WSEX YOUR CLEARED IN MY BOOK!!!!!

[wilheim]

Fine, but there is no way any book wants all that action on one side at the same price. Imagine if the bets were made ligit. during actual crunch time. After every nickel bet the line moves at least a cent (conservative), so by the time Revere had everything down the line should have been Manchester more or less a -160 favorite. Can you see Revere laying every number a penny at a time all the way up to -160? Now lets say they got some buy back along the way, which may have been very likely if the game was being moved as it should have, given the one sided action. Then it would be realistic to give Revere more action beyond the initial $500 to offset action taken against his side.

wil.

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

WILLY WHY SHOULD WE IMAGINE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL MONEY SO F-CK THE IMAGINE CRAP HE RISKED A LOT OF MONEY AND WENT THROUGH A LOT OF ANXIETY WATCHING THE GAME AND THEN FOE WSEX TO TELL HIM AFTER THE GAME HIS BET IS CANCELLED I AM REALLY SURPRISED THIS GUY DIDNT HAVE A HEART ATTACK.

I WOULD SUE THE SHIT OUT OF WSEX FOR CAUSING THIS MAN CHEST PAINS

 

[Java]

JJ-
1) WSEX limit on soccer is not $500. Steve said he wanted to talk to Revere to decide how much he wanted to take. So, if limit was really $500, no reason to discuss it.

2) It is similar to Casablanca in that there was a lot of money on one side and no one moved the line. Also, bets weren't cancelled until outcome was know.

3) Game was not rigged. There may have been some sick/injured players on one team. Revere may have done some good research and spotted this. However, since the closing line didn't move, the players may have already been taken into account and Revere thought he had an advantage and was merely lucky.

4) Can you explain why not a single one of Revere's wagers was cancelled prior to the END of the match?

 

[jjgold]

This game might have been rigged.

Call other books worlwide and see if betting patter was strange!!

If I were a book I would notify The Premiere League on unusual betting activity

 

[Dom]

Wilheim,

Did they accept all his bets at @+120? YES
Did they give him a valid ticket for each bet? YES
Did he bet a bad line? NO
Did he bet the game after it started? NO
Is it his fault that they did not move the line? NO

Unless you can argue any of these, I can not see why anyone can say that they are in their good right to cancel his bets after the match was over..

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Java:

Please explain how you expect a book that caters to N. American sports & has a posted max limit of $20,000 on a NFL side would turn around & take almost $40,000 on a soccer match & the line never moved.

I know you & anyone for that matter can't.

 

[Dom]

JJ,

You get more stupid to read for each post you make.. A premiereship game rigged? my god, do you even have a clue what the Premiereship is?

It is 1000% sure that the game was not rigged.. what a stupid comment..

 

[jjgold]

great point egd!!!!!!!!


more evidence that wsex is cleared!!!!!!!!

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dom:
Wilheim,

Did they accept all his bets at @+120? YES
Did they give him a valid ticket for each bet? YES
Did he bet a bad line? NO
Did he bet the game after it started? NO
Is it his fault that they did not move the line? NO

Unless you can argue any of these, I can not see why anyone can say that they are in their good right to cancel his bets after the match was over..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Explain how a book would take $40,000 on a soccer match when they cater to N. American sports & has their highest limit posted as $20,000.

The man only bet soccer there twice & for a $1000 each time with a nickel at the original price & a nickel at an ADJUSTED price. He didn't like the game that much to bet 40x his biggest wager.

If you believe this crap then please let me sell you items.

 

[Java]

Wilheim-

If WSEX did not want the action, then why did they wait until after the game was over to cancel the wagers? That is the key point.

Okay, maybe they didn't WANT this situation. However, they ACCEPTED it by not cancelling the wagers. Someone has to explain why they didn't cancel ANY bets until after the game was over. It's not they started at 6:30 am and didn't finish until the game was over. They didn't start until they knew the outcome and they lost.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Umm JJ I doubt the game was rigged. I'd back off that point if I were you.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Java:
Wilheim-

If WSEX did not want the action, then why did they wait until after the game was over to cancel the wagers? That is the key point.

Okay, maybe they didn't WANT this situation. However, they ACCEPTED it by not cancelling the wagers. Someone has to explain why they didn't cancel ANY bets until after the game was over. It's not they started at 6:30 am and didn't finish until the game was over. They didn't start until they knew the outcome and they lost.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yet you leave out the fact that they tried to contact the man & couldn't & they were willing to work something out but not at the ridiculous level he was trying to pull.

NO ONE sits there & places that many bets in a row on the same thing. Lets be serious here. Who in their right mind sits here & does this:
Transaction Time Debit Credit Method
08/23/2003 04:19:33 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:19:50 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:20:09 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:20:20 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:20:36 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:20:50 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:22:06 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:22:17 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:22:28 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:22:41 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:22:57 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:23:07 $70.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:23:19 $60.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:23:32 $50.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:23:47 $40.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:23:58 $30.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:24:07 $20.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:24:19 $10.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:24:35 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:29:23 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:29:34 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:29:46 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:29:59 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:30:35 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:30:53 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:03 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:14 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:25 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:35 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:46 $70.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:31:57 $60.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:32:08 $50.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:32:18 $40.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:32:29 $30.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:32:43 $20.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:33:13 $10.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:33:23 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:35:52 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:36:03 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:36:14 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:36:28 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:36:49 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:37:00 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:37:13 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:37:28 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:41:08 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:42:12 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:45:42 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:45:53 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:46:06 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:46:17 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:46:30 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:46:42 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:46:53 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:47:04 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:49:24 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:49:35 $70.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:49:45 $60.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:50:02 $50.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:52:51 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:53:02 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:53:14 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:53:26 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:53:38 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:53:51 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:54:01 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:54:13 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:54:23 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:54:35 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:54:45 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:58:51 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:59:06 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:59:17 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:59:28 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:59:38 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 04:59:55 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:00:08 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:00:18 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:00:29 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:13:54 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:14:05 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:14:18 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:14:31 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:14:41 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:14:51 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:15:03 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:15:13 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:15:24 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:19:30 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:19:41 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:19:51 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:20:02 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:20:13 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:20:24 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:20:34 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:20:49 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:21:00 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:25:51 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:26:02 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:26:14 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:26:27 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:26:37 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:26:48 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:27:02 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:27:13 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:27:31 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:34:01 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:34:15 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:34:26 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:34:37 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:34:49 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:00 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:11 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:22 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:32 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:47 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:35:57 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:36:09 $70.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:36:20 $60.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:36:32 $50.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:40:15 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:40:26 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:40:37 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:40:49 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:41:00 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:41:11 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:41:22 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:41:32 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:41:42 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:51:21 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:51:35 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:51:46 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:51:58 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:52:10 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:52:21 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:52:33 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:52:44 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:52:55 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:56:36 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:56:48 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:56:59 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:57:10 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:57:23 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:57:35 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:57:45 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:57:56 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:58:07 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:58:32 $90.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:58:43 $80.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:58:54 $70.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:59:05 $60.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 05:59:15 $50.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:02:47 $500.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:02:59 $450.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:03:11 $400.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:03:22 $350.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:03:33 $300.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:03:45 $250.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:03:55 $200.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:04:07 $150.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:04:17 $100.00 Straight Wager Placed
08/23/2003 06:04:47 $10.00 Straight Wager Placed

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

EASY EDG HE HASNT BET ALL WEEK SO HE WAS PUTTING IN BETS AND WHEN THEY WERE ACCEPTED HE JUST ASSUMED WSEX INCREASED THE LIMITS HOW HARD IS THAT.I DONT KNOW ONE PERSON WHO READS HOW MUCH A SPORTSBOOK WILL ALLOW YOU TO BET MAYBE I AM A SMALL PLAYER BUT WHO READS THIS AND WHERE DO YOU FIND IT.HE KEPT PUNCHING AND YOU KEPT ACCEPTING CASE CLOSED END OF STORY

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Look at the pattern. He ayed $2700 in action & the line didn't move. He probably was shocked by this & went back for more. Then even after putting in some more, the line didn't change so he wasn't satisfied, waited a few minutes then started up again.

I mean look at the "intermissions" within those wagers. This man didn't like the game that much.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM:
EASY EDG HE HASNT BET ALL WEEK SO HE WAS PUTTING IN BETS AND WHEN THEY WERE ACCEPTED HE JUST ASSUMED WSEX INCREASED THE LIMITS HOW HARD IS THAT.I DONT KNOW ONE PERSON WHO READS HOW MUCH A SPORTSBOOK WILL ALLOW YOU TO BET MAYBE I AM A SMALL PLAYER BUT WHO READS THIS AND WHERE DO YOU FIND IT.HE KEPT PUNCHING AND YOU KEPT ACCEPTING CASE CLOSED END OF STORY<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wait so a book that clearly posts its highest limits as $20,000 on a NFL side would all of a sudden take double that on a soccer match no less.

Ok BTJ & you really didn't know what time the Celtic game tipped off.

 

[ChuckSims]

java, the people that are still saying WSEX should pay Revere14 40 dimes are using the premise that WSEX is a crooked sportsbook and Steve is a liar. I can tell you I have spoken to Steve in the past and he bends over backwards for the player. He says he cancelled the bet before the game started, thats it, end of story. When you are an honest person with integrity, sometimes you are naive to the fact that people are going to call you a liar unless you can prove your honesty. By not refunding the bet into the players account before the game started opened himself up to these negative posts.

 

[wilheim]

This is maybe the third time, what Revere did was not right. Have you ever thought about that. He put himself in this situation by emptying his balance, way out of character, on a soccer game because the software had a loophole that allowed him to get around the maximum wager of $500. Do you honestly think WSEX wanted any wagers larger than $500 on soccer especially? I can go into all kinds oa analogies but have about had it with this useless dialogue. Think what you want, it matters little what either one of us think anyway.

wil.

 

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY DICK HEAD EDG WHY DIDNT YOU NOTIFY ANYBODY ANYBODY SHRINK ANYBODY NO YOU KEPT IT IN HOUSE AND HOPED TO TAKE A SHOT.ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS SAY HEY SHRINK OR ANY MODERATOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO BET 40 GRAND ON A SOCCOR GAME WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IN CASE WE HAVE A DISPUTE,IF YOU DID THIS EDG REVERE WOULDNT HAVE A CASE BUT YOU THOUGHT WHAT THE F-CK LETS TAKE A SHOT AT THIS JR. WISE GUY

 

[Dom]

Everygamblersdream,

I don't have to explaine anything for Wsex.. They accepted the $40.000 on the match, so they do take that kind of stake on a soccer game. If they had just $500 as max limit on soccer, it should be on their website with the other limits. Or they should not allow customers to hit a game for more than $500..

It can never be the players fault, that they do not move the line or take the game of the board.

If you book a bet and do not cancel the bet BEFORE kickoff, you must pay the man, unless its a clearly bad line or the customer have broken any of the books written rules.

Unreal that people can argue that.. Must be many Wsex shills/workers here..

 

[Java]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EveryGamblersDream:
Java:

Please explain how you expect a book that caters to N. American sports & has a posted max limit of $20,000 on a NFL side would turn around & take almost $40,000 on a soccer match & the line never moved.

I know you & anyone for that matter can't.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Simple explanation: By not cancelling the wager before the match, they proved that they were willing to take it. Their actions speak for themselves.

I do believe that with a linesman on duty, the bet never would have gotten that high. However, once they knew of the bets, WSEX researched the line, the game and the player. Maybe they thought they had caught Moby Dick (biggest whale). The point is that WSEX made a mistake by not monitoring their lines and Revere took advantage in a legitimate way. WSEX compounded their mistake by not cancelling the line right away. WSEX make a third mistake by waiting until they knew they lost to cancel the bets.