BREAKING NEWS: Malaysia Airlines says it has 'lost contact' with flight carrying 239 people. More ...

[MikeB]

Maybe this was like the Payne Stewart deal where they lost pressure and flew until the gas ran out?

yeah, but the transponders were turned off.

Supposedly there are two. The pilot has control of one and the co-pilot has the other one.

 

[MikeB]

My question was a little too short. I thought part of the black box's function was to help locate a wrecked plane. I thought it "pinged" the location and the authorities used that location as a general starting point for the search. Maybe not though.

I think you have to be close for them to pick it up. Also, the battery life is only so long on those.

 

[shdw01]

I've been waiting but it must be very remote cause now I'm just going to say it....what are the chances this thing was hijacked by terrorists who safely landed the plane somewhere remote and now have 225 hostages and an airplane at their disposal?

and someday soon our TV will be interrupted by a satellite broadcast with their demands

 

[bigbet1234]

I've been waiting but it must be very remote cause now I'm just going to say it....what are the chances this thing was hijacked by terrorists who safely landed the plane somewhere remote and now have 225 hostages and an airplane at their disposal?

and someday soon our TV will be interrupted by a satellite broadcast with their demands

Are you related to AAdam Muema???dam Muema?????????

 

[Enfuego]

yeah, but the transponders were turned off.

Supposedly there are two. The pilot has control of one and the co-pilot has the other one.

If you lose cabin pressure though, does it impact the transponders?

 

[Betallsports]

Two questions I haven't seen addressed that I'm curious about:

1. Regarding the two individuals who were using fake passports, have they stated why the two would need a fake passport? In other words, what was preventing them from flying as themselves?

2. What about the black box? I thought those things were indestructible and would operate even if submerged in the ocean.

They are from Iran and wanted to get to Germany ....

The two passengers who have dominated headlines the last two days entered Malaysia using valid Iranian passports, Noble said. But they used stolen Austrian and Italian passports to board the missing Malaysian plane, he said.

Noble gave their names and ages as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Seyed Mohammad Reza, 29.


Malaysian police had earlier identified Nourmohammadi, using a slightly different name and age, and said they believed he was trying to migrate to Germany.


Inspector General Khalid Abu Bakar of the Royal Malaysian Police said it doesn't appear the younger Iranian posed a threat.


"We have been checking his background," Khalid said, noting "other police organizations" have been consulted. "And we believe that he is not likely to be a member of any terrorist group," Khalid said.
After he failed to arrive in Frankfurt, the final destination of his ticket, his mother contacted authorities, Khalid said. According to ticketing records, the ticket to Frankfurt was booked under the stolen Austrian passport.

 

[MikeB]

If you lose cabin pressure though, does it impact the transponders?

No, they have to be manually turned off (from what I hear. (Im not a pilot)).

I think they can be turned to a mayday or "trouble" setting or off setting if it is to be switched.

 

[Enfuego]

No, they have to be manually turned off (from what I hear. (Im not a pilot)).

I think they can be turned to a mayday or "trouble" setting or off setting if it is to be switched.

It just adds to the oddness of this story.

 

[MikeB]

It just adds to the oddness of this story.

Yeah, something really weird happened.

I also heard on the news that 5 people missed that plane and not one came forward to say "I'm so lucky to be alive", "I missed my taxi so I just missed my plane", "I was sick", etc........It's been 4 days and not one person has come forward.......odd

 

[loomis41973]

Strange day to retire...

http://www.tedlandonline.com/1/post/2014/03/top-ntsb-investigator-hersman-to-resign.html

 

[GoSooners]

That type of crash would leave a debris field.

I'm no aerodynamics expert, but it seems like at 35,000 feet and going cruising speed, if the plane did blow up and devastated the fuselage it seems like the debris field would be very spread out and thin. And very hard to spot from the air. It also sounds like by the spotters in the air that the China Sea is already so full of floating debris, that they are having trouble distinguishing anything from a plane to the garbage that has been left out there. This is probably going to be a tough find.

 

[gmrcharity]

An Israeli did come forward. He choose not to fly on the Sabbath and thats why he wasnt on the plane.

Yeah, something really weird happened.

I also heard on the news that 5 people missed that plane and not one came forward to say "I'm so lucky to be alive", "I missed my taxi so I just missed my plane", "I was sick", etc........It's been 4 days and not one person has come forward.......odd

 

[gmrcharity]

They talked about this a couple days ago. It does ping but it depends on how deep the water is. I believe they said it was only detectable at 30 meters deep. I am not positive on the depth but they had the same issue with the Air France flight. It took some time to find that plane and the black boxes were never found for some time. Heck it took a year and a half to get most of that wreckage up.

My question was a little too short. I thought part of the black box's function was to help locate a wrecked plane. I thought it "pinged" the location and the authorities used that location as a general starting point for the search. Maybe not though.

 

[CoolBreeze22]

I heard them say on the news that the plane had 7.5 hours worth of fuel left when it disappeared. Talk about one huge search area, they also mentioned that if it crashed in the jungle it might never be found.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Maybe this was like the Payne Stewart deal where they lost pressure and flew until the gas ran out?

I don't think it is like the Stewart crash.

MINA, S.D., Oct. 25—A Learjet carrying professional golfer Payne Stewart and at least four others streaked uncontrolled for thousands of miles across the heart of the country today, its occupants apparently unconscious or already dead, before it plunged nose first and crashed in a field near this north-central South Dakota hamlet.No one on the ground was hurt and there were no survivors aboard the aircraft, which came down in a marshy area about two miles southwest of here.

The cause of the uncontrolled flight and crash after the Learjet 35 apparently ran out of fuel were not known, but aviation experts speculated that the aircraft may have lost pressurization and that emergency backup systems failed as the plane's autopilot kept it in the air. Loss of pressurization above 30,000 feet would cause occupants of the aircraft to lose consciousness from oxygen deficiency in one to two minutes, the experts said.

During some of its eerie, almost four-hour journey from Orlando to a swampy grassland in South Dakota, the Learjet was shadowed by Air Force and Air National Guard jet fighters, whose pilots reported that the aircraft's windows were frosted over, suggesting that it had lost pressurization. The Air Force pilots also reported that the Learjet meandered from as low as 22,000 feet to as high as 51,000 feet, but never strayed from a northwest heading.

They would not have turned off the transponders. The jet would have been tracked.

 

[slapshot]

North Korea might have been able to track this plane better

Not much info yet so they can still blame anything

No info on the pilots 20 years or 2 weeks experience

Their are more theories then True Detective had

 

[Betallsports]

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[TopShelf11]

all what sailors? who the fuck said where the missiles came from?

don't go around creating straw man arguments with me, can't stand that bullshit

it's obvious I know a lot more about what happened on that day by listening to the words of people involved. You simply just make up shit and them attack the shit you made up

I simply advised you to watch the documentary. You don't want to? I don't care. You think you know what happened? good for you

I could just read this post and know, out of everyone on this forum, who it was a response to. I don't know if the 'enfuego' guy is an attention seeker or just fucking crazy(literally).

 

[GoSooners]

I don't know if it has been mentioned in the 8+ pages here, but I thought it was strange that nobody made a call or even sent a text. They had to have come within range of cell towers at some point during that flight, so even queued texts would have been sent, yet there was not a single one.

 

[JohnnyMac]

I don't know if it has been mentioned in the 8+ pages here, but I thought it was strange that nobody made a call or even sent a text. They had to have come within range of cell towers at some point during that flight, so even queued texts would have been sent, yet there was not a single one.

I thought of that, but not sure if phones would be in contact with towers out there. That video above says there are few radar towers out there.