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How many Vietnam PoWs admitted to hating America while they were in Captivity, haven't you ever said you took out the garbage when you wife asked but it was still sitting under the sink?
How many false confessions have police officers obtained?
Are you saying it's impossible for someone to say something inaccurate?
So you're admitting that it's possible for what someone says to be inaccurate, thank you, so really we need to see a test conducted by a medical doctor for any of this to be proven. People say a lot of things...I have a friend who claims to have had been with several women...but I know the most he's gotten is a hand job from a fat girl at a Christmas party.
From the leaked Grand Jury testimony.
Bonds testified he had never discussed steroids with his trainer -- not even after federal agents kicked in Anderson's door to serve their search warrant. That was out of respect for Anderson's privacy, Bonds said.
To the prosecutors, the substances Bonds said he was using sounded like "the cream" and "the clear," two steroids designed to be undetectable in laboratory testing that Victor Conte, founder of BALCO, is accused of marketing to elite athletes, sometimes with Anderson as middleman.
Bonds said that as far as he knew, Anderson had given him only legal products to treat the arthritis and fatigue that afflicted him, especially when playing a day game after a night game. The trainer brought the products into the Giants' clubhouse at Pac Bell Park "once a homestand," Bonds said, and that's where he used them.
"I never asked Greg" about what the products contained, Bonds testified. "When he said it was flaxseed oil, I just said, 'Whatever.'
"It was in the ballpark ... in front of everybody. I mean, all the reporters, my teammates. I mean, they all saw it. I didn't hide it."
The transcript shows that before he testified, Bonds was told he would not be prosecuted for any crimes he admitted as long as he told the truth to the grand jury. But if he lied under oath, the prosecutors warned, he could face prosecution for perjury. It is illegal to obtain steroids and human growth hormone without a doctor's prescription.
Faced with the same warning and similar evidence, five other baseball players who were summoned to San Francisco to testify last year confessed to the grand jury that they had used performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson. One week after Bonds testified, New York Yankees first baseman Jason Giambi and his brother Jeremy, both former Oakland A's, described in detail how they had injected themselves with performance-enhancing drugs. The Giambis testified they were drawn to Anderson because of Bonds' success.
Bonds testified he had never discussed steroids with his trainer -- not even after federal agents kicked in Anderson's door to serve their search warrant. That was out of respect for Anderson's privacy, Bonds said.
To the prosecutors, the substances Bonds said he was using sounded like "the cream" and "the clear," two steroids designed to be undetectable in laboratory testing that Victor Conte, founder of BALCO, is accused of marketing to elite athletes, sometimes with Anderson as middleman.
Bonds said that as far as he knew, Anderson had given him only legal products to treat the arthritis and fatigue that afflicted him, especially when playing a day game after a night game. The trainer brought the products into the Giants' clubhouse at Pac Bell Park "once a homestand," Bonds said, and that's where he used them.
"I never asked Greg" about what the products contained, Bonds testified. "When he said it was flaxseed oil, I just said, 'Whatever.'
"It was in the ballpark ... in front of everybody. I mean, all the reporters, my teammates. I mean, they all saw it. I didn't hide it."
The transcript shows that before he testified, Bonds was told he would not be prosecuted for any crimes he admitted as long as he told the truth to the grand jury. But if he lied under oath, the prosecutors warned, he could face prosecution for perjury. It is illegal to obtain steroids and human growth hormone without a doctor's prescription.
Faced with the same warning and similar evidence, five other baseball players who were summoned to San Francisco to testify last year confessed to the grand jury that they had used performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson. One week after Bonds testified, New York Yankees first baseman Jason Giambi and his brother Jeremy, both former Oakland A's, described in detail how they had injected themselves with performance-enhancing drugs. The Giambis testified they were drawn to Anderson because of Bonds' success.
And people wonder why OJ Simpson got off. No reason to look any further than you and your "logic". Playing your silly little game:
Why would someone who never used steroids admit to using them when they had previously denied it ad nauseum and has continued to deny it after the fact?
What would Bonds have to GAIN from doing that?
Does it really seem logical to you that someone would lie under oath when said lie would do nothing but hurt them, when they have nothing to gain and everything to lose?
Your buddy lying about banging a bunch of chicks is about as good an analogy as you garbage analogy from the last post.
Beyond that, my post was simple, so simple a fifth grader could understand it. Did Barry Bonds admit using steroids? The answer is very simple. It is YES. Nothing you say or do can change that.
Heres an excerpt of what happened , you can answer your own questions .... You guys know how I feel on this matter , no sense me trapping myself answering a bunch of bullshit questions , Im not the one on trial here ...
Bonds testified that he had received and used clear and cream substances from his personal strength trainer, Greg Anderson, during the 2003 baseball season but was told they were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by The Chronicle.
Federal prosecutors confronted Bonds during his testimony on Dec. 4, 2003, with documents indicating he had used steroids and human growth hormone during a three-year assault on baseball's home run record, but the Giants star denied the allegations.
Bonds testified that he had received and used clear and cream substances from his personal strength trainer, Greg Anderson, during the 2003 baseball season but was told they were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by The Chronicle.
Federal prosecutors confronted Bonds during his testimony on Dec. 4, 2003, with documents indicating he had used steroids and human growth hormone during a three-year assault on baseball's home run record, but the Giants star denied the allegations.
Really my opinion is not fact and what we are talking about are facts, my interpretations of another's words are meaningless unless we back them up with facts, such as a medical test performed by a doctor that shows he used Steroids. Which neither of us have seen.
Are you saying you support convicting people with out evidence? You would sentence a man to death for Murder with out seeing a body or anything of that nature. I'm glad I don't live in your world because my world is one of Liberty and Justice...Freedom from persecution, maybe what you are trying to pull would fly in the middle east or some country run by an African warlord but not here pal. God Bless America
And God Bless Barry U.S. Bonds !!! for standing up to the Grand Jury and telling the truth !!!
.....The transcript shows that before he testified, Bonds was told he would not be prosecuted for any crimes he admitted as long as he told the truth to the grand jury. But if he lied under oath, the prosecutors warned, he could face prosecution for perjury. It is illegal to obtain steroids and human growth hormone without a doctor's prescription.
Faced with the same warning and similar evidence, five other baseball players who were summoned to San Francisco to testify last year confessed to the grand jury that they had used performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson.
.....The transcript shows that before he testified, Bonds was told he would not be prosecuted for any crimes he admitted as long as he told the truth to the grand jury. But if he lied under oath, the prosecutors warned, he could face prosecution for perjury. It is illegal to obtain steroids and human growth hormone without a doctor's prescription.
Faced with the same warning and similar evidence, five other baseball players who were summoned to San Francisco to testify last year confessed to the grand jury that they had used performance-enhancing drugs provided by Anderson.
While there isn't a positive test kicking around that I know about, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence that would lead one to believe (reasonably so IMO) that Bonds took steroids.
Further, I never said anything about convicting Bonds of anything. What does my post say? Stop trying to interpret or twist words and simply answer the question.
Did Barry Bonds, under oath, admit to taking steroids? Yes or no?
This has nothing at all to do with guilt in any legal sense. He either admitted it or he didn't, which is it? I realize you aren't answering because you know what I say is true.
Further, I never said anything about convicting Bonds of anything. What does my post say? Stop trying to interpret or twist words and simply answer the question.
Did Barry Bonds, under oath, admit to taking steroids? Yes or no?
This has nothing at all to do with guilt in any legal sense. He either admitted it or he didn't, which is it? I realize you aren't answering because you know what I say is true.
ope:You want me to stop twisting and interpreting your words but you are demanding me to interpret your twisted versions of Barry Bonds words, this hardly seems fair.
I don't have the answers to your questions as I'm not a Doctor, a Judge, A juror, Bud Selig.
I do know that the factual evidence I have seen is the Baseball Almanac that says Barry Bonds has hit a Lot of home runs.
Yeah, you are right, he admitted to taking "flaxseed oil" and "arthritis cream".
Personally, I don't give a shit whether or not he used roids. I have made my position clear on here many times. To me, sports are entertainment and I was entertained. Beyond that, I couldn't care less. I think Bonds is a scumbag and a real ass hole and has brought 99% of all of this on himself. But I really don't care any that he juiced any more than I care that Brett Boone did or that Robert Downey Jr., is coked out of his mind when he acts. Again, entertainment.
With all of that said, the apologists and all of your ignoring of mountains and mountains of evidence is frankly comical. How anyone with half of a brain can honestly think he didn't juice is entirely beyond me, positive tests or not.
His "best friend" spent time in jail for illegal steroids distribution and is currently in jail b/c he refuses to testify against Bonds. Bonds has admitted taking "flaxseed oil" and "arthritis cream" from a convicted steroid dealer. Raids on anderson's apartment and Balco turned up mountains of paper evidence linked to Bonds. Sheffield testified that Bonds and/or Anderson gave him roids. Not to mention the physical changes in his body.
Whether or not one is a Bonds fan or Giants fan, how anyone can look at all of this objectively and not conclude that he juiced is entirely beyond me.
