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Something I haven't seen mentioned as a possibility yet:

A couple months ago on 60 Minutes (I think, or another comparable show), they showed that just a random smart guy with an iPhone could hack into your vehicle's computer system and literally control your car. They showed him slamming on the brakes and steering the vehicle from his iPhone while someone else was attempting to drive who basically had no control over his own vehicle.

Im thinking if just an average guy with an iPhone is capable of that, there are a lot of people or governments that would be capable of hacking into a plane's computer system and either sabotaging it causing it to crash or literally steering it to another destination.

I seriously doubt that's what happened here but could legitimately see that happening in the near future.
 

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Something I haven't seen mentioned as a possibility yet:

A couple months ago on 60 Minutes (I think, or another comparable show), they showed that just a random smart guy with an iPhone could hack into your vehicle's computer system and literally control your car. They showed him slamming on the brakes and steering the vehicle from his iPhone while someone else was attempting to drive who basically had no control over his own vehicle.

Im thinking if just an average guy with an iPhone is capable of that, there are a lot of people or governments that would be capable of hacking into a plane's computer system and either sabotaging it causing it to crash or literally steering it to another destination.

I seriously doubt that's what happened here but could legitimately see that happening in the near future.

You don't think the airlines have thought of this?
 

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I know one thing that will probably come out of this. The days of turning off transponders from the cockpit are probably numbered. In the past the pilots may have turned things off if there was a problem with the main power source. But I suspect with the battery technology they have now, they'll have a battery backup at the transponder to keep it running at all times.
 

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You don't think the airlines have thought of this?

Of course they've thought of it. That doesn't stop it from possibly happening. Using your logic, Target should've never gotten hacked because they thought about online security. Hell, prior to 9/11, the airlines and our government had thought of the possibility of airplanes being used as terrorist weapons but that didn't stop 9/11.

Just because they've thought about it and tried their absolute best to prevent it doesn't mean somebody on the other side isn't smarter than whoever is in charge of that for Malaysian Airlines or the other thousand airlines out there.
 

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New information, U.S. officials told CNN, indicates the missing airplane could have flown for several hours beyond the last transponder reading.

Malaysian authorities believe they have several "pings" of engine data from the airliner's service data system, known as ACARS, transmitted to satellites in the four to five hours after the last transponder signal, suggesting the plane is believed to have flown to the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN. That information combined with known radar data and knowledge of fuel range leads officials to believe the plane may have made it to that ocean, which is in the opposite direction of the plane's original route.

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Sorry if this has already been mentioned (haven't read the past few pages of the thread) but is anyone "crowdsourcing" satellite images to find the 777? tomnod.com is putting up new images of the Indian Ocean soon apparently for people to look for the missing aircraft. You can tag suspicious objects and they use an algorithm to identify areas that have been tagged multiple times by users.
 

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Sorry if this has already been mentioned (haven't read the past few pages of the thread) but is anyone "crowdsourcing" satellite images to find the 777? tomnod.com is putting up new images of the Indian Ocean soon apparently for people to look for the missing aircraft. You can tag suspicious objects and they use an algorithm to identify areas that have been tagged multiple times by users.

Heard about some site like this heck maybe it was but everyone got on and it crashed
 

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Thinking they would've found debris and a lot of it if the plane blew up.

Pilot was on a suicide mission IMO and nose dived the planed from 30,000 ft into the water in 4.3 seconds. Nobody had a chance for a text.

Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m.
This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.
U.S. investigators told ABC News that the two modes of communication were "systematically shut down."
That means the U.S. team "is convinced that there was manual intervention," a source said, which means it was likely not an accident or catastrophic malfunction that took the plane out of the sky.


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U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching. It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.
It's not clear, however, whether the satellite pings also indicate the plane's location.
The new information has greatly expanded the potential search area into the Indian Ocean.
"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior Pentagon official said.
The official initially said there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. Officials later said the plane likely did not fly four or five hours, but did not specify how long it may have been airborne.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “It's my understanding that based on some new information that's not necessarily conclusive, but new information, an additional search area may be opened in the Indian Ocean, and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy.”
Carney did not specify the nature of the “new information.”
Pentagon officials said that the destroyer USS Kidd was being moved to the western part of the strait of Malacca at the request of Malaysia and is heading towards an area where the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea meet. The ship has helicopters aboard that can scour the area.
The U.S. action came hours after Malaysian officials said they had extended their search into the Andaman Sea and had requested help from India in the search for the missing plane and its 239 passengers.
Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.
Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said that the search’s “main focus has always been in the South China Sea,” which is east of Malaysia and along the plane’s route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
But the search was extended earlier this week to include water far to the west on the other side of Malaysia.
“We are working very closely with the FAA and the NTSB on the issue of a possible air turn back,” Hishammuddin said, referring to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board.
“They have indicated to us that based on the information given by the Malaysian authorities, they — being the FAA and NTSB — the U.S. team was of the view that there was reasonable ground for the Malaysian authorities to deploy resources to conduct search on the western side of the peninsula of Malaysia. Under the circumstances, it is appropriate to conduct the search even if the evidence suggests there is a possibility of finding a minor evidence to suggest that ... the aircraft would have been there.”
Hishammuddin said it was possible the plane kept flying after dropping off of radar. "Of course, this is why we have extended the search," he said.
The Malaysians spent much of today's news conference dismissing earlier leads.
 

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Of course they've thought of it. That doesn't stop it from possibly happening. Using your logic, Target should've never gotten hacked because they thought about online security. Hell, prior to 9/11, the airlines and our government had thought of the possibility of airplanes being used as terrorist weapons but that didn't stop 9/11.

Just because they've thought about it and tried their absolute best to prevent it doesn't mean somebody on the other side isn't smarter than whoever is in charge of that for Malaysian Airlines or the other thousand airlines out there.

If airlines knew a person could tap into their systems and purposefully crash an airliner, the entire fleet would have to be grounded. They can't take that chance.

Target and and airline crashing are very different things. Nobody is going to die from a Target ID theft.
 

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If airlines knew a person could tap into their systems and purposefully crash an airliner, the entire fleet would have to be grounded. They can't take that chance.

Target and and airline crashing are very different things. Nobody is going to die from a Target ID theft.

well can someone die from a car crash?

Again, by your logic, all cars should be taken off the road because it's been proven that it is indeed possible to hack a car's computer system.

Also, based on the link slapshot just provided, it is possible for this to happen, yet planes still fly. So your statement is just wrong.
 

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well can someone die from a car crash?

Again, by your logic, all cars should be taken off the road because it's been proven that it is indeed possible to hack a car's computer system.

Also, based on the link slapshot just provided, it is possible for this to happen, yet planes still fly. So your statement is just wrong.

Why get angry? It's not worth it. Chill.
 

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well can someone die from a car crash?

Again, by your logic, all cars should be taken off the road because it's been proven that it is indeed possible to hack a car's computer system.

Also, based on the link slapshot just provided, it is possible for this to happen, yet planes still fly. So your statement is just wrong.


The guy is fucking nuts in the head.
 

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Why get angry? It's not worth it. Chill.

Angry? did I curse or call you a name? Nope.

Typical Enfuego post. Argue about semantics until you get proven wrong and then act like everyone else is taking things too serious. It would be funny if it weren't so obvious.
 

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