anyone who thinks the NFL is rigged...

[cd329]

dude..you need to learn something about debating...you can't make up shit and you can't misquote people..don't you read? i said i DO believe in corruption. why do you act so enlightened when we all believe in corruption and know about it. how do we live in a dream world? this just goes to show what kind of people believe in these theories..not very bright people. i just gave a whole paragraph or two to you that we all do believe in corruption and are aware of it. we just will NOT believe that it is so frequent that there are games every week that are rigged, give me a break. yes, that ref got caught, because he was the culprit..NOT the league, you get it? you are helping me prove my point with your own words it's hilarious. if the league was in on it they would have been found out. but this was just one ref ,working his own agenda on his own or with mobsters, not with the league itself..gimme a break..you arguments are weak weak weak

are you really this dumb? The leagues have no desire to expose any dirty things happening in the games. That would be like killing somebody and then walking into the polic station and admitting what you just did.
No sense in arguing with you or anybody else. You guys have your own opinions and i have mine.

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

sports industry in the top 5 factors to the economy. if you cant figure out why corruption in sports will never be exposed, then am sorry you truly are clueless about how society works.

Why can't it be exposed if its really happening? Please enlighten us since you know so much about this.

Im sure sometime throughout history some athlete somewhere would have blew this story wide open by now.

 

[cd329]

Why can't it be exposed if its really happening? Please enlighten us since you know so much about this.

Im sure sometime throughout history some athlete somewhere would have blew this story wide open by now.

I never said it cant be exposed, i said it wouldnt be exposed. The leagues wouldnt want to kill their own gravy train. They basically look the other way, just as long as their billions keep rolling in.
But never mind you guys are right, it was my mistake. Sports are not fixed and athletes are caring honest people who would never think of doing such a thing. How the hell could i ever come up such a far fetched idea? Wha a complete idiot iam.

 

[Mistermj]

are you nuts? Nobodys going to bust the corruption. People would stop going to games if they got exposed. What you need to understand is how the world operates. Everything is based off money and humans will do anything to get it. Also it doesnt matter how much money all these people make,because they always want more and more. Also nobody knows the real reasons guys might throw games. Hell some can be in debt to the mob as just one example.
Let me also now give you one good example of how money no matter how much a person has is never enough. Martha Stewart risked her whole billion dollar{more then athletes make} empire to make an extra 300k on her stocks. No why in the hell would anybody risk a billion dollar fortune to make some chump change? Its because we are never happy with what we have, we always want more.

Lastly getting back to why hasnt the corruption been exposed. The sports industry{not the gambling part} is in the top 5 contributors to our whole economy. If they ever fully exposed the sports industry and said games are fixed on a regular basis, that would have a devasting effect on the economy. So its in the best interests of everybody at the top to make sure it never does get exposed, because people would stop going to games and not spend money on any sports related stuff. Too much money involved.
Why do you think that nba ref scandal got hushed under the table so fast by our govt?
You can call it conspiracy stuff or whatever, but the truth is we live in a very corrupt world and money is at the center of it all. Just look at what the crooks on wallstreet have done to the country? So to sit around believing that for some reason athletes wouldnt be as corrupt, really is just foolish. But hey this is just my opinion.
Good luck:toast:

Nope not nuts...just looking for evidence...and I don't see any. Just wild unsubstantiated speculation about conspiracies...but again...you provide no proof.

To admit the world lives for money ...and then ignore the fact that people can make money by exposing corruption is ignoring your own theory.

Why wouldn't somebody with no ties to the NFL bust it for corruption?

Of course they would. Most people understand this. Basic common sense.

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

I never said it cant be exposed, i said it wouldnt be exposed. The leagues wouldnt want to kill their own gravy train. They basically look the other way, just as long as their billions keep rolling in.
But never mind you guys are right, it was my mistake. Sports are not fixed and athletes are caring honest people who would never think of doing such a thing. How the hell could i ever come up such a far fetched idea? Wha a complete idiot iam.

I never said some games could'nt be fixed to a certain extent. I sure as hell don't beleive in a leauge wide conspiracy with all those people involved can be kept hush for all these years.

Too many loudmouths around to keep it a secret.

Im sure Canseco or O.J. would have came out with a book by now.

 

[sumday]

are you really this dumb? The leagues have no desire to expose any dirty things happening in the games. That would be like killing somebody and then walking into the polic station and admitting what you just did.
No sense in arguing with you or anybody else. You guys have your own opinions and i have mine.

you are the dumb one, the leagues have no desire to expose any dirty things..no shit moron...im not saying they would expose it, im saying it would be exposed somehow..you really think you can get away with that and not have it exposed/ who would risk so much? you don't think these leagues, especially the NFL rake in the cash without resorting to fixing games? dumbass. look at the papparazzi, the nosy reporters, even overly paranoid halfwits like you..all these peopl live to expose shit like this and get rich off of it, our whole society is about exposing shit, we make money off of it..you think you are so enlightened that there is corruption around..how about you wake up and realize that 99.9 percent of people that live in this world believe that there is corruption in society..stop trying to act special. that's not the argument here...the argument is that you people believe the actual leagues are in on it and that is occurs so frequently..you can't keep that kind of shit under wraps..you really think people are that stupid? there would be clear cut evidence out there right now, not just examples here and there(which by the way doesn't prove that the actual league is in on it) you don't know people, people who leak it, if there were games fixed every week, even one a week, it would be leaked. doesnt matter how profitable it might be to not have it exposed, it's more profitable to have it exposed..besides there is always one dumb fuck that wants it exposed just for the hell of it or for fame.you think people can keep their mouth shut? doesnt matter what position they are in.who is fixing these games for the league? the refs? certain coaches or players? all of the above? you think coaches or refs wouldn't have leaked it by now? especially ones that would never undermind the integrity of the game? you know it goes both ways. it's a given that there are corrupt people, but you are also naive if you don't believe that even in today's world, there are people that would be disgusted at the thought of fixing a game and would have no part of it and would go out and expose it or complain. it's just not feasible. too many factors and risk involved for a league to be fixing games every week..come on people, let's not get crazy. this behaviour and mentality is destructive to yourselves. it's a degenerate way of behaving..classic degenerate behavior

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

you are the dumb one, the leagues have no desire to expose any dirty things..no shit moron...im not saying they would expose it, im saying it would be exposed somehow..you really think you can get away with that and not have it exposed/ who would risk so much? you don't think these leagues, especially the NFL rake in the cash without resorting to fixing games? dumbass. look at the papparazzi, the nosy reporters, even overly paranoid halfwits like you..all these peopl live to expose shit like this and get rich off of it, our whole society is about exposing shit, we make money off of it..you think you are so enlightened that there is corruption around..how about you wake up and realize that 99.9 percent of people that live in this world believe that there is corruption in society..stop trying to act special. that's not the argument here...the argument is that you people believe the actual leagues are in on it and that is occurs so frequently..you can't keep that kind of shit under wraps..you really think people are that stupid? there would be clear cut evidence out there right now, not just examples here and there(which by the way doesn't prove that the actual league is in on it) you don't know people, people who leak it, if there were games fixed every week, even one a week, it would be leaked. doesnt matter how profitable it might be to not have it exposed, it's more profitable to have it exposed..besides there is always one dumb fuck that wants it exposed just for the hell of it or for fame.you think people can keep their mouth shut? doesnt matter what position they are in.who is fixing these games for the league? the refs? certain coaches or players? all of the above? you think coaches or refs wouldn't have leaked it by now? especially ones that would never undermind the integrity of the game? you know it goes both ways. it's a given that there are corrupt people, but you are also naive if you don't believe that even in today's world, there are people that would be disgusted at the thought of fixing a game and would have no part of it and would go out and expose it or complain. it's just not feasible. too many factors and risk involved for a league to be fixing games every week..come on people, let's not get crazy. this behaviour and mentality is destructive to yourselves. it's a degenerate way of behaving..classic degenerate behavior

ope:

A star of the 1969 Super Bowl, Jim Hudson, a former defensive back with the New York Jets, told me, "My theory always was: If somebody was going to buy me to fall down on a pass play, I would want to know when that son of a bitch was going to pay me. Now, if you're a gambler, would you pay me before the game? No. Would you pay me at halftime? No. You would say you'll pay me after the game. Now, I'm the player, and I'm going to say, 'Do you think I'm going to wait until after the game when I'm never going to see your ass again?' "How are you going to bribe someone? Every bookie in the world is going to know about it. And that line is going to go crazy.

 

[cd329]

You Guys Are Right,games Arent Fixed. I Was Mistaken

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

You Guys Are Right,games Arent Fixed. I Was Mistaken

I never said some games could'nt be fixed. But I sure as hell don't beleive in a leauge wide conspiracy with all those people involved can be kept hush for all these years.

 

[cd329]

PLEASE TELL ME HOW ANYBODY ON THIS PLANET WILL BE ABLE TO PROVE IF A RECIEVER DROPS A BALL ON PURPOSE OR A QB THROWS AN INT ON PURPOSE? Nobody will be able to prove that, so really to keep saying that people would expose it, is just plain wrong.

BUT WE DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF BECAUSE GAMES ARE NOT FIXED

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

PLEASE TELL ME HOW ANYBODY ON THIS PLANET WILL BE ABLE TO PROVE IF A RECIEVER DROPS A BALL ON PURPOSE OR A QB THROWS AN INT ON PURPOSE? Nobody will be able to prove that, so really to keep saying that people would expose it, is just plain wrong.

BUT WE DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF BECAUSE GAMES ARE NOT FIXED

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sumday
if there were games fixed every week, even one a week, it would be leaked. doesnt matter how profitable it might be to not have it exposed, it's more profitable to have it exposed..besides there is always one dumb fuck that wants it exposed just for the hell of it or for fame.you think people can keep their mouth shut? doesnt matter what position they are in.who is fixing these games for the league? the refs? certain coaches or players? all of the above?

you think coaches or refs wouldn't have leaked it by now? especially ones that would never undermind the integrity of the game? you know it goes both ways.

you know it goes both ways. it's a given that there are corrupt people, but you are also naive if you don't believe that even in today's world, there are people that would be disgusted at the thought of fixing a game and would have no part of it and would go out and expose it or complain. it's just not feasible. too many factors and risk involved for a league to be fixing games every week..come on people, let's not get crazy. this behaviour and mentality is destructive to yourselves. it's a degenerate way of behaving..classic degenerate behavior

 

[mamatried]

There is such a thing as being naive, and there is such a thing as being blind to reality. Some examples of obvious fixes:

Super Bowl 3. Jimmy Orr is the primary receiver on the play, and is standing alone flailing his arms in the end zone. Earl Morrall doesn't even look his way.

Super Bowl 23. The Falcons score early fourth quarter to cut the Bronco lead to 15 (before the extra point). Dan Reeves decides to GO FOR 2. If he kicks the extra point or makes the conversion, the game goes over the total and teasers cover. When asked about it after the game he shrugged and gave probably the most insipid answer ever - "I didn't want to have to score three times to win". Needless to say, they missed the conversion when Chris Chandler threw the ball into about the 18th row. Don't think anyone ever bothered to remind Chris that in the NFL the opponent can't return missed extra points for two points.

Super Bowl 40. No explanation necessary. A blind man could see that this one was rigged. EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY CALL went the Steeler's way. You don't even have to watch the whole game. Just watch the first Seattle series where, following a touchback on the opening kickoff, Seahawks fullback Mack Strong clearly crosses the 30 on third down and the referee places the ball just inside the 30, forcing Seattle to punt.

The 2006 playoff game between the Colts and the Patriots, where Reche Caldwell is standing ALL ALONE split wide to the right, and the great Tom Brady, the QB with the best field sense and field vision in the game, doesn't even call for the snap until after a defender moves into position. And then Brady throws it at Caldwell's feet. And the kicker is...THE PLAY WAS CALLED FOR CALDWELL!!!. Two plays later Brady throws an interception and the Colts go to the Super Bowl.

 

[sumday]

PLEASE TELL ME HOW ANYBODY ON THIS PLANET WILL BE ABLE TO PROVE IF A RECIEVER DROPS A BALL ON PURPOSE OR A QB THROWS AN INT ON PURPOSE? Nobody will be able to prove that, so really to keep saying that people would expose it, is just plain wrong.

BUT WE DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF BECAUSE GAMES ARE NOT FIXED

they dont have to prove that the ball was dropped on purpose..they just have to prove that there was intent, that there was some conspiracy, some plan for it..and that can be proven

 

[gmoney72]

No professional ball sports are rigged. Get real people. There are no fixes. Everything is played out on the court or field and the best team wins.

Best Regards,

Tim Donaghy


:missingte

 

[gmoney72]

There is such a thing as being naive, and there is such a thing as being blind to reality. Some examples of obvious fixes:

Super Bowl 3. Jimmy Orr is the primary receiver on the play, and is standing alone flailing his arms in the end zone. Earl Morrall doesn't even look his way.---Well Maybe he just doesn't see him!!??

Super Bowl 23. The Falcons score early fourth quarter to cut the Bronco lead to 15 (before the extra point). Dan Reeves decides to GO FOR 2. If he kicks the extra point or makes the conversion, the game goes over the total and teasers cover. When asked about it after the game he shrugged and gave probably the most insipid answer ever - "I didn't want to have to score three times to win". Needless to say, they missed the conversion when Chris Chandler threw the ball into about the 18th row. Don't think anyone ever bothered to remind Chris that in the NFL the opponent can't return missed extra points for two points.-- Chris Chandler is pretty strong and just underestimated his own strength.

Super Bowl 40. No explanation necessary. A blind man could see that this one was rigged. EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY CALL went the Steeler's way. You don't even have to watch the whole game. Just watch the first Seattle series where, following a touchback on the opening kickoff, Seahawks fullback Mack Strong clearly crosses the 30 on third down and the referee places the ball just inside the 30, forcing Seattle to punt. Some refs do have bad eyesight. I do agree that they should be mandated to have a minimum of 30-30 vision.

The 2006 playoff game between the Colts and the Patriots, where Reche Caldwell is standing ALL ALONE split wide to the right, and the great Tom Brady, the QB with the best field sense and field vision in the game, doesn't even call for the snap until after a defender moves into position. And then Brady throws it at Caldwell's feet. And the kicker is...THE PLAY WAS CALLED FOR CALDWELL!!!. Two plays later Brady throws an interception and the Colts go to the Super Bowl.

--- Brady later said he had to fart and that he paused for a second due to the gas.

 

[Mistermj]

No professional ball sports are rigged. Get real people. There are no fixes. Everything is played out on the court or field and the best team wins.

Best Regards,

Tim Donaghy


:missingte

Whats your point? It was exposed and he was bounced out of the NBA.

There will always be a bad seed in any organization.

This just proves my point...these things get exposed and reported.

 

[sumday]

No professional ball sports are rigged. Get real people. There are no fixes. Everything is played out on the court or field and the best team wins.

Best Regards,

Tim Donaghy


:missingte

you have to pay attention if you are going to comment, otherwise you just come across a dumbass..we arent arguing that this shit happens, a ref doing something for the mob or whoever doesnt prove the whole league is fixed..come on man..at least try

 

[sumday]

Whats your point? It was exposed and he was bounced out of the NBA.

There will always be a bad seed in any organization.

This just proves my point...these things get exposed and reported.

exactly..these people with the wild theories aren't doing too great are they?

 

[mamatried]

Whats your point? It was exposed and he was bounced out of the NBA.

There will always be a bad seed in any organization.

This just proves my point...these things get exposed and reported.

He was the one who got caught. Just answer me one question. Anyone.

How could there not at least have been an investigation after Super Bowl 40? Even though the game was obviously fixed, let's say for argument's sake that all of the refs just had a bad day. In the most important event in which they'll ever be involved.

Wouldn't such overt bias toward one team have raised some kind of red flag? Wouldn't the league have wanted to look into it just to answer the obvious questions that people were asking, and to publicly reveal the results just to dispel all of the rumors?

But no, not a word. Nothing. Zippo. Nada. From the league or their shills in the media, who make millions from the league.

And you know what? If they can get away with something that blatant without the slightest whimper of protest, they can get away with anything.

 

[sumday]

He was the one who got caught. Just answer me one question. Anyone.

How could there not at least have been an investigation after Super Bowl 40? Even though the game was obviously fixed, let's say for argument's sake that all of the refs just had a bad day. In the most important event in which they'll ever be involved.

Wouldn't such overt bias toward one team have raised some kind of red flag? Wouldn't the league have wanted to look into it just to answer the obvious questions that people were asking, and to publicly reveal the results just to dispel all of the rumors?

But no, not a word. Nothing. Zippo. Nada. From the league or their shills in the media, who make millions from the league.

And you know what? If they can get away with something that blatant without the slightest whimper of protest, they can get away with anything.

superbowl 40 was not fixed you yahoo..i watched that game, you don't know football