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HOUSTON AT ARIZONA: This one could get interesting just because of the offensive firepower on the field. I'm a little surprised the total is still at 49. This is the type of game the public likes to bet Over. Sharps know that, so they'd be prone to take a position at 49, then come back for a middle at 51 or 52. Totals are going on the board a bit later than they used to...so maybe strategies like that are going to take hold later in the week than in the past. Sportsbooks are being very careful during football season now. They're just not making enough during the other sports to cover losses in football. The corporations need to win NOW.

Losses my ass, there still making a killing. They really expect us to beleive that drivvel about books losing money on football.
 

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Numberz,

Are you hitting NBA again this season? When do you usually start? Looking forward to your insight on NBA.
 

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Losses my ass, there still making a killing. They really expect us to beleive that drivvel about books losing money on football.

This season appears to be a players season, at least to this point...Alot of lopsided matchups where the line is not coming into play and the better team is covering their number, no matter how high oddsmakers set it. Bad news for Vegas in light of public affection for favorites. This week, we've seen the books adjust, by setting high spreads, in a number of games. Gut tells me that if Vegas takes another hit, we start seeing more and more double digit spreads as the season goes on, with higher and higher numbers for the favs.

As far as their profits for the year, I have a source that tells me they've actually lost 3 out of the first 4 weeks to the betting public. Take that fwiw. It's still early obviously, but this year is beginning to remind me of 05 season. This week should be very telling, in terms of what the market will be like for the remainder of the season, for us bettors.

GL this season HighFlyer :103631605
 

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Numberz,

Are you hitting NBA again this season? When do you usually start? Looking forward to your insight on NBA.

Of course. As far as when I start, alot of that depends on the football season. I'll be in the NBA forum no later than 15-20 games into the season. Most likely earlier than that though!

Hope to see you there when the time comes :toast:
 

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Been sitting on these for a few days, and finally decided to pull the trigger...GL :103631605

*$2,000* Minnesota Vikings SU, Pittsburgh Steelers SU, New York Jets +8 (-120)

*$1,750* Minnesota Vikings SU, Pittsburgh Steelers SU, New England Patriots +6.5 (-120)

*$1,250* Minnesota Vikings SU, Pittsburgh Steelers SU, Buffalo Bills +4 (-120)
 

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Makes it 4 out of 5 winning weeks, pending Jets +8.

Absolutely killing 2H bets this year....wish their was something I can do to get them posted onto the site...but don't have access to the site during gameday...perhaps someone would volunteer to receive a text and post them for me? Can't think of anything else. But at this point, my halftime wagers are hitting at over 80%. Hopefully I can think of a way to start posting them :toast:

GL to anyone with action in tonight's game :103631605
 

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You can text me on my cell and I'll post them if I'm infront of a computer, which mostly I will be on Sunday but not guaranteed.
Please PM me if you don't mind long distance and I'll PM you my cell number. Or we can use my blackberry email address which go to me instantly.
 

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You can text me on my cell and I'll post them if I'm infront of a computer, which mostly I will be on Sunday but not guaranteed.
Please PM me if you don't mind long distance and I'll PM you my cell number. Or we can use my blackberry email address which go to me instantly.

Appreciate the offer P :toast:

Give me a few days to decide what would be best and I'll contact you through PM when the time is appropriate...

Thanks again for the offer :103631605
 

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Home teams and favorites in general have been money so far......been a weird season for DD favorites as well, as they have been covering at high clip..Last year was the total opposite, as DD dogs were major bread winners, especially early on..Expecting the DD favs to cover less and return to mean as season goes on...let's see how things shape up...so far, ATS records, are as follows...

Away Teams 35-40-1
Home Teams 40-35-1
Favorites 42-33-1
Dogs 33-42-1
Away Favorites 14-12-0
Away Dogs 21-28-1
Home Favorites 28-21-1
Home Dogs 12-14-0
 

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*$3,500* Atlanta Falcons (–3) over Chicago Bears (-115)

Atlanta has turned into one of the hottest Home teams in the NFL, since acquiring 2nd year QB Matt Ryan, as they have gone 9-1 SU in their L10 when playing at the Georgia Dome. One of those victories conveniently enough was against the Bears last season, who historically have shown a tendency to struggle when playing games on turf. Atlanta came out of the BYE last week, looking like a team on a mission, as they dismantled a good 49ers team on the road. Now they return home, to play a soft run blocking, turnover prone offense in Chicago, whose defense is coming off a game to the Lions where they surrendered 300+ yards through the air to a team that has not come close to that type of production in any of their 4 other games this season. Does not bode well for Chicago, considering the explosive potential the Falcons bring to the field every Sunday. Atlanta’s offense has too much firepower to contain, and will be looking to build off their most impressive offensive performance of the year against what many consider to be a good 49ers Defense. Bears needed 2 missed field goals by each of their L2 opponents played, to narrowly escape with a victory, and have not provided any reason to buy stock in their 3-1 record. I don’t see them being so “lucky” against a dominant home team in Atlanta. Feel comfortable laying a field goal, in what will be my biggest play of the week.


*$3,000* New York Jets (–2.5) over Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots –2 over Tennessee Titans (-130)
(2 Team/7 pt Teaser)


Expecting Buffalo’s defense to be eaten alive by the run game of the Jets here. New york is average 132 yds/game on the ground, while the Bills have given up 222, 250, and 171 rushing yards in their L3 games, and laid out the blueprint for teams looking to beat them. Jets coming off b2b losses to Saints and Dolphins, and will feast on the opportunity to play against lesser competition. They sport the better defense and are undoubtedly the better team. I expect them to dominate from beginning to end, but number is high so prefer teasing them down to what is virtually a pick. I think they get the win at home against a very below average Buffalo team.

Patriots coming off a road loss in Denver, and are in the proverbial bounce back spot at home against an 0-5 Titans team. As far as winning games after a loss, Patriots are a team to trust, imo, as they have gone 19-6 ATS following a SU loss, and fair even better in terms of outright winning the game. Titans look like a team that is free falling at the moment. Once a 12-4 team, they have started out the season 0-5 and most recently got blown out by Indy at home, which many people thought of as a “must win” situation for Tennessee. Their secondary is struggling, their receivers are dropping balls, and already there is some controversy surrounding their QB situation. Again, the number is high and Tennessee’s running game may keep it too close for comfort, so prefer teasing it down to what is virtually a pick, as I doubt NE surrenders the victory to a winless Titans team, in front of their home crowd.


*$2,500* New Orleans Saints (–3) over New York Giants (-115)


Both teams regarded as top dogs in the NFC, and rightfully so. However, while the Saints have handily defeated two quality opponents in the Eagles and Jets, the Giants are yet to play against a team that is above .500 and stand out as the untested team between the two. Saints are also the healthier of the two teams as the Giants are dealing with injuries to key players. Giants Quarterback Eli Manning is nursing a foot injury, which will not keep him sidelined, but should have an effect on his mechanics, and his mobility inside and outside of the pocket. Giants, will once again be forced to play without their starting safety, which does not bode well for them considering they face off against a QB in Drew Brees, who makes a living off of exposing secondaries. I think his presence will be sorely missed by the Giants against this high octane Saints offense. With the Saints relatively healthy and coming off the BYE, where they have had two weeks to prepare for this much anticipated matchup, they are an automatic play for me at such a low number. They are hungry, play like a team that has something to prove on defense, and are poised to prove to people that they finally have a complete team. I like the home team here.


*$2,000* Kansas Chiefs (+7) over Washington Redskins (-120)


Way too many points here for an over-rated Redskins team that has looked horrible early on. Redskins have been the beneficiaries of arguably the easiest schedule to date, and have failed to take advantage of some of the worst teams in the NFL. They nearly lost to a pathetic Rams team at home, handed the Lions their 1st win in almost 2 years, needed a come from behind TD at home to beat a very bad Bucs team, and handed Carolina their 1st win on the season over the weekend, despite winning the Turnover battle. That makes the Redskins responsible for handing two very bad teams in the NFL their only win on the season, and allowing the other two, their smallest margin of defeat on the year. Their offensive ineptitude is not their only shortcoming, they are terribly coached, and are beginning to deal with the consequences of a divided locker room. No reason why they should be favored by so much against a Chiefs team, that looked good last week against the Cowboys. Where Washington has played arguably the easiest schedule to date, the Chiefs have played arguably one of the most difficult. 4 of the 5 opponents faced, were Super bowl favorites coming into the year (Ravens, Giants, Eagles, Cowboys). Now they have the luxury of playing against much softer competition in the Redskins and are looking to build off a solid performance against Dallas. Something tells me they pick up the win here, but playing the points to be safe. Will continue to fade a terrible Redskins team, until oddsmakers adjust their numbers accordingly. Washington is 0-2 ATS at home this year, and 0-5 ATS in their L5 as a home favorite.


*$2,000* Carolina (–3) over Washington Redskins (-115)

Panthers looking to build off their 1st win of the year, and facing off against the 0-5 Buccaneers figures to make matters easier for them to do just that. Bucs are a team in transition, and have looked equally bad on both sides of the ball thus far. They are giving up an average, of nearly 400 yds/game on defense, and already have a game under their belt this season, where they put up less than 100 total yards of offense. Both teams bad here, but on altogether different levels, imo. Panthers coming off a solid 2H performance to the Skins, where they scored the last 18 points of the game, to get the monkey off their back and pick up their 1st win on the year. This team is well coached, and still has some fight left in them. I look for them to build off the momentum resulting from their 2H comeback to Washington here against Tampa. Fading a Bucs team that shouldn’t be this small of a dog to anyone but the Rams or Browns, imo. The favorite in the series, is 4-1 ATS in their L5. Bucs are 0-5 ATS in their L5 home games, and Panthers are 5-0 in their L5 as a road fav.
 

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*$3,500* Atlanta Falcons (–3) over Chicago Bears (-115)

Atlanta has become one of the hottest Home teams in the NFL, since acquiring 2nd year QB Matt Ryan, as they have gone 9-1 SU in their L10 when playing at the Georgia Dome. One of those victories conveniently enough was against the Bears last season, who historically have shown a tendency to struggle when playing games on turf. Atlanta came out of the BYE last week, looking like a team on a mission, as they dismantled a good 49ers team on the road. Now they return home, to play a soft run blocking, turnover prone offense in Chicago, whose defense is coming off a game to the Lions where they surrendered 300+ yards through the air to a team that has not come close to that type of production in any of their 4 other games this season. Does not bode well for Chicago, considering the explosive potential the Falcons bring to the field every Sunday. Atlanta’s offense has too much firepower to contain, and will be looking to build off their most impressive offensive performance of the year against what many consider to be a good 49ers Defense. Bears needed 2 missed field goals by each of their L2 opponents, in order to narrowly escape with a victory, and have not provided us with any reason to buy stock in their 3-1 record. I don’t see them being so “lucky” this week against a dominant home team in Atlanta. Feel comfortable laying a field goal here, in what will be my biggest play of the week.


(2 Team/7 pt Teaser)
*$3,000* New York Jets (–2.5) over Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots –2 over Tennessee Titans (-130)

Expecting Buffalo’s defense to be eaten alive by the run game of the Jets here. New york is average 132 yds/game on the ground, while the Bills have given up 222, 250, and 171 rushing yards in their L3 games, and laid out the blueprint for teams looking to beat them. Jets coming off b2b losses to Saints and Dolphins, and will feast on the opportunity to play against lesser competition. They sport the better defense and are undoubtedly the better team. I expect them to dominate from beginning to end, but number is high so prefer teasing them down to what is virtually a pick. I think they get the win at home against a very below average Buffalo team.

Patriots coming off a road loss in Denver, and are in the proverbial bounce back spot at home against an 0-5 Titans team. As far as winning games after a loss, Patriots are a team to trust, imo, as they have gone 19-6 ATS following a SU loss, and fair even better in terms of outright winning the game. Titans look like a team that is free falling at the moment. Once a 12-4 team, they have started out the season 0-5 and most recently got blown out by Indy at home, which many people thought of as a “must win” situation for Tennessee. Their secondary is struggling, their receivers are dropping balls, and already there is some controversy surrounding their QB situation. Again, the number is high and Tennessee’s running game may keep it too close for comfort, so prefer teasing it down to what is virtually a pick, as I doubt NE surrenders the victory to a winless Titans team, in front of their home crowd.


*$2,500* New Orleans Saints (–3) over New York Giants (-115)

Both teams regarded as top dogs in the NFC, and rightfully so. However, while the Saints have handily defeated two quality opponents in the Eagles and Jets, the Giants are yet to play against a team that is above .500 and stand out as the untested team between the two. Saints are also the healthier of the two teams as the Giants are dealing with injuries to key players. Giants Quarterback Eli Manning is nursing a foot injury, which will not keep him sidelined, but should have an effect on his mechanics, and his mobility inside and outside of the pocket. Giants, will once again be forced to play without their starting safety, which does not bode well for them considering they face off against a QB in Drew Brees, who makes a living off of exposing secondaries. I think his presence will be sorely missed by the Giants against this high octane Saints offense. With the Saints relatively healthy and coming off the BYE, where they have had two weeks to prepare for this much anticipated matchup, they are an automatic play for me at such a low number. They are hungry, play like a team that has something to prove on defense, and are poised to prove to people that they finally have a complete team. I like the home team here.


*$2,000* Kansas Chiefs (+7) over Washington Redskins (-120)

Way too many points here for an over-rated Redskins team that has looked horrible early on. Redskins have been the beneficiaries of arguably the easiest schedule to date, and have failed to take advantage of some of the worst teams in the NFL. They nearly lost to a pathetic Rams team at home, handed the Lions their 1st win in almost 2 years, needed a come from behind TD at home to beat a very bad Bucs team, and handed Carolina their 1st win on the season over the weekend, despite winning the Turnover battle. That makes the Redskins responsible for handing two very bad teams in the NFL their only win on the season, and allowing the other two, their smallest margin of defeat on the year. Their offensive ineptitude is not their only shortcoming, they are terribly coached, and are beginning to deal with the consequences of a divided locker room. No reason why they should be favored by so much against a Chiefs team, that looked good last week against the Cowboys. Where Washington has played arguably the easiest schedule to date, the Chiefs have played arguably one of the most difficult. 4 of the 5 opponents faced, were Super bowl favorites coming into the year (Ravens, Giants, Eagles, Cowboys). Now they have the luxury of playing against much softer competition in the Redskins and are looking to build off a solid performance against Dallas. Something tells me they pick up the win here, but playing the points to be safe. Will continue to fade a terrible Redskins team, until oddsmakers adjust their numbers accordingly. Washington is 0-2 ATS at home this year, and 0-5 ATS in their L5 as a home favorite.


*$2,000* Carolina (–3) over Washington Redskins (-115)


Panthers looking to build off their 1st win of the year, and facing off against the 0-5 Buccaneers figures to make matters easier for them to do just that. Bucs are a team in transition, and have looked equally bad on both sides of the ball thus far. They are giving up an average, of nearly 400 yds/game on defense, and already have a game under their belt this season, where they put up less than 100 total yards of offense. Both teams bad here, but on altogether different levels, imo. Panthers coming off a solid 2H performance to the Skins, where they scored the last 18 points of the game, to get the monkey off their back and pick up their 1st win on the year. This team is well coached, and still has some fight left in them. I look for them to build off the momentum resulting from their 2H comeback to Washington here against Tampa. Fading a Bucs team that shouldn’t be this small of a dog to anyone but the Rams or Browns, imo. The favorite in the series, is 4-1 ATS in their L5. Bucs are 0-5 ATS in their L5 home games, and Panthers are 5-0 in their L5 as a road fav.
 

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Appreciate the offer P :toast:

Give me a few days to decide what would be best and I'll contact you through PM when the time is appropriate...

Thanks again for the offer :103631605


No problem. Let me know if I can help.:103631605

Definitely want to check out your 2H plays and ride that streak.
 

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*$2,250* St. Louis Rams/Jacksonville Jaguars OVER 43

Rams defense has surrendered 30 +points in 3 consecutive games, and rank 2nd to last in NFL, in total defense. They are an absolute mess defensively. Jacksonville should have no problem scoring here, as they have shown they can put up points against soft defenses and will be looking to bounce back after getting shut out and embarrassed by the Seahawks last week. Rams offense on the other hand, got back a couple of their O-linemen last week, and showed significant improvement on offense as a result, as they surprisingly outgained Minnesota in total yardage for the day. Their issue was turning the ball over in the Red Zone. However, the Jaguars are not the team the Vikings are defensively, and I expect the Rams to punch it in a few times to push this one over the total. Both teams defensively give up a combined 55 points per game, and the offenses should be fired up for this one. I see a 34-17 type game here with plenty of points to push it over. The Over is 4-1 in Jacksonville's L5 home games. GL as always :103631605
 

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Looking to add 2 more totals to the card..still have some kinks to work out..be back later tonight/tom to update..
 

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I like your picks this week. Panthers can't seem to cover the ATS, let's see if they finally do.
 

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I like your picks this week. Panthers can't seem to cover the ATS, let's see if they finally do.

Bucs have 28th worst rush defense in the league (153 yards a game), which means Delhomme shouldn't have to do too much here for the Panthers to get the win, which is to our advantage. Delhomme is best in the role of game manager at this stage of his career, and I think Carolina's backs will help him perform that role by hitting the gaping holes in Tampa's "D", early and often. Bucs passing game showed some improvement last week, but without defense, it's difficult to win in this league. They have already given up 30 points or more 3 times out of 5 games played, and have allowed a team to rush for more than 200 yards twice already. Last year against Tampa Bay, DeAngelo Williams rushed for 186 yds and two TDs, and I think he's going to put up similar numbers this time around against a much much weaker Tampa Bay defense. If Delhomme doesn't turn the ball over in the red zone, I think this one will be comfortable. Plus I think some of the momentum resulting from Carolina's comeback win last Sunday, spills over into this one and pushes Carolina over the edge here to get the win. Either way, the chance to fade the Bucs and this defense at a field goal, is too much to pass up, imo. Needless to say, I like Carolina's spot and matchup here. Win or lose, I feel comfortable with the play and have faith that they will take care of business and bring home the bread.

Good Luck this week GS :103631605
 

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Thanks, Carolina sounds like they are infavor to win now. Best of Luck! :toast:
 

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Those looking to bet Titans/Pats or Bills/Jets should seek an updated weather report early Sunday morning.

The preliminary forecast calls for a 90% chance of rain with an inch of accumulation, and winds up to 30 mph, in both stadiums.

Just a friendly reminder to check for weather update if you have interest in the game.

Good luck.
 

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