is more established. Ditto the defenses. You were taking bowl games as examples and both Texas and T Tech had the air let out of their balloons going into the bowls. If Georgia is not able to handle some blitzes then it might catch up with them. No one is expecting them to just roll over but most people will be surprised if they are able to trade points on the road in an opener with a QB with 1 start under his belt. I think the OSU defense will surprise some people.
I think the best way to play this game is the Over, provided we get a halfway decent number. I don't think either of these two teams will be able to really stop each other. Although I respect the physical play of Georgia and the SEC, this OSU team could have the best offense in the country. And with the exception of maybe a Florida team who scored 49 on Georgia last season, I don't think the Dawgs have seen an offense even remotely this good in the SEC. Stillwater is a tough place to play. When the Pokes get a lead there, it's very hard to come back. Unlike a lot of stadiums, the fans are located right there on the field. And the noise can be deafening. I don't know how a new QB and skill players are going to react to a situation like that. But that first big out of conference game at Boone Pickens Stadium is going to be a wild enviornment....Can't wait.
A prop to bet since week 1 lines still arent posted.
-Whether or not 5*jake reads this thread during the weekend after a bump.
yes -1000
no +850
limit $300 and no rebets at same #.
Considering how cris dragged feet and waited a while after other books opened posting win totals, this year I expect them to wait longer to post openers than previous years.
That 5 week breathing time you posted bellyputter could get reduced to 3 this season.
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football lines that is)
Understatement of this long, hot summer. Oklahoma State will never go anywhere with Gundy running that program. If you listened to him at Big XII Media Days, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Why isn't this guy an Offensive Coordinator? It baffles me why Pickens has kept him around this long. Gundy's said firsthand that he does not have any input on the defensive scheming/ playcalling. Does this not worry OSU backers?
I don't see how anybody can pass up taking a hardnosed SEC team GETTING points against a team that's getting sugar blown up their ass all summer long. Sure, the stadium will be rocking, but something tells me Georgia's been in some "rocking" stadiums before. I'm making a call and saying Gundy's done after this year. I think the Georgia game is one of the most important games of Gundy's career. If OSU loses that game, I don't see Gundy holding the team together.
I have been wagering on football longer than some of you have been around (yea I'm an old fart). I have done very well by sticking to a few simple rules.
Rule #1. Bet with your head, not your heart. That means no wagers on my alma mater, USC, for or against, over or under. Since I do not have a "favorite" pro team, I do not have that problem on that side of the ledger.
#2. Keep It Simple Stupid. The old "KISS" theory has worked for me. I normally do not wager on a lot of games, compared to some, but my wagers are very large. Therefore well over 90% of my wagers are what I call 1 unit. Last year I only made one wager for more than 1 unit, and that was the first wager I made, which was Florida minus everything I could get against Hawaii. The wagers ranged from -34 to -35.5.
#3. I rarely, if ever, wager on parlays or teasers. They are strictly sucker plays. It is tough enough picking two winners, but to lose all of your money when you go 1-1 is even tougher. The more teams you take in a parlay, the bigger the slice is for the book. I do not like giving them 10%, much less 13, 14% or more.
#4. Be a leader, not a follower. 95% of the people in this country are followers. I never follow or "tail" anyone when it comes to wagering. My wagers are my own. If you have to "tail" someone, you should not be wagering.
#5. There is such a thing as too much information, especially if you use technical information as part of your handicapping. I tend to use less and less technical information as the season goes on. You can probably find a reason to back any team if you look hard enough. That is certainly the case with angles and trends. Stick to your formula and do not look for reasons to wager on or against a team. The wager is either there, or not there.
Finally, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, remember that many of the best moves you will make this year will be made on the games that you DO NOT wager on. It is as much about not losing money as it is about making money. You do not have to have a wager down to watch a game. That thinking is strictly for the 86% of the gamblers out there who end up in the red after the season ends. Trust your gut. If the wager just does not feel right, PASS.
Good Luck to all this season. I will post a few things that myself and my associates do that are a bit different from the norm whenit comes to wagering. Things such as taking "leads", and looking for the reason why lines unexplainably move one way or the other. There are hundreds of tricks to the trade.
Rule #1. Bet with your head, not your heart. That means no wagers on my alma mater, USC, for or against, over or under. Since I do not have a "favorite" pro team, I do not have that problem on that side of the ledger.
#2. Keep It Simple Stupid. The old "KISS" theory has worked for me. I normally do not wager on a lot of games, compared to some, but my wagers are very large. Therefore well over 90% of my wagers are what I call 1 unit. Last year I only made one wager for more than 1 unit, and that was the first wager I made, which was Florida minus everything I could get against Hawaii. The wagers ranged from -34 to -35.5.
#3. I rarely, if ever, wager on parlays or teasers. They are strictly sucker plays. It is tough enough picking two winners, but to lose all of your money when you go 1-1 is even tougher. The more teams you take in a parlay, the bigger the slice is for the book. I do not like giving them 10%, much less 13, 14% or more.
#4. Be a leader, not a follower. 95% of the people in this country are followers. I never follow or "tail" anyone when it comes to wagering. My wagers are my own. If you have to "tail" someone, you should not be wagering.
#5. There is such a thing as too much information, especially if you use technical information as part of your handicapping. I tend to use less and less technical information as the season goes on. You can probably find a reason to back any team if you look hard enough. That is certainly the case with angles and trends. Stick to your formula and do not look for reasons to wager on or against a team. The wager is either there, or not there.
Finally, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, remember that many of the best moves you will make this year will be made on the games that you DO NOT wager on. It is as much about not losing money as it is about making money. You do not have to have a wager down to watch a game. That thinking is strictly for the 86% of the gamblers out there who end up in the red after the season ends. Trust your gut. If the wager just does not feel right, PASS.
Good Luck to all this season. I will post a few things that myself and my associates do that are a bit different from the norm whenit comes to wagering. Things such as taking "leads", and looking for the reason why lines unexplainably move one way or the other. There are hundreds of tricks to the trade.
GS: You are exactly right. That will be a wild environment and although the stadium holds less than 50,000 the proximity of the crowd makes it a tough place to play (absolutely not enough room from the sidelines to the stands). It is hard to explain to people outside of Oklahoma how big an opener this is for OSU. It appears some people on here are down on Gundy but I don't get that vibe myself. Expectations are big and it is kind of like a Boise St vs. Oregon atmosphere in Stillwater. The OSU offense is so experienced and they can score on anyone. I do agree that if they were to lose to Georgia is would take the wind out of their sail but OSU fans would take another 9-4 season and I think Gundy's job is pretty secure. After the opener Georgia's offense will improve as will the OSU defense. I think too many people are lumping this game into a somewhat typical SEC vs Big 12 matchup with Georgia (the SEC team) being way too physical for OSU. Later on in the season it might turnout differently but on Sept 5 I think OSU has some distinct advantages.
No question that Okie State has a major advantage playing this early. Their offense is basically set. Georgia has to deal with a new backfield. Now we know that Georgia has a better defense than Okie State. Most teams in the nation have a better defense than Okie State, but the question is can your offense keep their offense off the field? Okie State is going to score a lot when they get the ball, no matter how good your defense is, so the easiest way of keeping their score down is to keep the ball away from them.
