5 dimes did the switch on hommie

HacheMan · May 19, 2003

Dell, I agree with you, bonuses are of no concern to me, but as I said, to many it is, maybe not you or me , but to others, they depend on them if they dont have the funds that you, or I , or some others do. And Halifax, I know, Im not saying I agree with Danny's viewpoint, but it does make sense. If you owe $2500 worth of action, what difference does it make if I surpass that all in one week , or one month. I know they clearly state that the account must be active for the 30 days, and thats why 5dimes wins this case.......but maybe it should be changed.

tkf18ny · May 19, 2003

those casinos r fixed
simple
i have a 5dimes acct and only bet baseball an avg of 3 games per day
this guy went in there to bonus rape
and yeah there terms are ambiguous but they do say if your barely over the requiremnts from bj u dont qualify
the guy shoulda asked first

Banned4Life · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Bonus hunters are the shoplifters of the online gaming world... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So PLAYING BY THE RULES as set by the casino is SHOPLIFTING??? What color is the sky on your planet?

Banned4Life · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> According to the posted rules, a bettor owes them $2,500 in Action AND an Active account for 30 days. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am STILL waiting for someone to DEFINE the word ACTIVE as applies in this situation!

SPIVE · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> I am STILL waiting for someone to DEFINE the word ACTIVE as applies in this situation! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Waiting for someone?

Is it too difficult for YOU to simply email 5-Dimes and ask THEM?

Why do you guys routinely avoid directing your questions to those who know the answers?

Halifax · May 19, 2003

"I know they clearly state that the account must be active for the 30 days, and thats why 5dimes wins this case.......but maybe it should be changed."
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Hache Man:

No doubt 5Dimes does not want to change it. They figure if the money has to just sit there for 30 days, there is a much higher chance of them getting their hands on some or all of it, because:

1. you will get bored and go play some casino games, or
2. you will make a few more sports bets with the money "since it's in there anyway", or
3. you will make a few more sports bets trying to scalp your money out before the 30 days are up.

I doubt they will eliminate the rule - actually a lot of books have recently been ADDING this rule. I would be happy if they would simply clarify the "Active for 30 days" clause.

jwunderdog · May 19, 2003

Well I was thinking of opening an account at 5 dimes, not any longer any book that is worried about $200, is not getting any of my $.All of my McDonald's pay check are now going to SIA. Thats right $150 big ones a week.

Banned4Life · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Is it too difficult for YOU to simply email 5-Dimes and ask THEM? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well my question was not aimed at 5Dimes but at those who defend their theft. I am asking this question here in the context of debating the issue within this thread, not because I give a shit what BS answer 5Dimes can come up with. Since I have no intention of playing at 5Dimes anymore I could care less what definition they use so I'm not going to waste my time asking them.

HacheMan · May 19, 2003

Banned4life sounds like a gamer and fighter all, I have to give him his props.......Always has a strong comeback. Lets let it go guys, 5~dimes is a nice book, everyone has their own opinon on this "problem", if you want to call if that. Do they have rules they abide by......yes....WEre they a little picky......yes.......No need to take it any further really.

buddyboy · May 19, 2003

ACTIVE ACCOUNT: The complete opposite of bonus whore account.

DavidMatthews · May 19, 2003

Ever hear the expression "Penny wise and pound foolish" ?

That is exactly what people are when they do the absolute MINIMUM necessary to meet bonus requirements.

David

jateeluv · May 19, 2003

active account: not an idle account nor a closed account.

but then you got to state what an idle account is...

geezus

joeyl · May 19, 2003

Money was left in an active account for the 30 days.

Is it even possible to have funds in an inactive account i ask myself?

The definition 5dimes are after is an active player i believe.Is not what is written,or is it?

Playthrough x 5 was met.

Casino really should bite the bullet from what i've read.

jateeluv · May 19, 2003

I think Books that use bonuses are just waiting for conflict.

The initial deposit bonus is the maximum IMO that a casino/book should give. Any other additional funds that a casino does should be done through contests or the Comp point system.

Bonuses should only be used to attract new customers and should not be used to get customers to come back. If the player does not feel like coming back then let the person go, but by no means should the casino/sportbook call him out for leaving and especially with taking away any legit money won.

If a casino is relying on bonuses to get customers back then they are hurting in one way or the other.

Banned4Life · May 19, 2003

I hate to single out 5Dimes because they're otherwise a good book. It's just the entire industry standard which seems to be "phuch the customer every chance or loophole we get". Whether it's "bad lines" or "bonus abuse" or some other shit it seems that most books write their rules deliberately vague so they can turn around and stick the player (who follows what he THINKS are the rules) with an "ah-ha". They wave an outrageous bonus in your face and then when it turns out you're not a complete and total loser they treat you like the scum of the earth and take back what they promise you. Forget about big bonuses and soft lines give me a book that treats the player with honor, which honors their rules as written, who doesn't look for every nit-picking loophole as an excuse to screw me, and who doesn't treat me like a shit ball for the crime of winning a few bucks.

On that note, I challenge you all to find ONE thread where someone ever had a problem with Canbet.

joeyl · May 19, 2003

I would define an inactive account as an account that has been closed by the player or casino.

I would guess the account is prolly inactive now though.

Banned4Life · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Ever hear the expression "Penny wise and pound foolish" ?

That is exactly what people are when they do the absolute MINIMUM necessary to meet bonus requirements. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah... that's what people are who FOLLOW THE RULES AS WRITTEN. If 5Dimes doesn't like their rules then they should change (or clarify) them.

And regarding "bonus hunters"... EVERYONE who accepts a bonus is technically a "bonus hunter". It's just that some players are better at using the bonuses than others.

HacheMan · May 19, 2003

By Joey<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I would guess the account is prolly inactive now though.

Lol Joey.........

SPIVE · May 19, 2003

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR> Well my question was not aimed at 5Dimes but at those who defend their theft. I am asking this question here in the context of debating the issue within this thread, not because I give a shit what BS answer 5Dimes can come up with. Since I have no intention of playing at 5Dimes anymore I could care less what definition they use so I'm not going to waste my time asking them <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I also have no intentions of playing with 5-Dimes...yet, direct inquires requesting specifics regarding the term "active" and how it applies to a client’s account have gone UNANSWERED by 5Dimes.

Unlike you, others here do care, while 5Dimes appears reluctant to provide answers, specifics or explanations upon their own behalf regarding their promotions.

Note:

"Bonus whores" cannot exist without a "Bonus Pimp."

Halifax · May 19, 2003

Banned:

I have seen numerous complaints about Canbet lowering limits and limiting winners ... of course, in the overall scheme of things these are not much to worry about.
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For the people who believe that:

Leaving Money in the Account for 30 Days = Satisfying Bonus Requirements

let's look closely at the wording of 5Dimes' rules:

"Bonuses earned after deposits and Sportsbook/Casino transfers are only valid if the amount deposited remains active in the account for 30 days."

If the wording was "... amount deposited remains IN the account for 30 days", then I would agree with you, and the bettor would have successfully satisfied 5Dimes' requirements.

However, the wording says "... amount deposited remains ACTIVE IN the account for 30 days", so this means "something more" than simply letting the money sit in the account for the final 29 days. "How much more" is what needs to be clarified.

[This message was edited by Halifax on May 19, 2003 at 05:59 PM.]

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