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yeah but that's one year. In previous years the dogs did very well. I think it's better to just not play them. Unlined teams also did poor the last 2 years but who knows how that will go this year. I think you could get in trouble just basing it off one year as the dogs of 1 to 3.5 did well for 4 years before falling off last couple years.


ok. I think am all right. Just double checked your list.. I have all the same except few cause there over 140.5. Am waiting on them still.
 

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Double check ther 4 games that i had over -10 spread o well....o well hopefully it wont matter


Don't worry about it. I'm playing all of them. People try to tweak too many things to try to make a perfect system. I backtracked them an the totals with double digit favorites still turned a profit. They just brought the overall percentage down. Id rather go 34-17 then 30-14. 30-14 is 68.18%. 34-17 is 66.67%. If u played all games for $100 you would win $1530 off 34-17 while you would make 1460 off 30-14. I'd rather make more money than have the higher percentage.
 

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Yeah but that's one year. In previous years the dogs did very well. I think it's better to just not play them. Unlined teams also did poor the last 2 years but who knows how that will go this year. I think you could get in trouble just basing it off one year as the dogs of 1 to 3.5 did well for 4 years before falling off last couple years.

ok thanks......jus tryin to think out of the box....and that usually get's me in trouble.....thanks for postin this thread.....very good info....goodluck this weekend!
 

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Don't worry about it. I'm playing all of them. People try to tweak too many things to try to make a perfect system. I backtracked them an the totals with double digit favorites still turned a profit. They just brought the overall percentage down. Id rather go 34-17 then 30-14. 30-14 is 68.18%. 34-17 is 66.67%. If u played all games for $100 you would win $1530 off 34-17 while you would make 1460 off 30-14. I'd rather make more money than have the higher percentage.


mtm2649, I don't mean to question what you are playing, especially for all you do here, but if a team is say -17 or maybe -20 or more & the total qualifies for an over, you say you are still playing it over, just trying to help others, thanking you in advance,gl.
 

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Wow.. 5dimes just posted lines and every single line is 1.5-2.5 points higher than listed in this thread.
 

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Just trying to understand if the posted total is under 144.5 you play the over. Example in your last update of your plays you have Delaware over 135. 5Dimes has it now at 136.5. Am I correct that it is still a play.

Thanks for all your hard work with this.
 

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Just trying to understand if the posted total is under 144.5 you play the over. Example in your last update of your plays you have Delaware over 135. 5Dimes has it now at 136.5. Am I correct that it is still a play.

Thanks for all your hard work with this.

from post #1--(hope this makes it clearer)


Bet the OVER.... ANY total that is 144.5 or less. (ie.144, 143, 142, ......136, 135, 134......120....110....etc)


Some filter out games with a double digit favorite since they are more likely to be a blowout & won't have fouling at the end to help push the total over.

Record from last 3 years for the overs.

22-9 in 2011
32-16 in 2010
30-10 in 2009
 

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Wow.. 5dimes just posted lines and every single line is 1.5-2.5 points higher than listed in this thread.

Just put about 30 in.. 90%+ had risen.. Only a couple gone down.. Average up about 2.5 points probably.. Had one total that rose by 8.5 points. WOW.
 

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This is what I have so far. There are 7 totals that haven't been released yet. I put them on here but just left them blank for now. I will post them as soon as i get them and if they are over 144.5 i will delete them.


OVER ON TOTALS OF 144.5 OR LESS
11AM Cleveland St Over 117
1PM Morgan St Over 137
1PM Northeastern Over 118
1PM South Dakota St Over 141
2PM Delaware Over 135
2PM Bowling Green Over 115
2PM Oral Roberts Over 140
2PM Vermont Over 139
2PM Maine Over 143
2PM Appalachian St Over 125
2PM Ball St Over 122
2PM Butler Over
2PM Canisius Over 143
2PM Detroit Over
2PM Manhattan Over 138
2PM SIU Edwardsville Over 135
2PM St Peters Over 117
2PM Wisconsin Green Bay Over 113
3PM New Mexico St Over
3PM New Hampshire Over 112
3PM Sam Houston St Over
4PM Radford Over 123
4PM Wisconsin Milwaukee Over 123
4PM George Mason Over 143
4PM Hofstra Over 123
4PM McNeese St Over 135
5PM Missouri St Over 116
6PM Murray St Over
6PM College of Charleston Over 143
7PM Ohio Over
7PM Albany Over
7PM Charleston Southern Over 135
7PM Central Mich Over 122
7PM Eastern Kentucky Over 134
7PM Georgia St Over 123
7PM Gardner Webb Over 127
7PM SE Louisiana Over 121
7:15 Stephen F Austin Over 119
7:15 Eastern Illinois Over 126
8PM Jacksonville St Over 120
8PM Bradley Over 121
8PM Pacific Over
8PM North Dakota St Over 137
8PM Weber St Over 144.5
8PM Evansville Over 117
8:30 Austin Peay Over 144
9PM Northern Arizona Over 133
9PM Montana Over 140
9PM Northern Colorado Over 134
9PM Utah St Over 131
10PM Riverside Over 116
10PM Sacramento St Over 139
10PM Idaho Over 142
10PM Northridge Over 133

How about the 4pm Seton Hall at Cinc game? total is 129-130, is this game and Over play? Tks
 

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Just trying to understand if the posted total is under 144.5 you play the over. Example in your last update of your plays you have Delaware over 135. 5Dimes has it now at 136.5. Am I correct that it is still a play.

Thanks for all your hard work with this.

Yeah I posted the opening lines. Totals usually go up. Play them as long as they dont go up to 145.
 

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Wow.. 5dimes just posted lines and every single line is 1.5-2.5 points higher than listed in this thread.

Yeah I expected that. Totals always go up from the opening line. I just posted the opening lines so people could get a feel for which totals would be plays. Majority of sites never release those opening lines. Only a couple of sportsbooks take action on those openers. This is common. It's not cause of this bracket bustee system.
 

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Thanks for clarifying that Phantom. Just so everyone knows. If one of the totals I posted was 130 & is now 135 yes it is still a play. Obviously you wanna find the best line possible but any total that is 144.5 OR LESS IS A PLAY ON THE OVER.
 

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Yeah I expected that. Totals always go up from the opening line. I just posted the opening lines so people could get a feel for which totals would be plays. Majority of sites never release those opening lines. Only a couple of sportsbooks take action on those openers. This is common. It's not cause of this bracket bustee system.

Oh okay, I thought those were the lines that you actually bet on the first out you had that offered them. Yeah, most people never even see the "opening lines".. Nice, now I don't feel so bad.
 

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My book doesn't post totals until a few hours before tipoff. Usually thats not good, and I for this situation can't see it being good at all.
I hope this system works. I'm having worse B-Ball week almost all season.
 

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Put in some plays for Saturday, but only where I could get totals either close to openers, OR where my many outs had at least 1 point difference on the over-unders.

I'm guessing that due to crazy line movement we all will have different results, but hopefully all with a profit.

I play Saturday only. Like last year, my plays will vary in size. For OVERS, I'll use double sized plays with line value and/or for the TV bracketbuster games (better teams?). The rest of the totals will be single plays or 1.5* plays, EXCEPT I am going to use single plays or slightly below for totals under 125, which was a system change recently.

I will NOT play unlined games this year. I will play road dogs 1-3.5, and may play some double digit dogs, backing off if early results are unkind.

Whatever you do, good luck to all. My head was spinning last year getting all these plays in, and figures to be the same this year.
 

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Wow. Pinnacle has Cleveland St game still at 117 total, but to bet it is -138 juice. WTF?
They have done that with a ton of games.
 

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Wow. Pinnacle has Cleveland St game still at 117 total, but to bet it is -138 juice. WTF?
They have done that with a ton of games.

Yeah, I noticed that on a lot of my totals.. I kinda like it, because I see it as they are offering +money on the under right now to entice bettors overnight and keep people from hitting the overs early, but the lines will all raise 0.5-1.5 points in the morning when they even out the vig. Another way to look at it is that they are showing confidence in the under and vigging the over at a lower total expecting volume so when people play those lines they will end up paying a lot of vig when they lose if the extra point or two doesn't come in to play.

Either way, I don't think it's that big of a deal, the lines will all adjust by morning and there will be even vig on most of the totals.
 

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Also, does anyone know where I can find Pinny's closing lines without being around at tip off? I know where I can muster some closing lines from crappier sites, but I would prefer an easy way to get Pinny's tomorrow night because I want to track the value I gained by putting most of the bets in over night. (I have 34 in right now, most of which have already moved in my favor, and I'm looking at 17 more until tip off.) Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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