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How were you right???
Is Saddam dead???
Where are the WMD???
Is Iraq in caos???
They're being occupied by a foreign military so are they free???
Does the Arab community hate us more than ever???
Is this costing a fortune???

Oh well I guess well be able to snag some oil though.
 
victory was swift with fewer casualities than G1. saddams days are number, if he's not already dead. give me a break.
 
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the fact that even YOU used "if" here admits your mistake. He might not be dead. In fact, assuming that he's dead is as great a mistake as assuming it was Saddam who flew the plane into the north tower...that somehow, out of the impossibility of it, Iraq was behind this mess.
 

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Again, winning a fight that shouldn't have happened does not make it right, no matter how fast you win.

No WMD have turned up, so the "spin" is it's about Iraqi freedom, they used forged proof and lies to make this happen. It becomes more and more clear that there were alterior motives. So if anything as this develops you become more and more wrong.
 

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Fine, you do agree Clinton was a disaster.

Disaster? No I don't agree with that. I didn't vote for him. I voted for Perot and Dole, but I don't think Clinton was any worse than most other Presidents.

I do think he was liar and had a problem keeping his dick in his pants. That affected his ability as a President.

Ashcroft & Bush concern me more than Clinton ever did. I don’t think Bush and Ashcroft understand the constitution. Religious fanatics like Ashcroft scare me quite a bit. Frankly, I think Ashcroft is almost as bad as Osama Bin Laden when it comes to religious fanaticism.

The ultra-religious arm of the GOP keeps me from declaring myself a conservative.
 

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Clinton a disaster?

While he was far from perfect I don't think an economic surplus and Northern Ireland being returned to it's rightful owner can be called a disaster.

A lot of people here cheer Bush2 for "giving Iraqis freedom", Clinton didn't have to start a war to straighten Ireland out. Also the good that Clinton did for our image internationally over 8 years has been erased and back tracked by Bush in a couple of years.
 
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clinton's problem is that he too thought much about his love rocket. Bush's thoughts are rockets!

Which scares you more? (Rhetorical)
 
that clintoon giving the NKs 6 billion, fuel and LWRs is a disaster nothing is

Wake up fellas.
 
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as long as you admit that there were republican presidents that gave money to both bin laden and saddam...

By the way, I have no problem admitting that a US president helped a murdered. This has been my point all along.

And clinton was far from a "leftest" (sic)
 
At the time it was the right thing to do. Does Iran and the USSR ring a bell.

Clintoon had no such reason for proping NK up.

Very different situations.

We've fought many countries that are now considered friends or so-called friends, does japan, UK and cananda ring a bell. no country can read the future.
 

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You say we have to admit Clinton was a disaster, if that is so, then you have to admit the Reagan was an even greater disaster.
 
kaya,
I'll admit Reagan was one of Americas greatest presidents. Not even the leftest of left like to discuss the horrors of Jimmy Carter. Reagan pulled us out of those miserable times. Do you recall Reagan winning the cold war? I'm not sure where you were then. Do you smoke dope or what?
 

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"I'll admit Reagan was one of Americas greatest presidents."

It's unreal that people still make this statement.

Where was I during the Reagan period?, middle class small town America.

Ok here's your great president.
While cutting funding for public education, social security pensions, and guaranteed student loans, he still managed to spend enough on the cold war to take us from world's largest crediter to world's largest debter nation. And that cold war thing any way, I mean come on, I still remember social studies classes, "at this point we can destroy the earth 127 times while Russian can only destroy the earth 54 times". Hello, if you can destroy the entire earth several times over why the phuck are you still spending money on more bombs.

Now let's look at his criminal activity. He ran the most corrupt administration in our history, more indictments in his administration than even Nixon's. He used drug money to buy weapons from Iran to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua that he hid from the American public (and conservs talk about Clinton lying about a blow job, give me a break). That perpetuated the civil war in Nicaragua for several more years, destroying the infrastructure of the country leaving thousands maimed or dead but no aid was ever provided to rebuild. Nicaragua still suffers the consequences of Reagan even today. Aside from that, all the lies never even came to the American public's attention. For example, I certainly don't remember anything ever coming out about the secret military bases and landing strips that were built in the jungles of Costa Rica.

Yeah I see what you mean he was a great guy.
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reagan didn't win the cold war...gorby pushed it along with Glastnost, Perestroika..etc...etc.

As for when the USSR fell, that was during BUSH I.
But even this disregards the fact that a presidency is so much more than the president in office.
 
You leftest think things just happen. I guess in 20 years when the liberals rewrite history you'll say Chirac got rid of Saddam because he was ready to veto the security council resolution and Bush was forced to act. The facts mean nothing to you. Atleast you haven't tried to say Carter won the cold war.
 

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"The facts mean nothing to you. Atleast you haven't tried to say Carter won the cold war."

What I said about Reagan is fact and you deny it.

What are you talking about? Were you asleep during the Iran/Contra affair or something?
 
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Using this term, looney left, only makes you sound even more like an idiot.

You can't even use an intelligent term, you have to borrow something from Warner Bros....lol.

How about the "self-righteous right"?

Bush won the cold war, not reagan.
 

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