Hope you get paid. You did him a solid just by placing them, and on credit makes it an even bigger solid.
Hope you get paid. You did him a solid just by placing them, and on credit makes it an even bigger solid.
People keep bringing up NFLTrends name and I am not sure why. If you go back in the thread Mogley even said NFLTrends said he was crazy for doing this and his betting style.
I could be way off here I'm sure this Mogloy guy has some coin and seen Trends success and wanted in on some of his advice/action. NFLTrends seems like a solid guy probably got some kind of kickback for the advice etc. Or if anything got in on the MANCAVE business.
Like with any business venture, gambling move, DECISION in life. Everyone needs to make calculated decisions and is responsible for his/her decisions. I'm sure Mogley is probably a solid guy and had people hitting him up left and right from the forums wanting a piece of the pie. Mogley probably bit off more then he could chew gambling with multiple gamblers money with the gamblers not used to the high chase amounts/ML amounts needed to catch up with a bad beats. Way too much going on = recipe for disaster
I could be way off here I'm sure this Mogloy guy has some coin and seen Trends success and wanted in on some of his advice/action. NFLTrends seems like a solid guy probably got some kind of kickback for the advice etc. Or if anything got in on the MANCAVE business.
Like with any business venture, gambling move, DECISION in life. Everyone needs to make calculated decisions and is responsible for his/her decisions. I'm sure Mogley is probably a solid guy and had people hitting him up left and right from the forums wanting a piece of the pie. Mogley probably bit off more then he could chew gambling with multiple gamblers money with the gamblers not used to the high chase amounts/ML amounts needed to catch up with a bad beats. Way too much going on = recipe for disaster
People aren't tying NFLTrends to Mog at all, obviously he isn't responsible for any of this. He's just a respected poster on the site and it is known that him/Mog have both acknowledged they will be starting a retail business establishment together so people were hoping he could shed light on Mog's ability to pay back money that he owes to posters (apparently several posters at this point)
As Patsfan just said I am curious what Trends knows. I'm not saying he is part of any wrong doings. However he has been on this forum todayand didn't post. He did post lots when the winning was happening. All he had to do is make a statement even if it is just to say he knows nothing about what is happening. Just my thoughts. I would think he would want to clear his name if he is on the up and up
And I get that but people should also understand Trends doesn't need to say anything or owe anyone an explanation. Enter at your own risk
If he had the money available I am sure he would pay the posters back. By looking at his betting style unless you have a very large roll you wouldn't be able to keep up with the live betting, Large ML bets etc. Too many hands got involved, I don't even know how you could text/contact people to get down and then chase the loss with a larger amount and keep everything organized. The whole process got too complicated, people probably got out of their comfort zone and wouldnt use more credit to chase the losses
If this guy had 15 people to deal with and live betting was a huge part of his “system”.
Explain to me how he was able to contact 15 people at one time to make a live bet with a 60 second window .
Its hard to do that with one person much less 15 or more .
This guy had no system. He just wanted credit .
And most of the plays he posted in this thread are the perfect kind of plays to post on a forum hoping for a a short term heater to get everyone excited .
Buying up to 3 points on a side , large money line bets .
Not a hard thing to do with a short window of plays to get people all excited about hi. .
Explain to me how he was able to contact 15 people at one time to make a live bet with a 60 second window .
Its hard to do that with one person much less 15 or more .
This guy had no system. He just wanted credit .
And most of the plays he posted in this thread are the perfect kind of plays to post on a forum hoping for a a short term heater to get everyone excited .
Buying up to 3 points on a side , large money line bets .
Not a hard thing to do with a short window of plays to get people all excited about hi. .
I believe, but was said early in phone conversations, that mogley stated he was paying trends a salary while trends was doing most of the leg work in Vegas to open the bar. Mogley has to stop the cash flow when things got tight for him. Another sign that I think Mogley is just shopping for credit.
Yeah he doesn't owe an explanation but if you were owed 2500, 5k, 10k, whatever to this guy and his business partner was a well respected forum member, you would probably want to hear what he has to say on the matter, right?
You just would want to hear his perspective as he might have a better idea if you are completely SOL or not for 4-5 figures.
60 second window? Most live bets the window isn't even close to that large. I always enjoy when gamblers state "I am really good with live betting because I get such a good feel for the game". 99.9 of gamblers say this and aren't really good at it at all...one factor being the increased juice almost every sportsbook offers on live betting. It's like sex...everyone thinks they are the best.
I was asked earlier if I was an investor or booked his action. The answer is no to both. I never got involved nor would I ever in any sense.
For record keeping purposes and please correct if it is wrong:
I show the following is owed to posters:
Razorbackspicks $750
East Coast Bias $2,500
If I missed anyone's claims then post it.
I will add this, those that are owed money and are being silent in hopes of being paid, just come forward. The chances of you getting paid are slim to none. If a guy can't pay someone $750, what makes you think he is going to pay you.
You are just hurting others by staying silent. Let's face it, we know it's embarrassing, it's hard to give up hope, however at one time or another we have all been stiffed by someone or a book. I can bring up examples where I've been stiffed. Anyone remember Samantha from The Dunes or how about Eddie Hadeed from Royal. We won't even talk about Betonsports. I was stiffed large sums of money, but luckily for me, I was able to get a lot out first.
So you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last, the point of the matter is if you are getting screwed over, shout it from the rooftop, don't sit like a mouse. Help your fellow brethren avoid the same mistakes.
For record keeping purposes and please correct if it is wrong:
I show the following is owed to posters:
Razorbackspicks $750
East Coast Bias $2,500
If I missed anyone's claims then post it.
I will add this, those that are owed money and are being silent in hopes of being paid, just come forward. The chances of you getting paid are slim to none. If a guy can't pay someone $750, what makes you think he is going to pay you.
You are just hurting others by staying silent. Let's face it, we know it's embarrassing, it's hard to give up hope, however at one time or another we have all been stiffed by someone or a book. I can bring up examples where I've been stiffed. Anyone remember Samantha from The Dunes or how about Eddie Hadeed from Royal. We won't even talk about Betonsports. I was stiffed large sums of money, but luckily for me, I was able to get a lot out first.
So you aren't the first and certainly won't be the last, the point of the matter is if you are getting screwed over, shout it from the rooftop, don't sit like a mouse. Help your fellow brethren avoid the same mistakes.
Here's my only post in that Thread you talk about
Tell me where I was wrong back in Dec. 2017 WAY BEFORE he started "Touting"
Betallsports
Super Moderator
12-29-2017, 09:40 AM
This is an old Post so not sure if it's active
Guess you could email him to find out.
For those that have seen the way he wagers ( Thread in offshore ) He is mostly a Money line Gambler
meaning he could be laying $50,000+ to win $10,000 or ( $50K to win $5K ) when betting on Favorites
But he does seem legit on his gambling
I am not vouching for anyone, so don't take it that way. Just what i have seen posted in his thread in the Offshore forum
so like posted by Northern Star
Caveat Emptor
Guess you could email him to find out.
For those that have seen the way he wagers ( Thread in offshore ) He is mostly a Money line Gambler
meaning he could be laying $50,000+ to win $10,000 or ( $50K to win $5K ) when betting on Favorites
But he does seem legit on his gambling
I am not vouching for anyone, so don't take it that way. Just what i have seen posted in his thread in the Offshore forum
so like posted by Northern Star
Caveat Emptor
For anyone wanting to know my involvement in this... I have 0 (Z E R O) involvement. A few posters who know me personally and have my phone number contacted me early about this, and asked my opinion. I told them flatly that I am not involved, and that if I were them, I would think hard about it. This is a business model that doesnt work. Someone taking all the risk 100%, while giving away 1/2 of the profits?
It made no sense to me, I stayed away, and anyone who reached out to me I advised them to think really hard about it before jumping in, since I disagreed with how it is set up.
I gave NO RECOMMENDATIONS, but I did try and steer those that reached out to me away and to really think about it before doing it.
Someone taking 100% risk and giving up 50% of the profits for free didnt make any sense to me... So, again, I had 0 involvement in this!
It made no sense to me, I stayed away, and anyone who reached out to me I advised them to think really hard about it before jumping in, since I disagreed with how it is set up.
I gave NO RECOMMENDATIONS, but I did try and steer those that reached out to me away and to really think about it before doing it.
Someone taking 100% risk and giving up 50% of the profits for free didnt make any sense to me... So, again, I had 0 involvement in this!
