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Floating is when you call a bet on the flop with nothing, and maybe even no draw - but you think your opponent is weak, and you can
take the pot away from them on future streets with a bluff. I wouldn't advise trying this until you've mastered some of the more
basic concepts. As you have to have a couple reads on your opponent to do this: 1. that they are weak 2. that they will actually lay
down their hand to a bluff

And if you have an ABC image, I'm sure it works like a charm if done sparingly.

Table image is another super important aspect of all this. A HUD helps a lot with this too cause you can see your own stats from that session, and it will help you become self-aware of how others are perceiving you.

It doesn't even really matter what your table image is, as long as you are aware of it and know how to exploit it. If you realize you've been playing super tight, others have probably noticed, and you can start to exploit that by bluffing and floating and 3 betting pre. If others think you are a maniac, tighten up and then bang it with a good hand. Note that both of these shifts in strategy will bring your VPIP and PFR into line with the overall tight/aggressive style you want to be playing.

Like, drpugilist said he only saw 3 flops in an hour (or whatever). About a half hour into that, your solid image was established, and you should have been bluffing more...thereby upping your VPIP to be more "normal" and less predictable. If it stays too low you won't get any action on your monsters.
 

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And if you have an ABC image, I'm sure it works like a charm if done sparingly.

Table image is another super important aspect of all this. A HUD helps a lot with this too cause you can see your own stats from that session, and it will help you become self-aware of how others are perceiving you.

It doesn't even really matter what your table image is, as long as you are aware of it and know how to exploit it. If you realize you've been playing super tight, others have probably noticed, and you can start to exploit that by bluffing and floating and 3 betting pre. If others think you are a maniac, tighten up and then bang it with a good hand. Note that both of these shifts in strategy will bring your VPIP and PFR into line with the overall tight/aggressive style you want to be playing.

Like, drpugilist said he only saw 3 flops in an hour (or whatever). About a half hour into that, your solid image was established, and you should have been bluffing more...thereby upping your VPIP to be more "normal" and less predictable. If it stays too low you won't get any action on your monsters.

vpip?
pfr?

also where do i get this hud thing?
 
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One of the biggest mistakes I see players make (that I find rather funny at times), is betting their hand according to the strength of the hand, and therefore not inducing a call.

If you have the best hand (after the river), you want to size your bet so that you'll get called.

When I was playing in Tahoe a couple weeks ago, some guy had a full house after the river, and made a huge bet, and everyone folded. Someone made the comment
"Why such a big bet?" And he said very matter-of-factly: "I had to bet huge, I had a huge hand." And he showed the full house. I chuckled to myself, because
he thought he made the right play, when he clearly did not, and he cost himself a chunk of money/value. If you have a hand like that, you want the calls. It's free money.
If I remember right, I was thinking that there were at least 2 players in the pot that would have called if he would have bet something like 1/3 of the pot.
 

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One of the biggest mistakes I see players make (that I find rather funny at times), is betting their hand according to the strength of the hand, and therefore not inducing a call.

If you have the best hand (after the river), you want to size your bet so that you'll get called.

When I was playing in Tahoe a couple weeks ago, some guy had a full house after the river, and made a huge bet, and everyone folded. Someone made the comment
"Why such a big bet?" And he said very matter-of-factly: "I had to bet huge, I had a huge hand." And he showed the full house. I chuckled to myself, because
he thought he made the right play, when he clearly did not, and he cost himself a chunk of money/value. If you have a hand like that, you want the calls. It's free money.
If I remember right, I was thinking that there were at least 2 players in the pot that would have called if he would have bet something like 1/3 of the pot.

that guy may be worse than i am
 
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One of the biggest mistakes I see players make (that I find rather funny at times), is betting their hand according to the strength of the hand, and therefore not inducing a call.

If you have the best hand (after the river), you want to size your bet so that you'll get called.

When I was playing in Tahoe a couple weeks ago, some guy had a full house after the river, and made a huge bet, and everyone folded. Someone made the comment
"Why such a big bet?" And he said very matter-of-factly: "I had to bet huge, I had a huge hand." And he showed the full house. I chuckled to myself, because
he thought he made the right play, when he clearly did not, and he cost himself a chunk of money/value. If you have a hand like that, you want the calls. It's free money.
If I remember right, I was thinking that there were at least 2 players in the pot that would have called if he would have bet something like 1/3 of the pot.

It's also very common to see players call small bets on the river and say "I don't have anything, I just want to see it." Free money there as well. If I have a read
that someone has nothing after the river, and I have a monster (or just the best hand). I'll put a small bet out there for this very reason, bad players just want
to give you money to see your hand.
 

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vpip?
pfr?

also where do i get this hud thing?

VPIP = Voluntarily Put Into Pot = %age of time a player voluntarily puts money into the pot preflop. An overall measure of how many flops they're seeing. Somewhere between 15 and 22 is normal/optimal IMO.

PFR = Pre Flop Raise = %age of time a player raises preflop when given the opportunity. An overall measure of preflop aggression. Somewhere between 10-16 is normal.

The great thing about VPIP and PFR is that they are a great overall measure of how good/bad/passive/aggressive a player is.

It also helps with hand reading. Someone with a really low VPIP will likely have a better range of hands, someone with a really high VPIP, you have to consider that they play almost anything.

Your HUD will be set up to track these 2 stats and more.

google holdem manager 2 free trial. You download the HUD. It should walk you through the steps. Then run the program while you have tables open and it does the rest.
 

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VPIP = Voluntarily Put Into Pot = %age of time a player voluntarily puts money into the pot preflop. An overall measure of how many flops they're seeing. Somewhere between 15 and 22 is normal/optimal IMO.

PFR = Pre Flop Raise = %age of time a player raises preflop when given the opportunity. An overall measure of preflop aggression. Somewhere between 10-16 is normal.

The great thing about VPIP and PFR is that they are a great overall measure of how good/bad/passive/aggressive a player is.

It also helps with hand reading. Someone with a really low VPIP will likely have a better range of hands, someone with a really high VPIP, you have to consider that they play almost anything.

Your HUD will be set up to track these 2 stats and more.

google holdem manager 2 free trial. You download the HUD. It should walk you through the steps. Then run the program while you have tables open and it does the rest.

it really is a science! with all of this im done for the night. may play some tmrw morning. info overload!
 

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it really is a science! with all of this im done for the night. may play some tmrw morning. info overload!

Yeah it's a lot. A ton. I'm probably spewing a lot of this too fast for you, but I wanted to keep getting thoughts out for more advanced players following this thread. No offense intended at all, but some of it you don't need to worry about yet.
 

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Yeah it's a lot. A ton. I'm probably spewing a lot of this too fast for you, but I wanted to keep getting thoughts out for more advanced players following this thread. No offense intended at all, but some of it you don't need to worry about yet.
nah i appreciate the help/info!
 

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quick question. as a beginner, should i stick to 9 player games or does it matter if i play 6 player games. i would assume stick with 9 since im trying to learn how to play starting hands against full tables?
 

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quick question. as a beginner, should i stick to 9 player games or does it matter if i play 6 player games. i would assume stick with 9 since im trying to learn how to play starting hands against full tables?

Yes. At 6-max you really have to open up your ranges. There's also a lot more blind stealing, 3 bet blind defenses, etc.

It's pretty much a completely different game.
 

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i really think im better off just playing wild as fuck and just trying to win the pot as opposed to going "by the book". what do you think?
 

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i really think im better off just playing wild as fuck and just trying to win the pot as opposed to going "by the book". what do you think?

I think you would become the type of player that good players make their living off of. :)
 

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i mean i folded an AT suited a minute ago when i was first to act after the blinds. is that right? according to the chart it is!
then of course the next hand when im in the bb, i get 8 3 offsuit.....smh
 

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i mean i folded an AT suited a minute ago when i was first to act after the blinds. is that right? according to the chart it is!
then of course the next hand when im in the bb, i get 8 3 offsuit.....smh

Yeah, that's borderline. Sometimes I fold it, sometimes I play it. If I'm playing it, that is the bottom of my opening range from UTG (under the gun = first to act preflop).
 

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