And the funny thing is... he uses lines that HE doesn't even have access to.
He has stated over and over again that he uses an Ace23 website as his book... yet he posts lines from the station casinos here in Vegas, sometimes the Mirage, also in Vegas... or one of a dozen online books he doesn't even use.
Shady as hell. A real handicapper would use books they have access to AND USE.
Like myself, I use the lines I wager on here in Vegas... You wont ever see me using an online book that I don't have an account at and never a line from offshore.
Yet he thinks its ok to use a line from the Mirage in Vegas for one play, then on that same day use a line from 5Dimes... when he lives on the East Coast.
I would give him more credit if he just used either Vegas lines (from Vegas casinos) or just a couple offshore books. Cause who would open accounts at a dozen offshore books AND move to vegas just to get the lines Cats does?
but wait, his excuse is "All handicappers (touts) do that with the lines" ... but yet he also states "Im not like all the others" ....
What cats doesn't get is that when people PAY for picks.. that $$ counts as LOSSES to your bankroll.
He thinks.. "Oh I made them +15 units for the whole season".. but doesn't seem to want to account for the $1700+ that they paid for picks and subtract that from the bankroll.
Like I stated earlier VERY FEW (if any) made any money following his plays. The MOST they could have made following him (I did the math and posted it in a lot of earlier threads) was a whopping +1.98%.... Most (if not all) Lost between -5% to -47%.
Lets not FORGET all the juice that the players had to spend cause they cant get lines cats has. They don't have accounts at 12 different offshore books, and most don't live in Vegas. So they weren't able to get "his lines".
So if you account for the lines THEY CANT GET, and had to pay higher juice, or unavailable lines... most bettors lost money if they followed him last season. Or if they do have accounts in every offshore book, and are able to fly to Vegas on a whim, or spend gas driving to all the sportsbooks... they still lost money.
I don't see how anyone believes he made anyone money this season? Except for Cats.... Who doesn't take into account higher juice, cost for picks... etc...
This is quite amazing as well . . .
04/11/13 Chi. White Sox at Washington Under (8.0, +100) Atlantis Lost (-100)
04/11/13 Toronto at Detroit Under (8.0, -110) BetGrande Lost (-110)
04/10/13 Houston at Seattle Under (7.5, -105) 5Dimes Lost (-105)
04/10/13 Pittsburgh at Arizona Under (9.0, +100) Mirage-MGM No Play
04/10/13 Tampa Bay at Texas Under (9.5, -120) Caesars/Harrah's Won (+100)
04/09/13 L.A. Dodgers at San Diego Under (7, -110) 5Dimes Lost (-110)
04/08/13 Colorado at San Francisco Under (7.0, -120) Atlantis Won (+100)
04/08/13 Tampa Bay at Texas Over (9.0, -120) Caesars/Harrah's Push
04/08/13 N.Y. Mets at Philadelphia Under (8.0, -120) Caesars/Harrah's Lost (-120)
04/07/13 Washington at Cincinnati Under (7.0, -115) BetGrande Lost (-115)
04/07/13 N.Y. Yankees at Detroit Under (7.0, +105) Stations Push
04/07/13 Oakland at Houston Under (8.0, -105) Atlantis Lost (-105)
04/06/13 St. Louis at San Francisco Under (7, -115) 5Dimes Lost (-115)
04/06/13 FLA at N.Y. Mets Under (7, -120) 5Dimes Lost (-120)
04/06/13 Oakland at Houston Under (8.5, -120) Caesars/Harrah's Lost (-120)
So on April 6th, he placed a wager here in Vegas, at Ceasars Palace and also logged on to 5dimes to make a wager. THEN the next morning he rushes to one of the Station Casinos here in Vegas to make a wager.. THEN (on the same day) Takes an 8 hour flight (has to deplane and catch a connecting flight) to the Atlantis Casino, to place another wager... He must have stayed the night, cause the next day he placed another wager while at the Atlantis casino .... THEN took a 5hour 30min flight back to Vegas (cant forget those east to west flight headwinds), just to make a wager at Ceasars palace here in Vegas for a 5pm Vegas Time game.... That's where it gets fuzzy...
9AM: Atlantis sportsbook opens.. he is first in line to make a bet. Rushes to the airport (its roughly a 30 minute ride). Leaving the casino, + make a wager + Travel time appx 45 minutes.
945AM: Checking flight history, the next flight out of there would put him at a 1035AM flight, which would bring him to NYC LaGuardia Airport.... or 1050AM to Philadelphia . So lets say he takes the soonest one.... to NYC leaving at 1035AM.
155PM: Arrives in NYC LaGuardia Airport.... Soonest direct flight to Las Vegas leaves at approximately 245PM and arrives ... He WONT make it in time to bet the Detroit/Yankees game at ANY stations casino in Vegas.... and NEWSFLASH... If he left out of Philly, he wouldn't make it either....
Same thing the next day... He made 2 wagers here in Vegas at the Ceasars Palace... Then took the long flight to the Atlantis Casino to wager on 1 game.... the next day I guess he flew back cause on the 9th of Arpil, he only wagered @ 5Dimes... But sometime on the 9th, he made the long trip back to Vegas to make a couple more wagers at Ceasars Palace for the 10th of Arpil.
Wow he must have some magical Star Trek type transporters or something if he is able to bet at 2 different places at once... or he is able to reshape the tendrils of time, where he isn't affected by time itself.
Its amazing the things he can do, and how many online sportsbook accounts he has, and how many different casinos he is able to walk in and bet at. All the while traveling to the Islands and Vegas, back and fourth, just to save a nickel on juice.
(Don't forget he must have left Vegas as soon as he made those bets on Aprill 10th... cause the next morning he was back in Atlantis betting a day game on April 11th)
See, Trends, this is why it's annoying arguing with you because you're like a broken record - even though I ALREADY explained all of this, whether it be earlier in this thread or another, you choose to randomly bring it up again in an attempt to "educate" newer people about me concerning this subject, so let me again refute these INCORRECT points you bring up. There are two main issues that I will, once again, end right here:
A)I don't "post lines from Vegas casinos." I have no control over that. Vegas Insider is somehow associated with those casinos or something, which is why when us handicappers post any sort of pick, it will have one of those casino names attached to it based on some type of affiliation program. Again,
I have no control over that. But here's the main point concerning this subject: When it comes to what I do - baseball over/unders -
it doesn't matter. Why? Well, in just about all cases, the LINE IS THE EXACT SAME, since an over/under in a baseball game is usually sharp and universal. For example, if a game is 6.5 on one book, it will almost always be 6.5 anywhere else. A lot more times than not, that is the case, and in the process, the value is usually the same also. Are you really going to cry if my line exhibited is -110, and the only value they can get is -115? Lol are you serious, man? That's actually pretty funny and shows how desperate you are. Again, it doesn't matter where someone can get the line because in just about all cases,
the line is the SAME. They are baseball over/unders, therefore meaning there's not much dimension for them. If a game is over/under 8, odds are it will be 8 everywhere on the globe. Holy shit, man, you're like a girl trying to argue this stuff. It's annoying.
B)Again, your math is off and illogical. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR EXTREMELY THICK HEAD? The amount that I'm up with my games shown on the site is
if every game was flat-bet to win $100... and guess what, these rich customers/clients of mine don't spend all this money to win a measly $100 per game that they acquire from me. Do you really think rich people play for that little money? Obviously that's not "little money" to me, but for THIS specific portion of the gambling population, in which there is a significant chunk of people who choose to invest thousands per game on me or other successful handicappers, THEY risk A LOT more than the flat-bet $100 system that is in place on the site. So, AGAIN, all that little math you did is way off because it only measures if all of my rich clients were playing to win $100 per game, and I can assure you that play for farrrrr more than that. In other words, they made a fortune off me if they're risking to win, say, $1,000 per game, which your math does not even measure AT ALL. Which is why I can expect to sell pllllentyyy of my $500 packages, and you can continue to be jealous while I rake in all of those considerable profits - which are warranted AS LONG as I continue to make my clients a lot of money. You got a problem with that? Or are you just jealous that you're not sure you can perform under such high-pressure situations? When multiple people are paying you several hundreds of dollars for your work?
I've explained both of these issues in-depth to you before. Hopefully you can finally shut the fuck up with saying the saaaammmmme damn things over and over and over. That should clear it up to the other uneducated sheep that were unaware. Congrats, your main argument (Your "math" that shows people wouldn't be up much from my bets haha) is now dead.
