yes sir i understand that. i guess thats why it is so difficult to learn? i will say this though, from the few times ive tried to play correctly online there is more to it than what i used to do. it is still kind of boring to me but as i try to understand what is going on and the more i try to watch other players and/or try to read their hands, it is definitely more interesting.
in fact i was driving in my truck a few minutes ago and thought that it was kind of like the way americans view soccer, at least in my area of the country, its kind of boring and slow paced until you try to understand the game and what all is going on. im starting to like it!
The point is, you are going to lose at a pretty high rate while you're learning. That's just a fact you're going to have to get comfortable with.
So I mean go ahead and play 25/50 if your bankroll can handle it. It's just pretty much a guarantee that you will lose 5x more than 5/10...probably more because the players are better.
I guess it just depends on how much you want to pay for your "lessons".
The idea is to learn how to beat the bad players first. If you can't beat the bad players, you stand no chance against even better players. Not trying to discourage you, just shooting straight.
ok. played 1-3 nl at the casino last night. one major thing i noticed is that i guess "recreational" players, or ones that are only there for a couple of hours or whatever really like to gamble. while i was folding most of my hands since i was trying to remember the starting hands based on the chart in this thread, these guys were raising from an early position for 20 bucks preflop and checking it down the rest of the way or folding. very odd to me, first the huge raise and then the play in general. i guess it didnt seem like anyone there was really "working" on their game.
there was however one middle aged guy that was very quiet, no chit chat that had most of the money at the table. prob 800 bucks or so. anyway, i got in a hand with him with jj in late pos, he was in bb. everyone folded to me so i raised it to 12. flop comes blanks and i bet again and he calls. turn nothing, i bet again and he calls. river, blank this time he bets into me, i fold my jacks thinking maybe he had two pair. i asked if i could see his cards he shows me kk. good experience, i'll go back soon.
there was however one middle aged guy that was very quiet, no chit chat that had most of the money at the table. prob 800 bucks or so. anyway, i got in a hand with him with jj in late pos, he was in bb. everyone folded to me so i raised it to 12. flop comes blanks and i bet again and he calls. turn nothing, i bet again and he calls. river, blank this time he bets into me, i fold my jacks thinking maybe he had two pair. i asked if i could see his cards he shows me kk. good experience, i'll go back soon.
This is when pots odds comes into play . There was a lot of money in the pot when he made that river bet.
How much was the river bet?
If it was only 20 or something like that unless you had a tremendous read you probably should have called even though he had KK if there was 100 in the pot and he bet 20 on the river that means if you felt like you had a 20% chance of winning you should have called.
you happened to be correct in this case but a call would have been justified in that case. He would have made the same bet with 10/10.
Frankly both of you played that hand poorly .
You built the pot up so large with guy flop and turn bets.
You asked earlier about pot odds.
Take the 50 he bet and add in the money already in the pot.
If his 50 bet made the pot equal 150 it would only cost you another 50 to have a chance of taking down a now 200$ pot .
So that's when you need to figure out pot odds.
You don't need to have at least a 50% chance of winning the pot in order for it to be a good call.
little frustrated right now. went in a few times today with what was the best hand and get beat on a fucking river card every time. it made me so mad i had to stop playing for the day. now all i can think abt is what i did wrong to let them hang arnd to see that last card. fuck!!! makes me want to move to higher stakes to minimize this shit
You could move up to 100000/200000 and you will never eliminate that.
You gonna have to learn how to deal with that.
Its part of the game.
If you are not the kind of person that can get over it you might want to stop right now.
