It would be nice if these casinos had the option upon registration to NOT get a bonus.
Let's say I deposit $500 and win $500, then I want to do a cash out.
But if they offer a dep. bonus on signup, say 20%, then they can keep all my money hostage until I turnover that $600 (my $500 +$100 bonus) 5x or whatever.
Bonuses don't do anyone a favor. It's just a way for casinos to hold your money. BAN BONUSES.
If I play and win, pay me.
If I play and lose, fine.
No bonuses, no time commitments, no nonsense.
Can you imagine walking into a casino, winning and then they stop you at the door and tell you that you can't leave for 30 days?
Does any online casino offer the option of NO BONUSES?
Let's say I deposit $500 and win $500, then I want to do a cash out.
But if they offer a dep. bonus on signup, say 20%, then they can keep all my money hostage until I turnover that $600 (my $500 +$100 bonus) 5x or whatever.
Bonuses don't do anyone a favor. It's just a way for casinos to hold your money. BAN BONUSES.
If I play and win, pay me.
If I play and lose, fine.
No bonuses, no time commitments, no nonsense.
Can you imagine walking into a casino, winning and then they stop you at the door and tell you that you can't leave for 30 days?
Does any online casino offer the option of NO BONUSES?
Payton:
Maybe you can "self-ban" your own bonuses, but I prefer to keep mine, thanks.
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On to your overall post ... it doesn't make a great deal of sense, since the worst case scenario with 5Dimes (and most other places) is that if you don't fulfill their bonus/rollover requirements, you forfeit the BONUS ONLY. In fact, at 5Dimes, you can withdraw any winnings BEFORE the 30 day period is up, and still earn out the bonus.
I don't see how you or anyone is worse off by being given the bonus - you can earn it out by abiding by their rules, or you can forfeit it and collect your winnings plus initial deposit at any time.
Maybe you can "self-ban" your own bonuses, but I prefer to keep mine, thanks.
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On to your overall post ... it doesn't make a great deal of sense, since the worst case scenario with 5Dimes (and most other places) is that if you don't fulfill their bonus/rollover requirements, you forfeit the BONUS ONLY. In fact, at 5Dimes, you can withdraw any winnings BEFORE the 30 day period is up, and still earn out the bonus.
I don't see how you or anyone is worse off by being given the bonus - you can earn it out by abiding by their rules, or you can forfeit it and collect your winnings plus initial deposit at any time.
Good point Payton regarding a land casino keeping you for 30 days (agree with you except for banning the bonus)! Recently I signed up with a book and informed them to not credit a bonus to my account, only the 2nd or 3rd time I've ever done that but for good reason, I want my money when I want it and no BS to go with it. Bonuses are only as good as the book offering them.
well obviously the guy read the rules. The question is that the rules are fuzzy in some areas. What is deemed active? The guy had an 'active' account for 30 days. He did not close it until he was able to cash out the bonus. In my opinion, the deposits HIS OWN money, then wagers with HIS OWN money, satisfies the wagering requires of 5x and waits to receive the bonus. Maybe he felt like he ran into some great luck and didn't want to risk his profit. I think its is wrong that the casino is pressed upon this issue when the guy just WON his money. If he lost his money in one day and doesn't deposit for 30 days and then withdrawals just the bonus, does this mean he is a bonus hunter too? I don't think so.
THe casinos/sportsbooks offer the bonuses because they want players to deposit again without the bonuses. They should not get mad when a player doesn't want to deposit again. It is the chance the casino/sportsbook takes when offering a bonus. To me its a win/win situation for them. If the player loses on the bonus then don't say nothing, but if the player wins...call him/her a bonus hunter.
THe casinos/sportsbooks offer the bonuses because they want players to deposit again without the bonuses. They should not get mad when a player doesn't want to deposit again. It is the chance the casino/sportsbook takes when offering a bonus. To me its a win/win situation for them. If the player loses on the bonus then don't say nothing, but if the player wins...call him/her a bonus hunter.
Five dimes is a friggin joke. They pulled some similar shit like this on me about 6 months ago. The guy played his 5 time rollover and left his money in the account for 30 days, and now they pull this shit. So if You don't play for one day they could claim the account is inactive.
What difference does it make if he plays the full 5 time rollover in the first week ? He is still giving them the same amount of action as he would be if he spread the 5 time play through out over the whole month.
He played his 5 time rollover and he waited 30 days . Five dimes is clearly in the wrong here - as they usually are. They gave me the same BS as they gave him to. They said pretty much, "oh well, too bad". This book is not even following its own rules, this cant be a good sign.
I dont think a solid book would pull some shit like this just to save $190. I hope they are in trouble, and the day I log into the forums and see that five dimes went bankrupt I will laugh my ass off and throw a party.
What difference does it make if he plays the full 5 time rollover in the first week ? He is still giving them the same amount of action as he would be if he spread the 5 time play through out over the whole month.
He played his 5 time rollover and he waited 30 days . Five dimes is clearly in the wrong here - as they usually are. They gave me the same BS as they gave him to. They said pretty much, "oh well, too bad". This book is not even following its own rules, this cant be a good sign.
I dont think a solid book would pull some shit like this just to save $190. I hope they are in trouble, and the day I log into the forums and see that five dimes went bankrupt I will laugh my ass off and throw a party.
I had to check out the 5dimes site to see exactly what it says... it is very clear they do not want bonus hunters at 5dimes.
I can see a guy that deposits money in a casino/book and then does the bare min to get the bonus and then closes his account might be considered a bonus hunter.
here is a link to 5dimes rules page
I can see a guy that deposits money in a casino/book and then does the bare min to get the bonus and then closes his account might be considered a bonus hunter.
here is a link to 5dimes rules page
I think everyone should avoid this book.
Clearly the guy has a legitimate concern, even if you side with five dimes. His concern is reasonable. But Nicole is not the least bit sympathetic. Instead she attacks him, calling him a bonus hunter. Her insinuations that he is dishonest are way out of line. Five dimes has not, and will not change the wording of its bonus rules to reflect that they expect continous play throughout the entire 30 days.
Avoid this book. They are clearly willing to interpret the rules in whatever way favors their position and tell you "oh well, too bad".
Clearly the guy has a legitimate concern, even if you side with five dimes. His concern is reasonable. But Nicole is not the least bit sympathetic. Instead she attacks him, calling him a bonus hunter. Her insinuations that he is dishonest are way out of line. Five dimes has not, and will not change the wording of its bonus rules to reflect that they expect continous play throughout the entire 30 days.
Avoid this book. They are clearly willing to interpret the rules in whatever way favors their position and tell you "oh well, too bad".
Jake Thompson,
He absolutly followed the rules as they are stated. He left his funds in the account for 30 days, and he met the 5 time rollover requirement.
His bonus was lost because he did not play every single day during the 30 days he had money in the account.
Five Dimes position is ludicrous and I guarantee you any respectable book with the 30 day requirment would not pull this shit.
He absolutly followed the rules as they are stated. He left his funds in the account for 30 days, and he met the 5 time rollover requirement.
His bonus was lost because he did not play every single day during the 30 days he had money in the account.
Five Dimes position is ludicrous and I guarantee you any respectable book with the 30 day requirment would not pull this shit.
5dimes is great in my book. they did a great thing for me. during the NBA reg. season I was betting 1st qrts for weeks one night after checking my bets i noticed i either clicked the wrong team or there was an error. and this was after the quarter was over and it was graded a loss...when i bet qrts in the NBA i always take the home team... this time on accident or by website error i had the away team and the bet lost. I emailed them for the heck of it not expecting anything and they canceled the wager for me after looking at my betting pattern and noticing that i had bet 37 home teams in the 1st qrtr and 0 road teams. i didnt even mention that to them... so in my eyes.. they are a good book and deserve my business.
Danny, believe me, I'm not targeting you directly here, but I must disagree again. First the guy demands an answer, then demands payment, then threatens the lady before she even says anything about the situation. He brought on the harsh comments from Nicole by not being calm about it in my opinion.
I got a bonus at MVPSportsBook about a month ago.
They have a 30 day requirement along with 2 time play through ( A much better deal than five dimes ).
I didnt make any plays this weekend because I had things going on. Hope I dont lose my bonus.
No, Dalton would not pull a weasel move like that. Glad I didn't deposit at five dimes.
They have a 30 day requirement along with 2 time play through ( A much better deal than five dimes ).
I didnt make any plays this weekend because I had things going on. Hope I dont lose my bonus.
No, Dalton would not pull a weasel move like that. Glad I didn't deposit at five dimes.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DannyMay:
Jake Thompson,
He absolutly followed the rules as they are stated. He left his funds in the account for 30 days, and he met the 5 time rollover requirement.
His bonus was lost because he did not play every single day during the 30 days he had money in the account.
Five Dimes position is ludicrous and I guarantee you any respectable book with the 30 day requirment would not pull this shit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The man did not play for 30 days. 5Dimes' rules, that he willingly agreed to abide by, state your account needs to be active for 30 days. He wasn't active for 30 days. The wording may not be the cleanest but there are tons of books with the exact same wording that no one is complaining about. I hate to see the guy lose money over this but 5dimes has every right to enforce their rules.
Jake Thompson,
He absolutly followed the rules as they are stated. He left his funds in the account for 30 days, and he met the 5 time rollover requirement.
His bonus was lost because he did not play every single day during the 30 days he had money in the account.
Five Dimes position is ludicrous and I guarantee you any respectable book with the 30 day requirment would not pull this shit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The man did not play for 30 days. 5Dimes' rules, that he willingly agreed to abide by, state your account needs to be active for 30 days. He wasn't active for 30 days. The wording may not be the cleanest but there are tons of books with the exact same wording that no one is complaining about. I hate to see the guy lose money over this but 5dimes has every right to enforce their rules.
I would challenge you that there is not a decent book in the world that would take the bonus back because you didnt play every day.
I know for a fact that I have gone 10 or more days at MVPSportsbook without playing, and still got my bonus. They require a 2 time play through ( much better deal ) and that the money remains in your account 30 days.
Five dimes interpretation of "Active" would allow them to confiscate your bonus if you missed one day.
They have an outrageous 5 time play through along with a 30 day requirment and they only give a match play bonus. He more than earned that bonus, and if their intentions were honest they should change the wording so it is clear they expect you to play every single day.
I know for a fact that I have gone 10 or more days at MVPSportsbook without playing, and still got my bonus. They require a 2 time play through ( much better deal ) and that the money remains in your account 30 days.
Five dimes interpretation of "Active" would allow them to confiscate your bonus if you missed one day.
They have an outrageous 5 time play through along with a 30 day requirment and they only give a match play bonus. He more than earned that bonus, and if their intentions were honest they should change the wording so it is clear they expect you to play every single day.
Lets say he owed them $2500 in action.
What difference does it make if he plays the whole $2500 in week 1 and then waits 25 more days to withdraw ?
It is no different than if he made $85 per day in action.
This is a clear excuse by five dimes to confiscate $190 and I hope it is a sign of a troubled book.
What difference does it make if he plays the whole $2500 in week 1 and then waits 25 more days to withdraw ?
It is no different than if he made $85 per day in action.
This is a clear excuse by five dimes to confiscate $190 and I hope it is a sign of a troubled book.
