BETCBS/CASABLANCA STEALING Thousands of dollars AFTER AN EVENT HAS HAPPENED/POST HERE IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE.

[Halifax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ATX:
Halifax,

your repeated statements that Casablanca NEVER hangs opinionated lines is quite simply false.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the next time you see one, maybe you could point it out to me.

I don't mean a -124 on a baseball game when Pinnacle has -125, but if you see a significant underdog, with a magnitude similar to the one under discussion, my hat would be off to you for pointing it out to me.

 

[ATX]

I only played there for the NcAA basketball tourney when I saw their FLA ML. It was a LOT farther off than what is being discussed.

 

[marc]

This is what I don't understand, bet cbs only lost 10k - 20k they should just pay it and be done with it. If the loss was closer to 100k as some of us suspect, where is Dave. What kind of business is he runnig. First he allows himself to make a $100k error. Then rather than trying to rectify the matter he takes a few days off. Doe she have any sense of responsibility.

 

[Halifax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ATX:
I only played there for the NcAA basketball tourney when I saw their FLA ML. It was a LOT farther off than what is being discussed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Was the good number on the underdog or the favourite ??

 

[Bucky]

ATX - I also look at their lines on a daily basis and agree with Halifax that they DO NOT opionate their line or even ask for buy back they just Super Clone it.

What you found might have been a little loose and they did not realize it.

Jim Ross posed a good question. Too bad we do not have a Union. 50 guys were to withdraw maybe it would get their attention. Me. personally, I cashed in today. No need to take a chance on a fiasco like this! I mean come on - Dave won't even talk to the players on this. What would he do if they were ever running low on funds to payout with? Take a month off - See ya when I get back - if I feel like coming back.

 

[areeff]

Most people were scalping the FL NCAA ML at betcbs. How do i know this? I didn't even have money at CBS but i posted up just for this scalp. I must've been the last person to hit this too and i got a monster scalp. I imagine the original line was -2999/+7500 scalp.

They had -3999 or was it -4999? I don't remember but pinnacle was -8600/+6600.

Now where is the "bad line"

After talking to someone who i won't mention privately it has been insinuated lightly that somehow i have some multistate syndicate. That in fact buckys friend could somehow be me? That is silly. Let's put all the to rest. Bucky will confirm the first time i've ever even talked to his buddy (which i'm not even sure what state he is in). This is silly, bucky will confirm this.

The funniest part about this is that the guy who IMed me was in a EUROPE(i won't reveal the exact country so he can't get pigeonholed. Go figure. The world isn't as big as some of you all think. The only reason he didn't bet on it was he had all his money tied up in other scalps". He apologized because he felt bad for giving me the line because we talked about it and he said he didn't think it was a bad line so he recommended it

As for now i have to leave to jamaica for a week starting 6/26 to 7/3. Maybe Dave would like to skip over and do lunch?

Anyways now that Dave seems to be open to suggestions let's all wait and see what he has to say.

I would like to thank you guys for your support as i've gotten almost 10 emails now from guys saying they withdrew all their money. I'm not sure how many actually did or how many more but i assume its more.

 

[vinividivinci]

Dimeplayersonly

Here is a CLASSIC example of what you are talking about.

Saturday May 3, at Churchill Downs enjoying the Derby. No NBA that day so just MLB and horses, so I thought.

About 7:00 Eastern I had an enquiry about the De La Hoya vs. Campas fight. Always one to attempt to encourage a wager, I called several offshore books with which I do business (the locals had had the good scence to close earlier, so I couldn't get a line there.)

Well, to make a painfully longer story a bit shorter, I decided to use De La Hoya - 3200 and Campas + 2200.

To my detriment, I gave the line out as -320 vs. +220. Whose "silly-assed guidy from winning The Derby exacta mint juliep influenced mistake was this?"

I was so clueless I did not even realize the extent of my mistake until Sunday afternoon. Did think it was unusual to take such heavy action on an off-the-wall boxing match!

Do you think I hollared "Sorry, Boys, Bad Line!"
No, I did what every other "honorable idiot" has done upon making a mistake. Ouch, but it won't happen again!

Now, do I look at those customers who maxed out on the bad line in a different light? Yeah, I do!!!

Was it their fault? NO! I was the one drinking Mint Julieps, not them.

Long way around to saying if you make a mistake in business and your customers take advantage, shame on you.


VVV

 

[Halifax]

"Most people were scalping the FL NCAA ML at betcbs. How do i know this? I didn't even have money at CBS but i posted up just for this scalp. I must've been the last person to hit this too and i got a monster scalp. I imagine the original line was -2999/+7500 scalp.

They had -3999 or was it -4999? I don't remember but pinnacle was -8600/+6600."
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areeff:

-4999 / +6600

You think that's a monster scalp ? It's half a percent LOL. Even if the scalp was -3999 / +6600, it's still less than a percent.

It's barely worth doing, unless you're trying to monetize a 5 Dimes matchplay bonus, or move some money from one book to another.

Besides, this can hardly be compared to their +605. What would their total exposure be on a -4999 favourite, a couple of cases of beer LOL ??

 

[dimeplayersonly]

Vinnie...............absolutely correct

you would think these guys (latest is casablanca) would understand that they would be better off paying the bet and not letting it escalate to this b.s.


the times ive screwed a line up, i never ever said anything to the player about it, i just graded it and went on...
(id rather the player think i had soft lines, rather than think im an imbecile)..

 

[areeff]

Halifax to the contrary.

3999 wins 100. 100 wins 6600

If the dog wins you've won 2601.00 risk free. How is that not a monster scalp?

Note: The guy who told me about the line was not in southern europe

Note2: It appears that the numbers i heard a guy yell in the background were false. It was not 12-20 but a handful or so that played these numbers. I won't reveal anything to detailed as to protect the information that i have been told privately.

 

[vinividivinci]

Dimes

Right on, Right on!!


VVV

p.s. Maybe it's good. If all these offshore guys had a clue they'd be competition.

p.p.s. Most of these "standing up guys" must have SOME experience prior to stumbling upon the "bad line" excuse.

 

[Halifax]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by areeff:
Halifax to the contrary.

3999 wins 100. 100 wins 6600

If the dog wins you've won 2601.00 risk free. How is that not a monster scalp?

Note: The guy who told me about the line was not in southern europe

Note2: It appears that the numbers i heard a guy yell in the background were false. It was not 12-20 but a handful or so that played these numbers. I won't reveal anything to detailed as to protect the information that i have been told privately.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is this a serious question LOL ?

It's not a monster scalp because the underdog will almost never win this match, and the way you set it up, it will simply be a breakeven bet most all of the time.

If you set it up to win an equal dollar amount, no matter whether the favourite or the underdog wins, the profit is less than one-half-of-one-percent of your at-risk money.

 

[ATX]

Halifax,

I was merely providing an example of an opinionated line at CBS per your request. Are you questioning that the FLA ML was opinionated? Keep in mind that this was at the beginning of the NCAA tournament when volume is VERY high. The % on/off doesnt matter, that number attracted a LOT of volume, you asked for an example, and if they did it once why would they not do it again? I didnt scalp with it, I parlayed with it.

I also dont buy the fact that Dave is out of town. Too many people subscribe to the anecdote that by ignoring a problem it will go away (SBA).

 

[Bucky]

Well, Areef - enjoy your trip. Hopefully CBS comes to their senses. I appreciate your talking to my friend about this. Like I told him - hang in there - keep your cool - it's my opinion CBS will lose more money with this bad publicity than what they are saving by not paying the bets so maybe they will come around and do the right thing.

 

[seawave]

It is sad to see a good book turns bad.
BetCBS and Dave, do the right thing:
pay the winners.
In gambling, sometimes you lose and some time you win.
When you lose, do not cry, get up and get it back later, especially when the odds are in your favor.
If you pay the winner now, you will get your loss back later.
If you do not pay the winner, your book will have no players, and you, the manager, will be out of job.

 

[assassin]

ok, which one of you guys did it.

betcbs site is down.
Codeworks? oldfriend?

 

[areeff]

It's up for me, unless thats my cache loading.

For the record let's get this out of the way i will never resort to any childish things like taking down a website or signup dave up for spam or whatever so lets nix any talk of that now should it come up.

Thanks

 

[assassin]

it is back up
maybe I had too many things open
Funny, they didn't have any tennis lines

 

[areeff]

yeah they have taken all tennis lines down for the past 2 days since this incident. Smart move.

 

[go2guy]

When it's said and done areff I hope they make this right with you, the best of luck man!