anyone who thinks the NFL is rigged...

[cd329]

With all due respect...I don't think your argument holds up very well.

There is much money and fame to be made by exposing the corruption.

Prosecutors get promotions....reporters get promotions...players write books ect.

There is just no evidence of any widespread corruption...if it was there...people would be making a buck on exposing it.

are you nuts? Nobodys going to bust the corruption. People would stop going to games if they got exposed. What you need to understand is how the world operates. Everything is based off money and humans will do anything to get it. Also it doesnt matter how much money all these people make,because they always want more and more. Also nobody knows the real reasons guys might throw games. Hell some can be in debt to the mob as just one example.
Let me also now give you one good example of how money no matter how much a person has is never enough. Martha Stewart risked her whole billion dollar{more then athletes make} empire to make an extra 300k on her stocks. No why in the hell would anybody risk a billion dollar fortune to make some chump change? Its because we are never happy with what we have, we always want more.

Lastly getting back to why hasnt the corruption been exposed. The sports industry{not the gambling part} is in the top 5 contributors to our whole economy. If they ever fully exposed the sports industry and said games are fixed on a regular basis, that would have a devasting effect on the economy. So its in the best interests of everybody at the top to make sure it never does get exposed, because people would stop going to games and not spend money on any sports related stuff. Too much money involved.
Why do you think that nba ref scandal got hushed under the table so fast by our govt?
You can call it conspiracy stuff or whatever, but the truth is we live in a very corrupt world and money is at the center of it all. Just look at what the crooks on wallstreet have done to the country? So to sit around believing that for some reason athletes wouldnt be as corrupt, really is just foolish. But hey this is just my opinion.
Good luck:toast:

 

[Loren78]

Except what they're saying is the books and the NFL are part of a conspiracy working together fixing games everyweek.

Its all business....you not making any sense...

 

[sumday]

people that believe in wild conspiracies are so easy to manipulate by letting their own parnoia get the best of them. people always need a reason to explain why they can't win games and have lost money. they need an excuse. you went 2-0 last weekend but we all know you have lost money in the long run, probably a lot, don't even argue that as every degenerate will, you have found a way to try and explain your losses and a reason to keep betting and trying to win..hey it's rigged, that's why i was screwed, now i can start winning some cash cause i am all enlightened..come on man, really...it's tired

 

[cd329]

WTF is going on here. It's as simple as this. We are in a gambling forum. If you "know", or "think" that the NFL is rigged, why the F*CK are you betting on the NFL, let alone any damn sport? Also, if you know which games are "rigged" everyweek, why the F*CK are you in this forum, for you would be in Vegas right now, putting your bets in, and living like a multi-millionaire. This is the stupidest shit going on here.

this is the question i see asked all the time and its the easiest one to answer. Its because you still have a 50-50 chance of landing on the winning side and there isnt really many places you can place a bet and have a 50-50 chance of winning.

Let me ask you a question, everybody knows wallstreet is pretty much rigged, so why do people keep putting their money into the markets?

 

[HighFlyinKilla]

No way most of these thug players from the streets could have kept quiet about this conspiracy all this time.

 

[sumday]

this is the question i see asked all the time and its the easiest one to answer. Its because you still have a 50-50 chance of landing on the winning side and there isnt really many places you can place a bet and have a 50-50 chance of winning.

Let me ask you a question, everybody knows wallstreet is pretty much rigged, so why do people keep putting their money into the markets?

oh you mean calling 2 games rigged and going 2-0? haha..any fool can get lucky and make 2 right calls like that, whether they were called beforehand or not..it doesn't prove a whacky theory.. do that at a very high percentage like 80 percent or more then talk to us with that bs about the league being rigged..i mean if you are pretty sure you can go out and pick games every week that are rigged you should be able to hit 100 percent..but give room for error and you should still hit a very high percentage..talk to me when you have real proof on this theory, not a lucky 2-0 weekend..if you think a theory(especially a wild, far fetched one) is proven in this fashion you really are simple

 

[sumday]

No way most of these thug players from the streets could have kept quiet about this conspiracy all this time.

THANK YOU!!

 

[Loren78]

are you nuts? Nobodys going to bust the corruption. People would stop going to games if they got exposed. What you need to understand is how the world operates. Everything is based off money and humans will do anything to get it. Also it doesnt matter how much money all these people make,because they always want more and more. Also nobody knows the real reasons guys might throw games. Hell some can be in debt to the mob as just one example.
Let me also now give you one good example of how money no matter how much a person has is never enough. Martha Stewart risked her whole billion dollar{more then athletes make} empire to make an extra 300k on her stocks. No why in the hell would anybody risk a billion dollar fortune to make some chump change? Its because we are never happy with what we have, we always want more.

Lastly getting back to why hasnt the corruption been exposed. The sports industry{not the gambling part} is in the top 5 contributors to our whole economy. If they ever fully exposed the sports industry and said games are fixed on a regular basis, that would have a devasting effect on the economy. So its in the best interests of everybody at the top to make sure it never does get exposed, because people would stop going to games and not spend money on any sports related stuff. Too much money involved.
Why do you think that nba ref scandal got hushed under the table so fast by our govt?
You can call it conspiracy stuff or whatever, but the truth is we live in a very corrupt world and money is at the center of it all. Just look at what the crooks on wallstreet have done to the country? So to sit around believing that for some reason athletes wouldnt be as corrupt, really is just foolish. But hey this is just my opinion.
Good luck:toast:

See the funny thing is...all he had to do was follow the links I Provided....or google search for books on the subject....folks been talking for years...but for some reason....these people ain't listening...

Sports replaced religion...people will kill you behind that shyt (See Soccer) just like they used to do with Religion

See...A lot of these Joe Sixpack types are like certain Christians...You criticize the validity of their Religion, and they will punch you in the mouth....Like its theirs to defend....lol

Wilbon straight up called the Kimbo fight fixed...and Lebatard nearly jumped across the screen...Stat Boy was insulted....lmao.....This is how people get their feelings hurt...

The racket ain't yours....Sports wasn't given to the public for your benefit....it don't belong to you...and when the time is right, they will take it from you....in the meantime they will continue to con you until you get it or don't get it....either way the show will continue...

 

[cd329]

very simple - they are the compulsive gambler types who have no discipline or capacity to discern what really matters when looking at a game. these are the long-term losers who have lost so much they'd rather rationalize it as fixed as opposed to quitting gambling. to each their own. these are the kinds of people who are funding the book when i request a payout so it doesnt matter to me what addicted, 'the fix is in' gamblers think. they're the types who cant make sense of a logical point-spread that makes sense to anyone with a clue ... so is has to be fixed in their eyes. they're very ill people who can't understand that a few games not being on the 'up and up' here and there, over a sample of thousands, does not mean a sport is fixed. very myopic people honestly. theyre the kinds of people who have never played a sport in their LIVES so they have no idea just how hard it is to put together elaborate fixes. the kinds of people who understand sports on such a middle-school level that they have no idea the level of competition theyve even betting (or watching). they think its turkey bowl football in their backyard.

one of the worst posts i have ever seen on a messageboard and shows that you are totally clueless about the world you live in. Go right ahead keep living in that fantasyland where everybody is truthful and honest, lollll.
For the record since it appears you know nothing about sports, you only need one ref to call a few game changing penalities to effect the outcome of the game. It only takes one player to drop a few passes. It only takes one qb to throw a few int's to effect a game.
Lastly and let me make this clear just because a fix might be on in a game, that doesnt mean that will happen for sure. Lots of things can happen during the game that could cause the fix to not even happen.
I suggest you learn how the real world operates with all the corruption we have in it.

 

[Loren78]

If you ever played football before you would know all kind of crazy shit can happen during the course of a game. These are humans playing not machines. The talent level in the NFl is actually a lot closer between the teams than the media would lead you to beleive.

You need to pay your respects to James...

 

[sumday]

See the funny thing is...all he had to do was follow the links I Provided....or google search for books on the subject....folks been talking for years...but for some reason....these people ain't listening...

Sports replaced religion...people will kill you behind that shyt (See Soccer) just like they used to do with Religion

See...A lot of these Joe Sixpack types are like certain Christians...You criticize the validity of their Religion, and they will punch you in the mouth....Like its theirs to defend....lol

Wilbon straight up called the Kimbo fight fixed...and Lebatard nearly jumped across the screen...Stat Boy was insulted....lmao.....This is how people get their feelings hurt...

The racket ain't yours....Sports wasn't given to the public for your benefit....it don't belong to you...and when the time is right, they will take it from you....in the meantime they will continue to con you until you get it or don't get it....either way the show will continue...

like i said...prove it, because they are innocent til proven guilty. all you can prove is that a ref here and there has made bad calls on purpose, that players here and there take dives, all of which we are aware..but prove that it happens on a weekly basis and is actually that frequent and the preposterous claim that the NFL today is in on it..you haven't proven anything yet, not even close

 

[Loren78]

oh you mean calling 2 games rigged and going 2-0? haha..any fool can get lucky and make 2 right calls like that, whether they were called beforehand or not..it doesn't prove a whacky theory.. do that at a very high percentage like 80 percent or more then talk to us with that bs about the league being rigged..i mean if you are pretty sure you can go out and pick games every week that are rigged you should be able to hit 100 percent..but give room for error and you should still hit a very high percentage..talk to me when you have real proof on this theory, not a lucky 2-0 weekend..if you think a theory(especially a wild, far fetched one) is proven in this fashion you really are simple

lmao.....Didn't you say you were going to give up on this issue?

 

[sumday]

haha..yeah..but im home and bored..IM BORED!! im going to head out soon and buy some new kicks..just don't want to brave the weather, damn city, already getting cold. i know man, i cant help but comment on this shit..it's a grade school mentality i have, always have to get the last word. comical..but no really, good luck on your plays this weekend people, fixed or not, we all agree that we will continue betting and it will be interesting to see how the games go this weekend...

 

[cd329]

like i said...prove it, because they are innocent til proven guilty. all you can prove is that a ref here and there has made bad calls on purpose, that players here and there take dives, all of which we are aware..but prove that it happens on a weekly basis and is actually that frequent and the preposterous claim that the NFL today is in on it..you haven't proven anything yet, not even close

are you retarded? How the hell are any of us going to prove it happens weekly? I cant believe you would say this and it shows how clueless you are.
The people that could expose this stuff would never do it in a million years, due to the effect it would have on the whole economy.
The nfl is like its own country inside a country, wake up pal.

I am totally amazed at how many people think sports is on the up and up:nohead:

 

[sumday]

are you retarded? How the hell are any of us going to prove it happens weekly? I cant believe you would say this and it shows how clueless you are.
The people that could expose this stuff would never do it in a million years, due to the effect it would have on the whole economy.
The nfl is like its own country inside a country, wake up pal.

I am totally amazed at how many people think sports is on the up and up:nohead:

guys, stop using the little puppy thing..it's gay you homos..and calm down with the retard thing, you can be called a retard for the same crap you are talking about.;really? buddy, if you can't prove it then shut the fuck up...yuo are the one that's retarded, you think you can have these wild conspiracy theories without any proof? my whole point was that you can't fix that many games that you can have 2 or more rigged games a week and not have it get out..can you imagine the mess it would leave behind? it would have gotten out...you wake up...i just woke up..and im hungry..can't decide what to eat..i got my own problems..you just stop acting like you are all enlightened, you are embarrassing yourself..we are all aware of corruption in society, but if we start thinking like you do, that there are so many rigged games and that aliens are around us everyday..well then who's going to run the world..cause you loonies sure won't, you're too busy chasing after wild conspiracies

 

[sumday]

are you retarded? How the hell are any of us going to prove it happens weekly? I cant believe you would say this and it shows how clueless you are.
The people that could expose this stuff would never do it in a million years, due to the effect it would have on the whole economy.
The nfl is like its own country inside a country, wake up pal.

I am totally amazed at how many people think sports is on the up and up:nohead:

the people that do this stuff would never expose this stuff?! are you serious? that shows how clueless YOU are..you don't live in the real world.

 

[prodigy]

one of the worst posts i have ever seen on a messageboard and shows that you are totally clueless about the world you live in. Go right ahead keep living in that fantasyland where everybody is truthful and honest, lollll.
For the record since it appears you know nothing about sports, you only need one ref to call a few game changing penalities to effect the outcome of the game. It only takes one player to drop a few passes. It only takes one qb to throw a few int's to effect a game.
Lastly and let me make this clear just because a fix might be on in a game, that doesnt mean that will happen for sure. Lots of things can happen during the game that could cause the fix to not even happen.
I suggest you learn how the real world operates with all the corruption we have in it.

apparently you were so ready to whip off what you thought was a great response that you somehow overlooked the fact that, uh, i never said anything about being truthful or honest. with anything in life, there will be people here and there trying to cut corners. im sure the guy who waited on you at burger king today is on the up and up, but im sure there are guys at the burger king in wyoming who are pocketing $0.99 without ringing up that guys cheeseburger. thats life. but its not exactly a black eye on the king. you can still sleep easy.

bottom line is compulsive, degenerate gamblers who are long term losers simply rationalize their losses. they are ill people. they dont understand what they are trying to bet on, so they need to do what they can to give them the peace of mind when they go to sleep at night and flip coins during the day.

athletes laugh at the talk-radio types who have never played a down of football or minute of basketball in their lives. similarly, they laugh at people who have no concept of the level at which they compete.

gl.

 

[cd329]

guys, stop using the little puppy thing..it's gay you homos..and calm down with the retard thing, you can be called a retard for the same crap you are talking about.;really? buddy, if you can't prove it then shut the fuck up...yuo are the one that's retarded, you think you can have these wild conspiracy theories without any proof? my whole point was that you can't fix that many games that you can have 2 or more rigged games a week and not have it get out..can you imagine the mess it would leave behind? it would have gotten out...you wake up...i just woke up..and im hungry..can't decide what to eat..i got my own problems..you just stop acting like you are all enlightened, you are embarrassing yourself..we are all aware of corruption in society, but if we start thinking like you do, that there are so many rigged games and that aliens are around us everyday..well then who's going to run the world..cause you loonies sure won't, you're too busy chasing after wild conspiracies

keep living in that make believe world. Someday you will wake up and realize that every aspect of our society is filled with corruption, even in the sports industry. I know you dont want to believe its true because you are in love with these jokers and probably would pay money just to sniff their jockstraps.
As far as leaving a mess behind, you arent to bright. Theres not gonna be any mess behind because whos going to uncover this dirty secret? Me, you or any other fan? Of course not and even if we could nobody would believe us. Dont expect the top people to bust their own money ticket.
Another example of how you are wrong about leaving a mess behind. The nba ref that got busted, didnt get busted because anybody caught onto what he was doing, he got busted by accident. The feds were working on something else and his name got mentioned, which led to him finally getting caught. It wasnt like somebody was watching the games and said hey this ref is cheating. It didnt happen that way and if he didnt get busted by accident he would still be in the nba today reffing games. So please stop thinking a mess will be left behind because thats not true.
Am glad you are so trusting and dont believe in corruption, i wish i could be like that but the truth is i know exactly how corrupt are society is.
Now go take a look at what the crooks have done on wallstreet.:think2:

 

[cd329]

the people that do this stuff would never expose this stuff?! are you serious? that shows how clueless YOU are..you don't live in the real world.

sports industry in the top 5 factors to the economy. if you cant figure out why corruption in sports will never be exposed, then am sorry you truly are clueless about how society works.

 

[sumday]

keep living in that make believe world. Someday you will wake up and realize that every aspect of our society is filled with corruption, even in the sports industry. I know you dont want to believe its true because you are in love with these jokers and probably would pay money just to sniff their jockstraps.
As far as leaving a mess behind, you arent to bright. Theres not gonna be any mess behind because whos going to uncover this dirty secret? Me, you or any other fan? Of course not and even if we could nobody would believe us. Dont expect the top people to bust their own money ticket.
Another example of how you are wrong about leaving a mess behind. The nba ref that got busted, didnt get busted because anybody caught onto what he was doing, he got busted by accident. The feds were working on something else and his name got mentioned, which led to him finally getting caught. It wasnt like somebody was watching the games and said hey this ref is cheating. It didnt happen that way and if he didnt get busted by accident he would still be in the nba today reffing games. So please stop thinking a mess will be left behind because thats not true.
Am glad you are so trusting and dont believe in corruption, i wish i could be like that but the truth is i know exactly how corrupt are society is.
Now go take a look at what the crooks have done on wallstreet.:think2:

dude..you need to learn something about debating...you can't make up shit and you can't misquote people..don't you read? i said i DO believe in corruption. why do you act so enlightened when we all believe in corruption and know about it. how do we live in a dream world? this just goes to show what kind of people believe in these theories..not very bright people. i just gave a whole paragraph or two to you that we all do believe in corruption and are aware of it. we just will NOT believe that it is so frequent that there are games every week that are rigged, give me a break. yes, that ref got caught, because he was the culprit..NOT the league, you get it? you are helping me prove my point with your own words it's hilarious. if the league was in on it they would have been found out. but this was just one ref ,working his own agenda on his own or with mobsters, not with the league itself..gimme a break..you arguments are weak weak weak