WVU-where are you-we got some work to do now

whalewager · May 31, 2008

SoCal said:
i'm just trying to catch up on what's happening, maybe I am wrong. if so, the "wtf" is well deserved... if i understand correctly... LP bet $1k w/ WVU at 14-1 that lakers win title. WVU accepts. LP sends cardsfan the 1k to hold onto??? (is that right?) Lakers start to kick ass and WVU disappears.

cardfan... u then said a few posts ago that wvu will get paid if LP loses? am i right? i dunno... if so... I was asking HOW are you going to pay WVU? are u assuming he will surface and then you pay him? or do you know how to get him the funding even if he never surfaces . i could have this all F'd up.

you have the meat of the story...he has to surface to get paid i would think...common sense...something tells me if lakers lose he will surface eventually with some story about how he was kidnapped by aliens or jews...

it is interesting to me that he did come in recently and adjust his location from south florida to florida/wvu

many of us know where he is from...bet isnt over but it would be nice for him to contact

whalewager · May 31, 2008

btw...i dont really give a flying fuck what business he was in...that is irrelevant...

a bet is a bet is a bet and we arent fucking kids around here

SoCal · May 31, 2008

Cardsfan said:
btw...i dont really give a flying fuck what business he was in...that is irrelevant...

a bet is a bet is a bet and we arent fucking kids around here

no way should LP lose his money if WVU stays hidden until the series is over. i expect he may surface after its over when Bos has won and not accept the money and give us some story so we will nvr know the truth. if La wins of course we'll nvr see him. whatever man. just bad business all around.

wilheim · May 31, 2008

Just for the record

Making bets with Rx moderators does not in anyway make The Rx.com itself responsible for paying them if the moderator loses, just like it does not make the Rx.com responsible if a mod does not pay his rent or child support for example.

Granted using common sense and ordinary decenecy if a currently salaried moderator in good standing made a wager with a poster and lost it I am sure that Rx Management (principally Rx General Manager Rick Allec) would do what he could to broker a deal between the still salaried moderator and the owed poster if the moderator in question refused to pay.

Unfortunately the only leverage TheRx has to broker such a deal is the mods future pay. In the recent case involving ex Rx moderator Journeyman there is nothing The Rx.com can do to force him to pay his gambling debts. The situation will be the the same with WVU should he lose this bet to Lapdance.

I have warned posters time and time again about this kind of thing.

For the record WVU last logged in here in early May but did not post. His last post at his newly adopted forum was on May 18th..

Please keep in mind that no one has actually won or lost anything yet.

Rx.com Policy regarding financial transactions between posters.

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Please proceed with extreme caution and operate at your own risk when dealing with other Rx posters privately, especially in financial matters. The Rx.com does not endorse any posters that solicit other posters for loans or transfers and cannot vouch for any posters that attempt to procure loans or transfers from other posters anywhere on this site.

Financial transactions between posters are extrememly risky and The Rx. advises the use of the most serious caution before making any kind of financial transaction with another poster. The Rx.com itself cannot be held responsible when posters fail trying to recover funds loaned, transferred or wagered to other posters under any circumstances.

Unless you personally know a poster or one is vouched for you by someone you highly trust you should be very hesitent to conduct unsecured financial business with posters that you meet on this any other forum.

I cannot over emphasize how dangerous it is to bet, loan or transfer money with or to complete stangers and expect to be paid in the end. I am not saying all posters are dishonest but utmost caution needs to be practiced whenever posters deal with each others privately, especially in regards to financial matters. The Rx.com cannot help mediate disputed wagers or debts between private parties unless both are willing to cooperate.

Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware..

Thank you, wilheim..

whalewager · May 31, 2008

wil,

why did you post this

Cusipz · May 31, 2008

He doesn't want anyone to think he's going to cough up the 14 grand, that's why.

whalewager · May 31, 2008

thanks

wilheim · May 31, 2008

wil,

why did you post this

Mainly as a warning for the future - hopefully to decrease the chances of other posters finding themselves in the same boat as Lapdance is in.

Cusipz - wrong -- there never was any doubt that. TheRx.com is not now or was ever in the past responsible for paying the gambling debts of it's employees.

Sure if the site could it would do it's best to try and help in some way to broker a deal to settle the wager if it was even remotely possible. Once the employee quit the site helping in anyway became very unlikey.

In the end a private bet is a contract between two individuals and only the loser is responsible for paying the winner. Not his place of employment, the losers's family, including his wife or girlfriend, his best friend, business partner, next door neighbor etc. are responsible. You bet, you lose, then you pay, there are no excuses for stiffing another person on a fairly made wager.

To qoute an earlier post in this thread:

"a bet is a bet is a bet and we arent kids around here".

wil.

whalewager · May 31, 2008

not an accurate quote

GREENHEAD · May 31, 2008

Cardsfan said:
not an accurate quote

Pretty "fucking" close. :dancefool

CHOPTALK · May 31, 2008

wilheim said:
Mainly as a warning for the future - hopefully to decrease the chances of other posters finding themselves in the same boat as Lapdance is in.

Cusipz - wrong -- there never was any doubt that. TheRx.com is not now or was ever in the past responsible for paying the gambling debts of it's employees.

Sure if the site could it would do it's best to try and help in some way to broker a deal to settle the wager if it was even remotely possible. Once the employee quit the site helping in anyway became very unlikey.

In the end a private bet is a contract between two individuals and only the loser is responsible for paying the winner. Not his place of employment, the losers's family, including his wife or girlfriend, his best friend, business partner, next door neighbor etc. are responsible. You bet, you lose, then you pay, there are no excuses for stiffing another person on a fairly made wager.

To qoute an earlier post in this thread:

"a bet is a bet is a bet and we arent kids around here".

wil.

This is great advice from wil.

I have already been stiffed by one poster about 3 years ago, and its looking like I am about to be stiffed by another poster here shortly.
We will find out soon.

ECS · May 31, 2008

So at this point, whats the line for the Lakers to win the series? Anyone have any idea of what the line was before the playoffs started? You would hope WVU would be smart enough to lay off, we shall see

BettingFoodStamps · May 31, 2008

If you still have lapdance's money i say give it back to him. WVU has no intention to pay obviously. But we all know damn well if boston wins he will come looking for his money. If he doesnt get a hold of cardsfan or lapdance by tipoff i say the bet should be off. No reason for lapdance to lose 1,000 or at best get stiffed.

BAGIANT · May 31, 2008

Lakers -175.

Interesting enough, and this has happened only twice in modern day NBA, Lakers are a series fave and yet a dog in the first game. Both times this happened before, the series fave won the series, and I think both won the first game. 1st time I noticed this was around 1994 when the Bulls were one of the teams. Can't remember the second one although it happened in the last five or so years.

wilheim · May 31, 2008

I personally don't think WVU is going to stiff.

I hope you are right, only time will tell if he does or even has to. I know many people figure the Lakers are a cinch to win the title but they still have to play the games. Essentially WVU has a $14K line of credit, while Lapdance has none because he posted up his end to a trusted source.

What would be decent is some sort of assurance by WVU (privately if he wants) to Lapdance that he is prepared to pay if he loses. I know it is not mandatory in a normal two guys bet each other sense but most guys would be understanding enough to drop an email or make a quick phone call to deflate all this supposition.

WVU easily could have used two minutes to email Lapdance on any given day. Even now IMO he should at least drop a line to LD to let him know his bet is good if he wins.

I think everyone with an ounce of fairness in their heart hopes the right thing is done in this case.

wil..

BAGIANT · May 31, 2008

Betting Food Stamps said:
If you still have lapdance's money i say give it back to him. WVU has no intention to pay obviously. But we all know damn well if boston wins he will come looking for his money. If he doesnt get a hold of cardsfan or lapdance by tipoff i say the bet should be off. No reason for lapdance to lose 1,000 or at best get stiffed.

It has to be sooner than tip off since LD will probably want to hedge his bet.

I still say that if he isn't heard from, and he (WVU) wins the bet, that he sends LD 14,000 to LD, before he can collect the 1000. It would just show good faith that he had the money to pay if he had lost. Tha's the only way I would pay him if WVU won the bet.

Cusipz · May 31, 2008

14k is 14k....

In hindsight, this bet should not have been 'on' until the trusted third party have both players funds...

I hope he'd pay, but if boston wins and he comes back with "guys, of course i would have paid, but i started a new job and honestly forgot about the bet and swore to myself i'd focus on the new job and not bet or post on forums until football starts.."

or some rubbish like that... would be tough to give him the grand.

slapshot · May 31, 2008

Cardsfan said:
02-02-2008, 02:06 PM #125
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Originally Posted by lapdance
dime sent to WW. let me know if your still accepting this.

bet is on.