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SportSavant said:
I requested my balance of 450$, I will advise if I get it


I still have not received payment, but to be fair, I didnt get in the request before noon....

from what I undersand they dont do payouts on weekends, so i guess I have to wait till monday for my 450$
 

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Positive Update

This from Gambling911 at 6:47 pm today. Please note the update in red:

BetWWTS.com in limbo: More meetings scheduled to determine brand's future
UK-listed online gaming firm Betcorp has shut down its US facing brands effective Friday the 13th following the signing of a bill by President Bush that restricts some form of online gambling via credit cards.

More meetings are scheduled over the next few days in Toronto regarding privatization of the company.

'The group has suspended its US operations with immediate effect (but) continues to trade normally with customers in Europe and the rest of the world,' said Betcorp in a statement.

Betcorp derives over 90 pct of its revenues from its casino, poker and sports gambling websites.

'A further announcement covering the impact and resulting future prospects of the group will be made as soon as practicable,' it added.

BetWWTS.com intends to honor all wagers that were made prior to the Friday morning announcement.

Important Update:

An announcement will be forthcoming first thing Monday morning. Three groups are vying to purchase BetCorp's key US facing brands. The company is in a transition period over the weekend and US bettors will be able to use BetWWTS.com once again starting this week.

Gambling911.com has been in touch with management and feel there is absolutely no reason for concern.

updated 6;47 pm ET
 

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The worst thing about this, personally is that I tried to make a withdrawal
from them about 2 weeks ago and they asked me why. Red flags immediately went up and then they denied my withdrawal request for some BS reason. I smelled a rat and wanted to warn others here, but I thought it might just be an isolated case and didn't want to cause panic. It seemed like a very respecable book 2 years ago....
Sportsavant, how will this affect the NCAA football contests?
 

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mvbski said:
FROM SBR

SBR John’s opinion on WWTS

<hr style="color: rgb(51, 102, 153);" size="1"><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->In a word or two: Extremely disappointed

We have been in talks with the WWTS and will continue to be. In the meantime, we have pulled them off or will be pulling them off our sites as soon as humanly possible.

SBR recognizes these are difficult times. However, there is no legal reason to deny players access to their funds.

WWTS has shown utter incompetence with malice at the highest levels to arrive at a day where their players are denied access to their funds.

I don't think denying players access to their funds is a good thing in any case, and I sympathize with people that have money there they can't get at. Still, every indication both from internal communications and external sources seems to indicate that they're trying to work out a privatization of the company. While it's not the best thing for us players, from a negotiating standpoint it makes perfect sense to "stand pat" while they get the details worked out. This is a drastically different situation from what BOS did, which was basically do nothing. I may reassess my view if they drag their feet going forward, but I've got a hunch that this well end up being OK....
 

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This from Gambling911 at 6:47 pm today. Please note the update in red:

((snip))
Important Update:

An announcement will be forthcoming first thing Monday morning. Three groups are vying to purchase BetCorp's key US facing brands. The company is in a transition period over the weekend and US bettors will be able to use BetWWTS.com once again starting this week.

Gambling911.com has been in touch with management and feel there is absolutely no reason for concern.

updated 6;47 pm ET

Everything else I've heard or read supports this view. Again, it sucks if you have money tied up there that you can't get at but I don't think this is a case where WWTS is trying to stiff anyone.
 

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One more thing for BetWWTS customers:

One thing is certain...whoever buys WWTS is most definitely planning to stay in the offshore business with the US. Existing customers may very likely find themselves with a solid book after all.
 

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Vegas Player 777 said:
One more thing for BetWWTS customers:

One thing is certain...whoever buys WWTS is most definitely planning to stay in the offshore business with the US. Existing customers may very likely find themselves with a solid book after all.

Exactly....unlike the BOS situation which didn't smell good from the start this looks like a case where judgement should be reserved for at least a day or so
 

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Remember George signed this bill around 2AM Saturday morning in Australia - I think we should give them till Monday... Seems reasonable.
 

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Man oh Man this is the trouble with the industry,it is no different than dealing with a local bookie as they can have a bad weekend and turn off the phones and reopen as some other Guido.

This is the same thing BOS did which was we will update on Mon then Friday then by end of month.

And this will cause a run on the other books banks and the snowball effect.

It;s an excuse to stiff!
 

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Where is Sugarbear NOW???????????? He kept saying that I was overreacting, look like he was WRONG.
 

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I have no money or have I ever even registered with them thank goodness.

But WTF are they doing as we;ve all seen this movie and hopefully has a different ending.

For those that have thier money in there it's kinda hard to look forward to a football weekend.
 

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I feel like I have been Hijacked of my $. Sports doesnt mean the same now that I dont have somthing riding on it now!
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FROM SBR

SBR John’s opinion on WWTS


<HR style="COLOR: #336699" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->In a word or two: Extremely disappointed

We have been in talks with the WWTS and will continue to be. In the meantime, we have pulled them off or will be pulling them off our sites as soon as humanly possible.

SBR recognizes these are difficult times. However, there is no legal reason to deny players access to their funds.

WWTS has shown utter incompetence with malice at the highest levels to arrive at a day where their players are denied access to their funds.


Totally agree with this man. Disgraceful. ANd like I said in another post, all they had to do was word it politely and assure payment and it would make a big difference but they did not even do that. Not that it would be right but at least it would appeasethe crowd. Not good.
 

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sean1 said:
You people are acting crazy.

This company can not steal your funds and remain a publicly traded company in London - they would be delisted.

Most likely they are doing two things:

1. Trying to sell the US portion.
2. Figuring out how to transfer the people in the US their money without breaking any laws that could get it delisted or make their execs criminals.

It was 6PM in London when Bush signed this law.

How about giving them till Monday to figure things out with their lawyers.

I mean seriously, if a law changed at 6PM here in the states on a Friday, Bank of America would not give you an answer at midnight - you'd find out on Monday.

Trying to talk reason into unreasonable people is like trying to reason with hurricane season.

Sean


They did not handle this well at all and you should admit that, Sean. Disgraceful.
 

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WWTS did not handle this well. They should have posted we'll have an update on Monday.

But it was 2AM Saturday morning in Australia where they are located when the bill was signed.

If a bill went into effect at 2AM Sat about Bank of America, when do you think Bank of America would comment?

Sean
 

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sean1 said:
WWTS did not handle this well. They should have posted we'll have an update on Monday.

But it was 2AM Saturday morning in Australia where they are located when the bill was signed.

If a bill went into effect at 2AM Sat about Bank of America, when do you think Bank of America would comment?

Sean


they knew it was 99% gonna be signed for 2 weeks though, so this 2am in australia think doesnt hold as much water.

but i c your point.

I fear, however, now they have done it to themselves, EVERYONE will want their money back when they re-open, and that will cause a big problem. They may have to come up with some real ingenious wat to protect themselves from this and calm down the masses.
 

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sean1 said:
WWTS did not handle this well. They should have posted we'll have an update on Monday.

But it was 2AM Saturday morning in Australia where they are located when the bill was signed.

If a bill went into effect at 2AM Sat about Bank of America, when do you think Bank of America would comment?

Sean


First of all they knew and the entire world knew this was coming. So you prepare accordingly. This should have caught noone offguard.

Secondly so what the bill was signed? That effects nothing. Nothing is implemented yet. Nothing has changed.

Am I missing something here, Sean??
 

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SportSavant said:
they knew it was 99% gonna be signed for 2 weeks though, so this 2am in australia think doesnt hold as much water.



Exactly what I said above. I don't get it.
 

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gbogo said:
so now the question is given the value of the company just went down 60-70% how much money can they actually repay.

The stock drop shouldn't matter as far as payouts go. They weren't going to pay players by selling off stock. What they may do however, is take what's left and steal it for their golden parachute.

What matters is how big of a float they were working off of.
 
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