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Scotty,how about all the scams that were pulled on the horse racing side when I started in the buisness I was on the race side hand writing tickets,I knew writers who spent there entire shift trying to figure a way to screw the book,remember when they set the clocks back a few minutes at the Santa Anita
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Anyone remember boxing referee Joey Curtis? He also owned a construction company with offices on Highland. Sometime in the early 80's I was dating a secretary from the construction company, she aslo dealt Black Jack at the Shoe, sharp chick and typical hip Vegas broad. Anyway, I take her out on her lunch hour over to The Jolley Cholly acr oss from the Sahara, if anyone remembers the joint, they had these giant cheesburgers for a buck. Well we eat, and I say hang with me while I play some craps. Shes cool with that, but says Curtis is strict about being back on time. I tell her don't worry I am going to play a cecil and thats it. Natrually I run into a hand (2nd one in this thread) this one was'nt an all time show stopper, but decent, and it took some time before the shooter finally sevened out. I cash in about a dime, and give the chick half, she would thank me big time later that night. We get back to her job about 10 minutes late, where I drop her off, later I get a phone call, she says Joey Curtis fired her. Not the end of the world, but just shows what kind of ass this guy was. I mean a craps hand is a very good excuse to be late in Vegas for anyone. A few weeks pass, the girl just picks up more shifts at the shoe, in fact sometime she used to work the Big 6, the one facing the street, where she was almost on the sidewalk downtown. So one night I am driving down Flamingo real late, and I see a guy standing aside his Caddy with a blowout, I pull over and notice who it was, thats right, Joey friggin Curtis crying about no spare. Needless to say he had to wait for the next good samaritan to get his tire changed. Pay backs are a bitch sometime. True story.

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Who would you say has been the strongest guy in Vegas since Bugsy? If he's still living, I understand if you you just say that.
 

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mvbski- Foxy's Firehouse Casino was on the corner of LV Blvd and Sahara. The joint was a dive but they had really good hot dogs and some bad betting lines. Always a nice combination. LOL. You could go in there just about anytime and find a line a point or two different from anywhere else and a hockey line ten to twenty cents off from other books. Their limits were low but it was always worth a trip in their if you were number shopping.


wil- The Port Tack was a good restaurant when Bob and Judy owned it. They had the best brown bread I've ever had. It was always a place to go for a good meal and a nice atmosphere.

I had some wonderful meals at the Golden Steer with the late Bob Martin and his many friends and fellow gamblers. His son and I were the best of friends and Bob often invited me to dinner with him, his son and some of the sharpest bettors and bookmakers I have ever had the pleasure to share a meal with. Bob Martin was one of the classiest, nicest people I have ever met. I would just sit and listen as Bob and his friends would talk betting and booking and I just tried to take in what those guys knew about those topics and life in general. Of course, it was always fun to look around the Golden Steer and see some of Las Vegas's most important people having dinner with their "nieces".
 

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Joey Curtis, ex-fighter and a one-eyed referee. Got in trouble with the IRS.

Silver Slipper was a great fight joint. A few future stars started there in four round club fights. Could barely see the ring from all the smoke by the time the later fights rolled around.

Golden Steer had potatoes the size of watermelons. Friggin' mutations!! Haven't been there for a long time.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mvbski:
Just about every bookmaker spent time at the Tap House they also had a pretty good softball team to made up of people in the buisness<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Spent many a night in this joint.

Personally, dont really like it all that well.

Just went there to hang with the other bookies like you said.

Hey, speaking of that area, great burgers at KILROYS BAR west of the TAP HOUSE about 2-3 miles. BIG AND JUICY.
 

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When I was a a young pup. I used to make kamakazi drives to Vegas from L.A. to bet at Little Caesars. There and back in 6' hours. I remember you could get free ice cream sandwiches.

When you used to hangout there Fishead, did you remember a young kid in a Neon green Corona baseball cap coming in on Saturday mornings? It was I. An older guy started calling me the Cat in the Hat. Learned a lot there from the regulars. One thing that had a huge impact on me was watching another young guy start crying uncontrollably when he lost a bet. He was sitting next to me and was making quite a spectacle of himself.
I asked him how much he had lost and he told me $25 dollars! It was his last $25 dollars though. I knew then that Gambling was something to be feared, respected and managed. I never wanted to be were he was at.
 

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Soccer Bob - The last time I was in the Golden Steer, Dick Bryan was in the place. I had recently got married (post Jockey club days) and he comes over and says hello to my new wife, she introduced us of course, maybe a 60 second conversation ensues. He leaves, and I say how do you know him? She cooly replies, not very well, except he was my lawyer for my divorce three years ago. Opps.


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mvsbk, the old Simplex timestamps, easy to beat. Simply pull the plug for 5 min. The GCB made us hard wire them so now a clerk could pull the fuse for a few minutes, so they made us lock them. You could get into them with the key so they made us get a key control system which was really useless. Some clerks would tear off a ticket, stamp it before post, and set it back in the machine but then they couldn't write any tickets till the race was off. Now simply fill in the winners. I know you're already way ahead of me here but this is for those who came after we went to computers.....Scottys

I let the clerks scam a double saw or so every now and then. After that I let them know if they got greedy. Then of course I had to let a few go.

Same with players. Some were like they were on our payroll.
It would go like this:"That stupid writer gave me the wrong horse".
me: "Really"
shortstop: "yea, look here (out comes a beat up racing form) see I even had the winner circled".
me. "Damn you got bad luck, how much you got comming"?
shortstop: $18.60
me: "I'll pay you this time but go to a different wrtier".
shortstop then proceeds to the cashier, I sign it OK, shortstop takes money and goes directly to betting windows and gives it right back.....ScottyS
 

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Lou, my honest answer is the strongest people were not located here but they controlled a whole lot.....ScottyS
 

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soccerbob, you're fortunate. I know three seats were filled with Erik, Pgh Jack, Blackie, who else?
 

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wilheim, ever eat the burgers at White C**** Drugs on the Strip/Charleston? What about
the Burger Hut when FM owned it?
 

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Scotty, nothing wrong with your keyboard, the word c r o s s is blocked on this forum. I may have been in the White Cro ss a few times but don't recall anything about the place. The Burger Hut same thing. I liked the Tillerman on E. Sahara at times. The Steak house in the Circus Circus. And Vince's Steak House in Henderson (or Boulder City??) holds fond memories, I am not sure if it is still open. I proposed to my ex-wife in Vince's a long time ago.

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I used to attend what we called 'the bookmakers Mass' 6:30am on Sundays at Our Lady of Las Vegas. Jasper, Gus The Goose, Larry Krantz and other assorted layers & players were regulars. Early & quick so we could be at the store in plenty of time for Sundays biz. After Mass we would meet out front & lie to each other about Saturdays business. Jasper took care of the flowers around the church grounds. He had a flower shop in his later years. Square business, like in the movies.....ScottyS
 

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Scott - Our Lady of Las Vegas - is that the church behind where The Flame used to be?


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