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4* LSU Tigers +4 -110

Real interesting game tonight vs. Ga Tech and LSU. I have had quite a bit of success betting on or against LSU over the years.

A lot of respect has been given to GA Tech over these past few weeks leading up to this bowl game, and this is yet another example of people overreacting to one good looking win. In this case, Georgia Tech was able to win a rivalry game over Georgia, 45-42, which sent the country buzzing about the Yellow Jackets. I wasn't very impressed. First of all you don't cap games by what happened in one game. Second of all, anything can happen in rivalry games, especially if you are a team like Georgia, picked to be in the National Title game, you realized you will not win the East, and you finish your conference schedule and close the season vs. an in-state rival who is fired up to play you and prove what they can do with their first year head coach. It was just a bad spot for Georgia overall.

Forget the Georgia game ever happened. (A game by the way that despite how impressive GA Tech may have looked, they only won by 3).

Georgia Tech is not a team that steamrolls people. It is not a team that is going to hang 50 points on people. That game vs. Georgia was their highest point output of the season, like many teams did this year in their final game. Georgia Tech typically averages 26 points per game. So let's not get carried away with what Georgia Tech can do offensively. Let's not even get into the fact that teams with this triple option type of offense are 0-2 ATS in bowl games. When teams have time to prepare, this type of attack gets slowed. The lack of versatility in an offense like this hurts. The inability to throw the ball hurts. There is a reason why big schools don't use this type of attack, and if there is any team in the country with the athletes and defensive ability to slow this type of attack down, LSU has to be one of those teams.

This spread is GA Tech laying 4 points. In their 12 games this year, GA Tech played 8 teams were worth a darn, and they only beat one of them (Miami) by more than 4 points. In fact, when they have faced a top 35 rush defense, which happened 3 times this year, they scored 19, 17, and 21. GA Tech averages 19 points per game vs. teams that sport a top 35 rush defense.

You can say whatever you want about the SEC Offenses. But there is one thing they do traditionally well and that is run the ball and play defense and that holds true even when they leave conference play year in and year out. SO while there may be questions about the offenses in the SEC this year, and is NOT because the defenses were dominant. The defenses are always dominant, and that is why the SEC puts more players, especially on the defensive side of the ball, into the NFL every year. With all of that being said, LSU's offense is very underrated averaging 30+ points per game in a very good defensive conference.

That gets me to my next point which is this LSU team was one of a handful of teams this year that you have to look to bet on in their bowl game because of their inexperience at the QB position when the year started. They have QBs that have completed a full season now, went through a few weeks of gameplanning for one game, and you have to like and feel a little more confident in their QBs in this game. That hols especially true with a coach like Les Miles, who is not scared to roll the dice.

Miles has been superb in bowl games, obviously blowing out last years national championship contender Ohio State, blowing out Notre Dame the year before, etc. LSU is no stranger to the Peach Bowl either where they disposed of the Hurricanes, and won SEC Titles in this building.

LSU sports the #16 rush defense in the country, and they are the type of team that is cocky. They dont care if you run a spread, or an option, they dont change their defense for anything. They do what they do and they believe in it. Their familiarity with their system allows their athletes to run around and make plays. In the Florida and Georgia game, this hurt them badly, because those teams had QBs and playmakers on the outside that can cause problems and LSU did not adjust their defense to the spread attacks. But vs. a team like Tech, this will work fine for them because they are very good in pursuit from sideline to sideline and win their man to man battles. This triple option attack is one dimnensional and good defenses like BC, VA Tech, etc have been able to shut it down to 19 and 17 points respectively. Tech can not thrw the football at all, and you cant be one dimensional vs. good defenses.

While Georgia Tech loves to chew up yards on the ground and keep offenses on the sideline, LSU is also able to do that one their side of the ball. Scott, Keiland and even the speedy Holliday give LSU a stable of ball carriers that can chew up yardage. But the difference in this game, is their ability to pass the ball to big time targets such as Brandon LaFell. Again, their balance on offense allowed them to put up 30+ PPG in a good defensive conference. Techs defense is good, but LSU has faced very similar defenses all year long and was able to put up a good amount of points on each one.

Big coaching advantage to Les Miles in this game. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country and he has been in this bowl game, in this stadium, and on big stages many times before, while Paul Johnson, the ACC Coach of the Year, has not.

This game, while very big for Tech, is also very big for LSU. They had a very below average season by their standards and winning this game can erase the memories from this season, and keep them moving in the rebuilding direction. It takes pressure off of Miles, etc.

Although LSU is coming off a national title game to this bowl, it wasnt like it was a last minute, late in the year collpase that lead to this point. LSU knew for a long time they would be playing in a bowl like this, and the Peach Bowl is actually a very good bowl game, and I think they are happy to be here, considering how their season went.

Three key trends right here:

# Tigers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 bowl games.
# Tigers are 12-4 ATS in their last 16 non-conference games.
# Tigers are 9-3-1 ATS in their last 13 games as an underdog of 3.5-10.0.

Overall this is a good matchup for LSU, who scored less than 21 points only one time this season, and whenever Tech has faced a top 35 rush defense, they average 19 points per game. Plus LSU is catching 4 points. Tech isnt built to blow people out, and LSU has regrouped, refocused, new gameplan, I think the Tigers will be ready to roll and make a statement tonight.

LSU 24
Georgia Tech 20
 

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Really wasn't expecting this QB Davis for BC to suck this badly. Thought he would scramble a bit and make some plays with his legs. He really changed the complexion of the game and it was a bad bet. Wishing I would have taken the under now.

Anyway, I am heading out for the night, so be safe and Happy New Year!

Geaux Tigers!
 

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Box I love your LSU choice.

And I know your final score will be very close.

Lets get that money.

Happy New Year.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post, Box. Have a blast tonite and I'm looking forward to your insite tomorrow. :toast:
 

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Box - gotta give you credit. Your write up was the final factor that put me on LSU tonight. Thanks.
 

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Congrats Box. I was on the Pitt under and KU as well, but GT and BC put a hurting on me for my first bowl losses.

I'm on UGA huge for today and will play SoCal pretty heavu tonight as well.

Happy New Year to everyone!
 

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3* Iowa Hawkeyes -3 -120

Buying the hook here as I can envision a few scenarios playing out where the 3 points may matter in this one.

Fresh off an SEC/LSU butt whooping over Georgia Tech last night, people may be starting to view the SEC in a new light. Maybe the offenses are actually okay. Maybe the defenses are outstanding. Not so fast, my friend.

South Carolina has not had the season they have envisioned in Steve Spurrier's 3rd or 4th year at the helm. This was supposed to be their year, where his recruits are here, his guys are here, and as he said before the season, they should start competing for SEC East Titles. Didnt happen, didnt come close to happening. They lost to Vanderbilt early, then scored 7 points vs. Georgia, then got blown off the field by Florida, then lost to dreaded rival Clemson to try and salvage their season.

OLD Steve Spurrier's act is starting to get old in Columbia, their rotating QBs have caused this offense to have no identity, Vanderbilt cracked them, Florida demoralized them and Clemson drove a stake in their heart, and this is a case that I like to call the WOUNDED DOG instead of a "live dog". Wounded dog South Carolina is catching 3 points in this game and my capping thinks it should be much more. My numbers agree.

Iowa is a fundamentally sound team that is always well coached with Kirk Ferentz. Year after year, Iowa finds themselves in this Outback Bowl. This stadium should be their home away from home. This stadium has been pretty good to them, too. And year after year Iowa faces an SEC team. This is the 4th SEC Team Iowa will face in their last 5 years of bowling, going 2-1 against the SEC in that span, and that was against ultra talented teams like Florida, LSU and Florida again and not a team with SOME talent like South Carolina. Iowa split vs. Florida, and took one from LSU. Iowa has also played Texas recently. So the point of the history lesson is Iowa has played bigger and better teams and have won or kept it extremely close despite a loss. This tells me Kirk Ferentz knows how to prepare his teams for bowl games.

Iowa comes into this game riding high off a 55-0 win over bowl team Minnesota. They also had their obvious big win over Penn State, to knock Penn State from the title hunt. Iowa has gotten very good offensively in the 2nd half of the season. scoring 22 or more in their final 6 straight - hitting 38, 45 and 55 point outputs in 3 of those 6.

South Carolinas offense, meanwhile, never improved this season despite trying every QB on the roster it seems. 5 of their 12 games Sout Carolina scored 17 points or less, and guess what? They lost all 5 of those games. South Carolina's magic number seems to be 20 points. If they can score 20 points they typically win. They are facing an Iowa defense in this game that is very tough, and they are throwing the freshman QB Stephen Garcia this time around. Garcia is from the Tampa area, so this is a homecoming of sorts for him, and while he can make plays with his legs, and has a bit of a future, this is nothing Iowa's defense can't handle that Vandy, Georgia, LSU, Clemson and Florida could. This trend of 20+ points = win for the Cocks shows that if they face a good defensive team, especially a team that can run the ball and keep the Cocks offense on the sidelines, the Cocks have a hard time pulling it out. No pun intended.

However, I even think in this game it will take more than 20 points for the Cocks to get the cover. Shonn Greene might be the most underrated player in the country, and a guy who should have definitely got more Heisman consideration than he got. He is the only back in the country that rushed for 100 yards or more in every game. In short, nobody has been able to shut him down despite everyone knowing what he can do. That includes Rose Bowl team Penn State and their defense.

Iowa has not had a team go off on them offensively all year. Iowa has not given up more than 26 points all year, and in only 4 of their 12 games did they allow an opponent to reach the 20 point mark, and NEVER the 30 point mark. This Defense gives up just 13 points per game, and they have done it as consistent or more consistent than anyone and this is a struggling offense they will be facing.

In short, give me the coach who is in his prime over the old tired coach, give me the team that is playing very good football over the team who is demoralized, give me the team who will not be intimidated by the big bad SEC, give me the team with familairity in this bowl game, who has scored 22+ points in 6 straight games against a team who averages 22 points per game, and if they dont they dont win. Iowa more experienced QB here, better running game, better defense.

My Line, Iowa -17.

Iowa 31
South Carolina 14
 

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Love the play, I see Iowa winning pretty easily here. SC won't be able to move on Iowa D and Iowa should be able to run up and down on SC.

BOL!!:103631605
 

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ehh was up to 4.5 at my book...just bought to 4...hopefully it will be closer to your 17 line in actuality....


lets go shon!!
 

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Nice write up. I am lost on this one myself. Was thinking over as iowa should get into the mid 20ties. Like 28 points can the cocks get 16 points. I think they can
 

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