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Was/Am I involved? Yes

Do I owe anyone here an explanation? No.

I'm not hiding from anything here. Everyone has different financial situations. To some people, losing $750 or $2000 can be intolerable. To some people its just a glich. I'm not sure what else to say, except I'm a big boy, and there are risks in any "tout" venture.
I dont think thats what people are getting at. Everyone understands we are all "big boys" around here.The amount of money lost makes no difference big or small. The problem is Mogely came here claiming he was one thing, got exposed as being something completely different and disappeared. At this point its more of a public service announcement the guy is a scam.
 

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I really would like to hear what NFLtrends has to say about it. Did he not say he was in the works with Mogley helping him get his man cave fired up? Believe he also said he proxied for him as well. He made it sound like it was all legit. Does he come on here much? He may be able to shed some light on the situation.
 

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I really would like to hear what NFLtrends has to say about it. Did he not say he was in the works with Mogley helping him get his man cave fired up? Believe he also said he proxied for him as well. He made it sound like it was all legit. Does he come on here much? He may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I feel like there are a few posters who "spoke" up for him that are for sure reading this thread but remain silent because of what it has become.
 

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I think this has been a great education for some.

and can probably be done at Any level, but nice when you have a larger bankroll to start.

I replied to this when it was posted and asked what is the education?

Guess we have our answer. Don’t fall for scam artists that crush small samples.
 

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I replied to this when it was posted and asked what is the education?

Guess we have our answer. Don’t fall for scam artists that crush small samples.
I questioned the scheme myself and got called out for it by a poster that refuses to talk about it now. Like I said they kiss ass when you post winners but go silent when they get exposed.
 

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After thinking about this for a few days my opinion has changed slightly.


At first I was like how in the heck did the mods allow this ?

Dozens and dozens of TOS rules on this site we’re being broken in this thread .

Yet nothing was being done .

But then I got to thinking about the society we live in where people constantly point the finger at each other when things dont go their way.

Sometimes in life you have to take personal responsibility .

Sometimes you need to look into a mirror and take ownership .

When he offered this deal on the forum I admit I was tempted .

Who wouldn’t be tempted to bet someone’s plays and if they lose give you back all your money .

I wasn’t the least bit impressed with his capping or picks.
But I will bet anyone’s plays (even Justin Cruise forum locks) if I had someone to pay me back 100% if they lose.


Sometimes the old saying “if it sounds too good to be true” it normally is applies.


So I did not partake .


So instead of blaming the mods that did not enforce the TOS of this site the ultimate responsibility falls on the the idiots who fell for this scam .

Im really tired of idiots being idiots in life then expecting someone else to take the blame or fall for their idiot actions.


If I would have owned this site this thread would have never made it past page 10 but that’s besides the point .

At the end of the day these posters trusted this clown that they never met with their money .

Look in the mirror fools .
You are the idiot .


And MOG go get professional help.
 

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I dont think thats what people are getting at. Everyone understands we are all "big boys" around here.The amount of money lost makes no difference big or small. The problem is Mogely came here claiming he was one thing, got exposed as being something completely different and disappeared. At this point its more of a public service announcement the guy is a scam.

Not all are big boys.

Some are lobbying for a video game forum.
 
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After thinking about this for a few days my opinion has changed slightly.


At first I was like how in the heck did the mods allow this ?

Dozens and dozens of TOS rules on this site we’re being broken in this thread .

Yet nothing was being done .

But then I got to thinking about the society we live in where people constantly point the finger at each other when things dont go their way.

Sometimes in life you have to take personal responsibility .

Sometimes you need to look into a mirror and take ownership .

When he offered this deal on the forum I admit I was tempted .

Who wouldn’t be tempted to bet someone’s plays and if they lose give you back all your money .

I wasn’t the least bit impressed with his capping or picks.
But I will bet anyone’s plays (even Justin Cruise forum locks) if I had someone to pay me back 100% if they lose.


Sometimes the old saying “if it sounds too good to be true” it normally is applies.


So I did not partake .


So instead of blaming the mods that did not enforce the TOS of this site the ultimate responsibility falls on the the idiots who fell for this scam .

Im really tired of idiots being idiots in life then expecting someone else to take the blame or fall for their idiot actions.


If I would have owned this site this thread would have never made it past page 10 but that’s besides the point .

At the end of the day these posters trusted this clown that they never met with their money .

Look in the mirror fools .
You are the idiot .


And MOG go get professional help.

I feel as if I should have a problem with your post, but I'll pass on that.

First, you can't find one place where I blame a Mod. I believe you are taking what one poster in here is saying and lumping it into my story saying Mogley stiffs people and gave my story/issue.

By the way, you forgot to double space a couple of your lines.
 
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Page 28 the Standard RX Warning was posted, this because it became clear what he was doing

and again the thread was moved Twice, and not by his request, by Mine
 
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Page 28 the Standard RX Warning was posted, this because it became clear what he was doing

and again the thread was moved Twice, and not by his request, by Mine

I don't think any mod is at fault for this. Being the guy that is owed money in this thread, I feel as if I should say that to clear this up.

I like to help people out, I feel as if good things happen when you do good things for good people. I have been burned before and will probably be burned again. However, if you make sure it isn't something you can't do without, it doesn't hurt to bad if burned. The $750 obviously is life changing Money for Mogley and if he can't pay, he can't pay. But I think I owed this forum the story and half way feel bad for not speaking up sooner. It appears though that he's paying his "clients", maybe he took offense to be refusing to be part of that.
 

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One guy said he was owed $750. If no one else has come forward why do we all think there are other people who got stiffed? Is there more going on behind the scenes then what’s been said? Also, isn’t it weird there hasn’t been any recent good stories posted on this? Just seems like people directly involved would be saying something by now.
 

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I questioned the scheme myself and got called out for it by a poster that refuses to talk about it now. Like I said they kiss ass when you post winners but go silent when they get exposed.

A few people asked me about it via PM when he made his offer. I told them he definitely wasn’t a winning player based on the info the thread. When you tell people that you buy pts off every number in Football because it makes watching the game more “comfortable” for you, then that is a bit of a tell.

However I said the arrangement will work if he has outside sources of money that could make the venture sustainable. If he hit a big score or was a trust fund kid but it now looks like that isn’t quite the case.

And you are correct, a lot of cheerleading for him in the early part of this thread when it was obvious to anyone with a clue he wasn’t a winning player.
 

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One guy said he was owed $750. If no one else has come forward why do we all think there are other people who got stiffed? Is there more going on behind the scenes then what’s been said? Also, isn’t it weird there hasn’t been any recent good stories posted on this? Just seems like people directly involved would be saying something by now.
Do you know him?
 

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I’ve lurked on here for over 10 years. Had a username at one point years ago but forgot the login info so made a new one. I’m not trying to be mysterious but I’d prefer to wait on telling my story. I think it’s obvious he wasn’t as advertised and am surprised this took so long to be said. To anyone questioning Razorbacks, I’m certain his account of the story is accurate.
 

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I don't think any mod is at fault for this. Being the guy that is owed money in this thread, I feel as if I should say that to clear this up.

I like to help people out, I feel as if good things happen when you do good things for good people. I have been burned before and will probably be burned again. However, if you make sure it isn't something you can't do without, it doesn't hurt to bad if burned. The $750 obviously is life changing Money for Mogley and if he can't pay, he can't pay. But I think I owed this forum the story and half way feel bad for not speaking up sooner. It appears though that he's paying his "clients", maybe he took offense to be refusing to be part of that.


Do you know his real name?
 

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Spoke to Mogley this morning. I asked him some pretty honest, straightforward questions and he was dodging pretty hard. He was very defensive and angry, and has no intents on coming back here.

Said this earlier in the thread: When he said stuff like "x person called me the best in the business", that in itself was a tell that this guy was full of shit.

He's probably a good bettor/capper, but no one you should get involved with.
 

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When he posted the comment below in the financial forum in 2017 it made me laugh. I posted interested as a gag but was surprised some people actually thought it was a real deal.

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One guy said he was owed $750. If no one else has come forward why do we all think there are other people who got stiffed? Is there more going on behind the scenes then what’s been said? Also, isn’t it weird there hasn’t been any recent good stories posted on this? Just seems like people directly involved would be saying something by now.

There were dozens getting in on this, some are guys that are regulars here, and not one of them has come in here to say it isn't the case. That speaks volumes to me. I'm open minded, and am waiting for exactly that, and it seems like it's not gonna happen, or it would have happened by now. I too was asked to get in on this, but declined in a respectful way. Was also asked by a poster here in a text, that I'm friends with, and hope he didn't get taken. I'm still open to this maybe not being a scam, but it sure seems to be the case. At the very least there was some very bad money management going on here from the get go, which was a turn off for me.
 

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Spoke to Mogley this morning. I asked him some pretty honest, straightforward questions and he was dodging pretty hard. He was very defensive and angry, and has no intents on coming back here.

Said this earlier in the thread: When he said stuff like "x person called me the best in the business", that in itself was a tell that this guy was full of shit.

He's probably a good bettor/capper, but no one you should get involved with.

Defensive and angry about what? Not paying posters that he owes money to?

Who gives a shit if he comes back here? He just needs to pay people that he owes money to and then go crawl in a hole somewhere and spend some time reflecting on what type of person he wants to be.
 

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