i will probally be going to hard rock tomorrow night so he can get his cash there. i just hope he doesn't act like an ass so i don't do something stupid.
Will, you will recieve an email tomorrow about the details where he will meet me. i already know what he looks like so their won't be any mix ups.
Will, you will recieve an email tomorrow about the details where he will meet me. i already know what he looks like so their won't be any mix ups.
just got a call saying that WVU wanted to see the email that was sent to him on may 20th that he clains he never got
Date:
Tue, 20 May 2008 07:17:45 -0700 (PDT)
To:
kengam77@hotmail.com
just seeing if you want to settle the laker bet now
for less or continue on? just let me know before the
start of game one of the spurs series.
thanks,
lapdance
Date:
Tue, 20 May 2008 07:17:45 -0700 (PDT)
To:
kengam77@hotmail.com
just seeing if you want to settle the laker bet now
for less or continue on? just let me know before the
start of game one of the spurs series.
thanks,
lapdance
VD, I am not hiding. I have made a decision to no longer post at this site. I stopped in here to answer Wil on the main page sticky, and decided to post one last time in this thread.
I will admit to making the mistake of not keeping in close contact with Lapdance. On the other hand he did not keep in contact with me either. He has posted the one email that he sent me. For whatever reason I did not get it or I would have responded. It is possible that it went to my spam box but I have no clue. Let me also restate that I asked Whalewager to have him contact me to discuss a buyout. He did not do that. So I guess you could say neither of us were very good about communication.
I don't know why I am bothering to post anything, because I know you have all made up your mind about me and I cannot change that. If I had lost my bet Lapdance would have been paid in full within 48 hours of the final game. I know you guys think otherwise, but that is the truth. Regardless the bet won for me and I do not have to pay, but I do intend to collect.
I also made the mistake of trusting Whalewager to be impartial. I understand he has some ties and some sort of relationship with Lapdance that I was not aware of at the time of committing to this bet. Reading back through the threads he, along with everyone else insinuated all along that I was free rolling Lapdance. An impartial mediator should not be making statements along those lines while the bet was still going. Lapdance himself stated that he was confident that I would pay if I lost. He also stated he had no intention of hedging.
Either way, the bet was finalized and I was under no obligation to post here, nor was I obligated to communicate with him whatsoever. When the bet was over I came back to this site to finalize collecting on my win. YES it was only one day later after a long absence. I am sure many of you check on your bets immediately after they are supposed to be graded especially a large and long standing future bet. The timeframe of when I quit posting here and when I came back to collect are irrelevant. The bet was over and he has an obligation to pay.
I stated that my winnings are going to go to charity. This will be a charity of my choice, and my choice only. If others want to match my donations then I will see to it that my choice(s) is made public. Let me clarify that I am not under any obligation to donate my winnings to charity whatsoever, but I am going to anyway under my own free will and not through forced avenues as has been suggested here.
In closing, this bet was a huge mistake. It created tension between me and others and pretty much tarnished my online reputation forever. I will have to accept that based on my actions or lack of actions throughout this bet. If any good does come from this other than charitable donations, maybe we can all learn the dangers and complications that can occur when making a wager with an unknown person through the internet.
Wil has stressed since day one the perils of wagering with unknowns. This should forever serve as an example of that. I have no interest in continuing discussions of this bet on this forum. I hope you understand.
I wish everyone a great summer and good luck on all future bets.
WVU in the thread...i still don't see 1,000 posts.
nice job on the 10k steak!
WVU, I am not usually gullible, but your post makes me believe you would've paid....lol....I know you won't respond, but I'm confident you read this thread. Everything you stated about the terms/obligations of the bet are 100% correct although I think you have to ask yourself, back when you were posting, how would you feel in lappy's shoes? I think you would've been on the side of the majority here.
Either way, I hope your donation to charity helps out your online persona!
nice job on the 10k steak!
WVU, I am not usually gullible, but your post makes me believe you would've paid....lol....I know you won't respond, but I'm confident you read this thread. Everything you stated about the terms/obligations of the bet are 100% correct although I think you have to ask yourself, back when you were posting, how would you feel in lappy's shoes? I think you would've been on the side of the majority here.
Either way, I hope your donation to charity helps out your online persona!
too bad you did not make that post a week ago as opposed to bumping your gums at Land of the Stiff EOG... then it might seem genuine... instead it is a transparent effort to get, what you called, your "online reputation"...
you are right that you were not under any obligation to not act like a douche throughout this entire process... but it is what a good guy who makes a wager with another good guy does...
you treat someone how you wanna be treated and the state you left Lapdance in during the wager is enough to justify all of the shit you have gotten and will get.
go post with the other classless losers across the street.
you are right that you were not under any obligation to not act like a douche throughout this entire process... but it is what a good guy who makes a wager with another good guy does...
you treat someone how you wanna be treated and the state you left Lapdance in during the wager is enough to justify all of the shit you have gotten and will get.
go post with the other classless losers across the street.
Good Lord what a crock of shit.
WVU's life long passion/career has been scamming. Now whether or not you think that is OK is a discussion for another time but the bottom line is that this is the type of person that you should form your opinion through his actions not his words.
Here is an old WVU post I just dug up that outlines some of his chicanery.
WVU <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4221509", true); </script>
RX SemiGod
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: WV/Florida
Posts: 11,216
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<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Here is the story. I cut and pasted it from older posts:
Back in September of 2001 (yeah that time) Casino on Net ran a roulette promotion where they paid double if you hit a 0 or 7 over a 2 hour period. Instead of the usual 35-1 they paid 70-1. I bet $50 and $100 bets on both 0 and 7 for 567 spins. I hit 31 times during the 2 hour period. I made 72k profit when it was all said and done. I was also managing 3 other accounts that netted me another 85 grand after profit sharing.
The casino gave away a total of 4 million in bonuses during that promotion. If you were around the scene back then you probably heard about it as they threw that number up everywhere they could. My team of 14 players took in a total of 1.65 million of that 4 million.
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we did everything we could to keep the promotion off all the major boards. We even posted negatively about the promotion every time it was brought up in a public forum. It was a very well thought out plan on our part to keep this under wraps enough to not bankrupt the casino and ruin our chances of getting paid. If we did not do pre-promo damage control they would have given away 40 million instead of 4. They would have never paid that much. At the time their advertising budget was 2 million per month.
Some of our accounts were locked immediately after receiving the bonus dollars 24 hours after the promotion. As it turned out the accounts that got locked were the ones that got over 100k in bonuses and the software could not add a 6 figure bonus. They ended up opening separate accounts for those that went over 100k.
During the promo only 35-1 was paid on the hits and the bonus was added the next day. We loaded up our accounts with anywhere from 10k to 25k to be able to sustain the swings. All 14 of us were on a conference call keeping score so we would know if CON was rigging the game. About half of our accounts busted before the 2 hours were up. My first spin was a 0 so I was ahead for about the first hour or so. My 25k bank was down to about 15k by the time the promo was over.
They made us wager 2 x the bonus before we could cash out. In doing so I figured out that I could continuously make money on their blackjack game by becoming a gold VIP member. Gold members got $4 back for every $1000 they wagered. Their blackjack rules at the time gave the house a .22% edge with perfect play. I essentially made $1.78 for every $1000 wagered when you added the comp dollars. I lost about 5k wagering the 2 million to get to gold VIP. I got many times that back over the next 12 months just by playing. I won several monthly betting contests doing this which also paid 10k a pop until they reduced it to 5k. Eventually they abandoned the gold VIP program and changed in to invite only. It wasn't long after that when they started banning bonus players completely.
From what I know the promotion manager was around for about a month or two after the promotion. He was then demoted to other duties and I was told he quit shortly after. He later partnered with 2 other ex-employees and started another casino that failed quickly
WVU's life long passion/career has been scamming. Now whether or not you think that is OK is a discussion for another time but the bottom line is that this is the type of person that you should form your opinion through his actions not his words.
Here is an old WVU post I just dug up that outlines some of his chicanery.
WVU <script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_4221509", true); </script>
RX SemiGod
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: WV/Florida
Posts: 11,216
<!-- icon and title -->
<hr style="color: rgb(253, 222, 130);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Here is the story. I cut and pasted it from older posts:
Back in September of 2001 (yeah that time) Casino on Net ran a roulette promotion where they paid double if you hit a 0 or 7 over a 2 hour period. Instead of the usual 35-1 they paid 70-1. I bet $50 and $100 bets on both 0 and 7 for 567 spins. I hit 31 times during the 2 hour period. I made 72k profit when it was all said and done. I was also managing 3 other accounts that netted me another 85 grand after profit sharing.
The casino gave away a total of 4 million in bonuses during that promotion. If you were around the scene back then you probably heard about it as they threw that number up everywhere they could. My team of 14 players took in a total of 1.65 million of that 4 million.
.....
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;">
</td></tr></tbody></table>
we did everything we could to keep the promotion off all the major boards. We even posted negatively about the promotion every time it was brought up in a public forum. It was a very well thought out plan on our part to keep this under wraps enough to not bankrupt the casino and ruin our chances of getting paid. If we did not do pre-promo damage control they would have given away 40 million instead of 4. They would have never paid that much. At the time their advertising budget was 2 million per month.
Some of our accounts were locked immediately after receiving the bonus dollars 24 hours after the promotion. As it turned out the accounts that got locked were the ones that got over 100k in bonuses and the software could not add a 6 figure bonus. They ended up opening separate accounts for those that went over 100k.
During the promo only 35-1 was paid on the hits and the bonus was added the next day. We loaded up our accounts with anywhere from 10k to 25k to be able to sustain the swings. All 14 of us were on a conference call keeping score so we would know if CON was rigging the game. About half of our accounts busted before the 2 hours were up. My first spin was a 0 so I was ahead for about the first hour or so. My 25k bank was down to about 15k by the time the promo was over.
They made us wager 2 x the bonus before we could cash out. In doing so I figured out that I could continuously make money on their blackjack game by becoming a gold VIP member. Gold members got $4 back for every $1000 they wagered. Their blackjack rules at the time gave the house a .22% edge with perfect play. I essentially made $1.78 for every $1000 wagered when you added the comp dollars. I lost about 5k wagering the 2 million to get to gold VIP. I got many times that back over the next 12 months just by playing. I won several monthly betting contests doing this which also paid 10k a pop until they reduced it to 5k. Eventually they abandoned the gold VIP program and changed in to invite only. It wasn't long after that when they started banning bonus players completely.
From what I know the promotion manager was around for about a month or two after the promotion. He was then demoted to other duties and I was told he quit shortly after. He later partnered with 2 other ex-employees and started another casino that failed quickly
my guess would be the new mod to be(dinner with shrink tonight...birds of a feather) didnt have the 14k handy.........in 5 years he will be at eog moderating ...if that or any forum is around then......was a total shot anyone with any brain knows it..........i actually have many friends at eog i wont go over there...5starpuke owes 300 to patsfan will not pay........jman owes badco(i dont know the story) and for sure he owes ttinco..........and wvu took a shot he won so he gets paid...........when the in house bickering starts over there because paid poster A is getting 150 more a month paid poster D.......it will happen..........shrink will slit their throats quick too..........he doesn't give a fuck about any of them.................will be fun
