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I don't know about 40+ .. But, in all honesty , I can see in say 3 years , Lebron averaging a triple double for the season. He has the type of body frame to get the boards if need be and he has one of the best court vision of any player Ive ever seen. Imagine if he played with two other scorers , He could realisticly average 12+ assists a game, or close to 10 with just one other scorer. His numbers are only going to get better .. This was a huge stepping stone game for him. And he STEPPED UP , and now he knows he can and as he matures , we are going to see games like last nights being the norm. Dunks that make you drop your jaw wide open and fallaway jumpers that make you jump up and say Wow @!! And guess what ,I have feeling his FT % will improve. He's a perfectionist on the court and at only 22 an uncanny ability to lead. Did you see James in those huddles barking out orders .. but positively. It always seems that Kobe likes to subtly blame others for his failures. He doesnt say it, but his body language shows it on the court. And now with his recent whining act in the media .. its quite obvious thats his game. And while Kobe is an amazing scorer and defender , he's selfish. Its all about Kobe Bryant , Fuck the lakers , fukk the coach , fukk the owner , fukk my teamates , give the rock and let me shoot ... Yea Kobe has 3 titles , and won them at an young age that is a fact. But he was blessed to come into an Organization that had Shaquille Oneal in his prime playing for them.Similar to Magic coming to the Lakers with Kareem dominating down low. ( Course Magic wasnt selfish ..) The games biggest star was Kobes piggyback ride to the titles. And he's great , dont get me wrong, but that was SHAQS team. And when Shaq left , Kobe didnt do shit. We saw what Shaq did without Kobe..and people will say , Well Shaq had Wade. Wade was Oneals Bryant. Regardless , I have such a high opinion of James , and why ?? Cause he brought fun and excitement back to game .. the same type of fun and excitement Michael brought , Magic brought , and Larry Brought .. By the time James career is over , Mark my words James will be mentioned in the same breath if not above those talented three.
Unless the Cavs get help, Lebron will be mentioned in the same breath as Charles Barkley and Karl Malone....players without rings...
They have at least 10 years to find a suitable sidekick, I gotta believe it will happen. Especially since the guy is as unselfish a superstar on the court since Magic.
For anyone who says Lebron hasnt proven anything yet, or that it was just ONE game...
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in their rookie season.
Includes Oscar Robertson and Michael Jordan.
One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.
Includes Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson, and John Havlicek.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.
Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.
Includes Magic Johnson and Johnny McCarthy.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for three consecutive seasons.
Includes Oscar Robertson.
2nd place all-time on consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19.
Behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 27 consecutive games
Only player in NBA history to score 25 straight points in a playoff game.
Youngest player to record a triple-double (20 years, 20 days).
Youngest player to score 40 points in a game (19 years).
Youngest player to score 50 points in a game (20 years, 80 days)
Youngest player to score 2000 points in a season (2004-05 season).
Youngest player to average 30 points per game in a season (2005-06 season).
Youngest player to reach:
1,000 points
2,000 points
3,000 points
4,000 points
5,000 points
6,000 points
7,000 points
8,000 points
Youngest player to win an All-Star Game MVP (21 years, 51 days)
Youngest player to be named to the All-NBA first team (21 years, 138 days)
Youngest player to lead the league in All-Star voting (22 years, 26 days)
Youngest player to score atleast 20 straight points in a game
Cavaliers Franchise Records
Points
Game: 56 (March 20, 2005 vs. Toronto Raptors).
Game, playoffs: 48 (May 31, 2007 vs. Detroit Pistons).
Half, playoffs: 25 (1st half, April 30, 2006 vs. Washington Wizards)
Quarter: 21 (4th quarter, April 5, 2006 vs. New York Knicks).
Quarter, playoffs: 18 (1st quarter, April 30, 2006 vs. Washington Wizards).
Season: 2,478 (2005-06)
Scoring average, all-time: 26.5
Scoring average, month: 32.9 (April 2006)
Consecutive games scoring at least 35 points: 9 (March 22–April 8, 2006)
Consecutive Points: 25 (May 31, 2007 vs. Detroit Pistons)
Field goals made
Game: 19 (3 times, most recently April 5, 2006 vs. New York Knicks)
Now, I dont know about anyone else, but for me, thats a pretty BOMB career. 19 NBA Records, 11 Cavs Franchise Records, 6 milestons (included on a list with 5 top 50 NBA players of all-time).
Oh yeah, he did all of that in only 4 years. So for anyone who says 1 game doesn't determine a career, these are all some pretty impressive things that determine a great career.
One of three players in NBA history to average at least 20 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in their rookie season.
Includes Oscar Robertson and Michael Jordan.
One of five players in NBA history to average over 25 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists in a season.
Includes Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Oscar Robertson, and John Havlicek.
One of four players in NBA history to average at least 31 points, 7 rebounds and 6 assists in a season.
Includes Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Michael Jordan.
One of three players in NBA history to record a triple-double in their playoff debut.
Includes Magic Johnson and Johnny McCarthy.
One of two players in NBA history to average at least 27 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists for three consecutive seasons.
Includes Oscar Robertson.
2nd place all-time on consecutive 20-point games to start a playoff career with 19.
Behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's 27 consecutive games
Only player in NBA history to score 25 straight points in a playoff game.
Youngest player to record a triple-double (20 years, 20 days).
Youngest player to score 40 points in a game (19 years).
Youngest player to score 50 points in a game (20 years, 80 days)
Youngest player to score 2000 points in a season (2004-05 season).
Youngest player to average 30 points per game in a season (2005-06 season).
Youngest player to reach:
1,000 points
2,000 points
3,000 points
4,000 points
5,000 points
6,000 points
7,000 points
8,000 points
Youngest player to win an All-Star Game MVP (21 years, 51 days)
Youngest player to be named to the All-NBA first team (21 years, 138 days)
Youngest player to lead the league in All-Star voting (22 years, 26 days)
Youngest player to score atleast 20 straight points in a game
Cavaliers Franchise Records
Points
Game: 56 (March 20, 2005 vs. Toronto Raptors).
Game, playoffs: 48 (May 31, 2007 vs. Detroit Pistons).
Half, playoffs: 25 (1st half, April 30, 2006 vs. Washington Wizards)
Quarter: 21 (4th quarter, April 5, 2006 vs. New York Knicks).
Quarter, playoffs: 18 (1st quarter, April 30, 2006 vs. Washington Wizards).
Season: 2,478 (2005-06)
Scoring average, all-time: 26.5
Scoring average, month: 32.9 (April 2006)
Consecutive games scoring at least 35 points: 9 (March 22–April 8, 2006)
Consecutive Points: 25 (May 31, 2007 vs. Detroit Pistons)
Field goals made
Game: 19 (3 times, most recently April 5, 2006 vs. New York Knicks)
Now, I dont know about anyone else, but for me, thats a pretty BOMB career. 19 NBA Records, 11 Cavs Franchise Records, 6 milestons (included on a list with 5 top 50 NBA players of all-time).
Oh yeah, he did all of that in only 4 years. So for anyone who says 1 game doesn't determine a career, these are all some pretty impressive things that determine a great career.
If Ray Allen weren't so stupid and came to Cleveland as a FA last season, they would be breaking down tape of SA right now. Lebron will never play with talent like Kareem, or Parish, McHale, or Pipp. However, you get this guy a halfway decent outside shooter and it is over. Steve Kerr would avg. 21 with LBJ. Park his ass outside the 3 point line and just shoot or watch LBJ slam another one down.
Get Lebron a real threat. I mean someone who the defense would respect and not collapse of all the time and it is over. If Chauncey leaves Det for CLE next season, watch out. The Cavs are comprised of guys who are only the league because the NBA expanded to 30 teams.
Get Lebron a real threat. I mean someone who the defense would respect and not collapse of all the time and it is over. If Chauncey leaves Det for CLE next season, watch out. The Cavs are comprised of guys who are only the league because the NBA expanded to 30 teams.
The most amazing individual game performance I have ever seen. Unfortunately he will have to be even better to score half as many points tonight. There is no way that Flip and the Pistons will let him repeat that performance. He will be double and triple teamed for the whole game. If Cleveland is to win the rest of the team will have to step up and make shots as I think the Detroit mindset will be "LeBron is not going to beat us. We will live with it if someone else beats us but not LeBron".
EH , Hell of a laundry list of achiements there ... Hell most guys would be happy if they had that to show for their whole careers , let alone only 4. And the best part is , barring a catashprophe , we have another 10-15 years to watch him ... I was 10 years Old when Jordan hit the game winner for the NCAA tourney ... And followed Jordans career with enthusiasm and luster. He never let me down once ,and now I am fully committed to do the same for Lebron.
Yea , well dipshit you opened the thread, didn't you ?? And by your worthless post I can tell you are a miserable lonely peice of trash. A person who enjoys putting down others to make their own unexciting life seem more worthwhile. This is a sportsbetting site , so what do we discuss here ? Betting and Sports ... and the players that play them. Maybe you can't remember what you learned past the 5th grade , but some of us here are stat buffs and these types of discussions are intriguing and stimulating ... so go piss in somebodies pourage Scrooge.
No you just grow up and some people don't.
It's really sad to live your life through others, but that's what the world has become. I don't have the problem anymore. If you do then I'm sorry for you. Really am!
I watched the greatest players of all time. Todays players are not even close to them. In any sport!
Todays games are boring! There's more to life than watching slobs play a game!
And I watch enough games to out pick any of you people and I don't have to make them my hero's like you guys do. That's sad!
It's really sad to live your life through others, but that's what the world has become. I don't have the problem anymore. If you do then I'm sorry for you. Really am!
I watched the greatest players of all time. Todays players are not even close to them. In any sport!
Todays games are boring! There's more to life than watching slobs play a game!
And I watch enough games to out pick any of you people and I don't have to make them my hero's like you guys do. That's sad!
Lebron is no Jordan and never will be.
Jordan is highly intelligent. Graduated college. Today's athletes are uneducated thugs. I am 26 with this perspective, not an old fart.
You could also depend on Jordan to ALWAYS make the shot when it counted. You know if he had the ball there was a good chance it was going through the hoop.
I can't understand how people compare kobe, and lebron to Jordan. Neither of them will ever be a Jordan. Heck no one can even come close and maybe never will.
Jordan is highly intelligent. Graduated college. Today's athletes are uneducated thugs. I am 26 with this perspective, not an old fart.
You could also depend on Jordan to ALWAYS make the shot when it counted. You know if he had the ball there was a good chance it was going through the hoop.
I can't understand how people compare kobe, and lebron to Jordan. Neither of them will ever be a Jordan. Heck no one can even come close and maybe never will.
First of all , Jordan got his degree in Geography ... Yea , I can name all 50 states too ... Its not like it was astro physics ...or Rocket science ...
2nd of all , it took Jordan three years to beat the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons of his day ... , so he didnt "ALWAYS" make the shot...
You to me sound like the typical , bandwagon Jordan Jumper of the early 90's ...Guys that suddenly followed his whole career and loved him , conviently after he won his first title , and from your idiot quote that Jordan always made the shot when it counted , shows me you only watched him when he did make the shots that counted ... ( which he did ) but he also struggled for 6 years in the league before he won anything ...His Bulls team got knocked out of the first round of the playoffs each time for his first 3 years in the league ( were his shots ALWAYS going down then too ? ) Course you wouldnt know , because I doubt you've watched any Bulls games other then when they were in the Championship , but don't feel bad ... every other 26 year old I know , has the exact same M.O. ... a fukking leech , sucking onto the best ... Jordan. But for you , undeservedly so .... Jordan is my favorite player , he is the best and the greatest ever , but he didnt instantly dominate in the playoffs. Even when he set the NBA record for points in his 2nd year. People forget , His team was SWEPT that series , he struggled and payed his dues and took his setbacks , just like everybody else ... He had to work hard to accomplish his goals , and he did ... But nothing came easy , he didnt ALWAYS make his shots ... If he did , he would have won 12 titles instead of six ... But you wouldnt know that , cause you only watched , and rooted for Jordan after he won ... and now your a "big fan".... yea , right ... your a fukking fraud ... and a wannabe
