I am not one to bet a whole lot, but I DO read most threads and posts here. You are repeatedly questioning why "the bashing of touts", you also state "as long as they are being honest and ethical...", I think you've answered your own question. From what I have read, bashing begins when dishonesty has occured.
Yeah, there are honest touts, they work hard blah, blah, blah ...
... but I would tell people not to use them and for that, I am going to quote Fezzik here:
It is easier to pick winners than it is to find an honest tout
So why waste time trying to find an honest tout? Especially when it's twice as easy to simply pick a winner.
... but I would tell people not to use them and for that, I am going to quote Fezzik here:
It is easier to pick winners than it is to find an honest tout
So why waste time trying to find an honest tout? Especially when it's twice as easy to simply pick a winner.
spunlimited,if i had a winning formula,if i knew that @ the end of the day,i was goin to eventually win millions of dollars,,the very absolute last thing a sober reasonable person would think of is this....i am goin to get on the internet & beg a bunch of addicted desperate gamblers to send me some money,,,,99% of these guys are goin to talk to me like a dog(& my dead wife,children,neighbors,pets etc).WHY WOULD I DO THAT????? answer=a sober & reasonable person wouldnt...... do ye reckon that those actions are what a desperate addict would do to support his habit? happy trails compadres
Mr. Leisure said:
Because maybe you are not hitting 57% or 58%? Records have nothing to do with this conversation. All Handicappers have winning streaks and losing streaks.
The point of this conversation is continual criticism of the "Sports Handicapping Service" in general, being dishonest and unethical. Which in reality is not the case. Please read back to the earlier posts to get a better understanding of the topic at hand.
Thanks,
BigRon
ANOTHER NOTE:
As long as we are on the subject I would like to make reference to two individuals in the Sports Handicapping Service industry that everyone seems to come down hard on. While these are not the only two, I will use them as an example for all.
1. A Certain Sports Service based in Cincinnati Ohio
2. A Certain Handicapper who just had a movie made about him.
Posters are continually bashing these two and my question is Why?
They simply had an idea, "It Worked" and now they are making a killing!! Isn't that the whole idea. Why come down on them. Why not congratulate them for a job well done!!
AMERICA - THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY!!
As long as we are on the subject I would like to make reference to two individuals in the Sports Handicapping Service industry that everyone seems to come down hard on. While these are not the only two, I will use them as an example for all.
1. A Certain Sports Service based in Cincinnati Ohio
2. A Certain Handicapper who just had a movie made about him.
Posters are continually bashing these two and my question is Why?
They simply had an idea, "It Worked" and now they are making a killing!! Isn't that the whole idea. Why come down on them. Why not congratulate them for a job well done!!
AMERICA - THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY!!
It's a fact that touts have been on the "more" unethical side of things since the word "tout" was first used in this industry.
Not all touts are scam artists...just like not all handicappers pick 100 percent winners in a lifetime.
I think they don't have as much of a powerful grip on players as they did have a few years back. I do think you have to be careful as to how you define a "tout". There are cappers that sell picks that I respect. These cappers are a lot fewer and farther between than the majority of the touts out there though.
sb
Not all touts are scam artists...just like not all handicappers pick 100 percent winners in a lifetime.
I think they don't have as much of a powerful grip on players as they did have a few years back. I do think you have to be careful as to how you define a "tout". There are cappers that sell picks that I respect. These cappers are a lot fewer and farther between than the majority of the touts out there though.
sb
This is one of the weirdest topics that have come up today....
Big Ron;
Why are you trying to "Bash" the people that "Bash" touts. I agree AMERICA - THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY!! but w/ most if not all touts the problem arises when you have to pick so many games to make your customers happy because its 9:30 PM central and a guy calls in and needs some late action.
Touts are not Gamblers they are sales people!! You buy a car from a sales person not a gambler...so why would you buy your picks from a salesperson and not a gambler. Thats why these types of forums thrive. There are 100's of picks from GAMBLERS and who are not salespeople....JMO
Big Ron;
Why are you trying to "Bash" the people that "Bash" touts. I agree AMERICA - THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY!! but w/ most if not all touts the problem arises when you have to pick so many games to make your customers happy because its 9:30 PM central and a guy calls in and needs some late action.
Touts are not Gamblers they are sales people!! You buy a car from a sales person not a gambler...so why would you buy your picks from a salesperson and not a gambler. Thats why these types of forums thrive. There are 100's of picks from GAMBLERS and who are not salespeople....JMO
I am a casual bettor I look for some mechanical ideas. i read papers and form opinions i read at rx and go along with the cappers i percive as good.I like my ego to and get in the way and see if I can pick em.
I also for 4 years now subscribe to Phil Steeles power sweep it comes on Thursday gives me a 4 star college game a college upset pick a pro 4 star and a pro stat play. i bet the 4 games. last year wasexceptional the pros were 50-50 but thecollege 4 star was 10-2 and the upset 7-3 i think. those kind of numbers. i guess phil is a tout he sells all sorts of other services which i dont partake in. so it works for me. he also ranks a lot of other games and if phil and ace and hansenbros are on the same side i join in. so whats wrong with that or the use of phil steele ? oh yeah he cdosts 90 bucks a year
I also for 4 years now subscribe to Phil Steeles power sweep it comes on Thursday gives me a 4 star college game a college upset pick a pro 4 star and a pro stat play. i bet the 4 games. last year wasexceptional the pros were 50-50 but thecollege 4 star was 10-2 and the upset 7-3 i think. those kind of numbers. i guess phil is a tout he sells all sorts of other services which i dont partake in. so it works for me. he also ranks a lot of other games and if phil and ace and hansenbros are on the same side i join in. so whats wrong with that or the use of phil steele ? oh yeah he cdosts 90 bucks a year
